North Texas Portal Entry Thread

[Cougar King]

1 hour ago, emmitt01 said:

@Cougar King has entered the portal.  
 

Rumor is he’s being offered the following in his NIL deal:  

- Funds to move out of mom’s basement 

- Lifting the ban on all UH message boards

- Expungement of his UNT academic record to remove the failing grades

Living rent-free in Emmitt's head since 2012.

[ADLER]

1 hour ago, emmitt01 said:

@Cougar King has entered the portal.  
 

Rumor is he’s being offered the following in his NIL deal:  

- Funds to move out of mom’s basement 

- Lifting the ban on all UH message boards

- Expungement of his UNT academic record to remove the failing grades

@Cougar King Is a complete and total ASSHAT

The Houston Cougar mascot is named SHASTA

SHASTA unscrambled spells ASSHAT

Coincidence, I think not.

[Danish43]

2 hours ago, jtm0097 said:

At the moment we have 30 plus open spots. That's kind of exciting. We have these guys on the staff with strong connections to the area. Let's see how it shakes out.

Best of luck to the guys leaving, we can find replacements in the portal and juco ranks. Notice a pattern with the guys leaving?

Ayo Adeyi (Transfered here from a D3 school)

Isaiah Johnson (Littrell signed him out of HS)

Logan Wilson ( 3rd time to transfer. He played at Kansas State and ULM before here.)

Stone Earle ( Transfer from ACU)

Ja'Mori Maclin (Transfer from Missouri)

Ethan Miner (Transfer from Arkansas State)

What position does Logan Wilson play? So I won't have to be asking for future player but these guy who are going to the portal are they still listed in meangreen sports?

[jtm0097]

36 minutes ago, Danish43 said:

What position does Logan Wilson play? So I won't have to be asking for future player but these guy who are going to the portal are they still listed in meangreen sports?

He was a Safety for us. Yes, still on the 2023 roster.

[Cougar King]

2 hours ago, ADLER said:

@Cougar King Is a complete and total ASSHAT

The Houston Cougar mascot is named SHASTA

SHASTA unscrambled spells ASSHAT

Coincidence, I think not.

Living rent-free in Adler's head since 2012.

[Rudy]

At this point, maybe we should just post who is still here. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Rudy

[wardly]

On 12/1/2023 at 6:52 PM, Danish43 said:

We all know that but we will have to work within this disadvantage. 

Point being that the portal can either benefit or damage a program. The NIL only benefits P4 programs with deep pockets and hurts the rest of us. You are correct in that everyone knows that but those of us with underfunded athletic programs and reluctant donors will have a hard time overcoming this disadvantage and I don't know how you work within it.

[Dentonborn79]

On 12/1/2023 at 10:33 AM, Jdawg48 said:

Guess we really are a stepping stone football program 

Exactly fir high-schoolers and twotime transfers

Edited December 3, 2023 by Dentonborn79

[3_n_out]

Stings to have Ayo and Maclin declare, but this will, unfortunately, be the norm. Only way we can limit the perennial exits is if we break through like UTSA. Even though they have kids transferring, they also get some good players in return. That’s why we can’t afford to throw seasons away. So, I’m hoping Caponi and this defense improves greatly , or else UNT will continue on the treadmill of mediocrity. 

[3_n_out]

I get it…the shock value of our guys leaving will be high at the moment, since all we’re going to hear are the kids that want to enter the portal. Hopefully, things will calm down once we start hearing/knowing who have transferred in. Being a highly ranked offense, not only in our conference, but NATIONALLY, should attract kids to mitigate the offensive loses…hopefully. Defensively, I just can’t believe whomever we replace/add can be any worse than what we had…right?

[Monkeypox]

I really don't view graduate transfers the same way as undergrads.

It's actually part of the problem of people viewing guys who've already transferred as some magical solution. If they have enough credits, nothing is going to stop them from transferring again.

And, as before, plenty of kids transferred back in the day of sitting out a year, so if you're truly in a situation you don't want to be in, I can absolutely see someone transferring a second time.

You have to recruit your own roster and fill your own roster every year. That's just how it is. College coaches have to get it done or pursue a new line of work.

[NT80]

I think we should go heavy into the portal.  Get Sophs and Jrs, experienced, more mature players that will use up their free undergrad transfer to come to NT.  Maybe focus on players wanting to come home again to the DFW area also.  Different ways to secure the roster from being so fluid each year.

[greenminer]

If he doesn't hire an agent, he can return.  But it sounds like he is done with UNT not matter what.

[Ian Campbell]

On 12/1/2023 at 1:29 PM, Shark84 said:

We have raised a generation of young people that choose to quit or leave when things don't go their way. If you have a problem with your spouse, just walk out and get a divorce. Boss gets on to you about not doing your job, just quit. Don't except a challenge and work harder, just leave. Not every case in the portal is like that but many are. Times change, but I don't see this a something positive. 

I believe this has certainly intensified in this generation and that the impact of things like TikTok on the need for even more instant gratification has not even been fully grasped yet. That said, you can find sociologists making the exact same arguments about the baby boomer generation and every generation since in various books. American culture has been trending this way for a long time (the book “Bowling Alone” about the rapid decline of Americans who join any extracurricular groups or participate/form any lasting association written in 1999 or 2000 is a great example of this).

I agree that this is adds to a mentality that can already be seen in marriages, the workplace, etc. I (some random dude who deeply loves his school and hometown) call it the “one-foot-in, one-foot-out mentality” but a Harvard grad recently gave a famous commencement speech and then wrote a book about it and called the same phenomena “infinite browsing mode.” See below- it’s really worth a watch.

I think Denton somehow has a worse culture of this mentality being home to two commuter schools. I often meet people who have lived in Denton 10 years and still don’t think of themselves as “Dentonites.” They came here for school, maybe even with the idea of transferring after their basics, planned to move to somewhere with mountains or something after graduating, never got the chance, but still don’t commit to the place because they see Denton as just a stopover. The transfer portal is just a further example of this trend and shows that it is still, well, trending. 

It does feel like it’s ruining college football and sometimes I think I could let football go because of it, but I guess at this point I’m just trying to prove a point and fight the “one-foot-in, one-foot-out mentality.” I’m a lurker, but I’m 27 and have never missed a home UNT football game in my life. I live in Wichita, KS now and make the 5 hour drive. Some days it’s just inertia, but as others have said, players come and go, but we will be here for the school. I hope this whole portal/NIL thing settles down someday. 
 

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Ian Campbell

[meangreenfaninno]

2 minutes ago, Ian Campbell said:

I think Denton somehow has a worse culture of this mentality being home to two commuter schools. I often meet people who have lived in Denton 10 years and still don’t think of themselves as “Dentonites.” They came here from school, planned to move to somewhere with mountains or something, never got the chance, but still don’t commit to the place because they see Denton as just a stopover. The transfer portal is just a further example of this trend and shows that it is still, well, trending. 

Great observation and 100% accurate.

[keith]

14 hours ago, NT80 said:

I think we should go heavy into the portal.  Get Sophs and Jrs, experienced, more mature players that will use up their free undergrad transfer to come to NT.  Maybe focus on players wanting to come home again to the DFW area also.  Different ways to secure the roster from being so fluid each year.

What happens when we want to encourage these players to “explore other opportunities?”

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, keith said:

What happens when we want to encourage these players to “explore other opportunities?”

Since scholarships are year to year they could just tell the player they're not planning on renewing. However it's more likely they let the player know that their plans are not including them and they urge them to look elsewhere for another opportunity.  Then again if they take Deion's approach they just tell the player you're cut, clear out your locker

[MeanGreenZen]

Ya’ll realize that all of our best players this season were guys we got from the transfer portal.

The portal shall taketh away, but it will certainly also giveth. 

[MeanGreenZen]

The SEC and the Big 12 might pick off some of our players, but we don’t have to play in the SEC or the Big 12.

We play against schools like UTSA, UAB and Rice. We just have to beat these schools, who are also getting their roster picked apart by the P4, to have a successful season. 

And we can steal players from the Sun Belt, CUSA and Lone Star Conference, etc. 

The game has changed, but it is still a game. We just have to win it. 

And one other thing, the transfer portal is getting all the attention, but we need to be playing Moneyball. Where are the undervalued assets?

If everyone else is zigging into the transfer portal, it might be smarter to zag into JUCO or high school recruits to find immediate impact players. At some point, the transfer portal has to become too picked over. 

This is Eric Morris’ job to figure out. He went 5-7 this year, which is unacceptable to me. 

I expect this team to make a bowl game every year, compete for the conference championship most seasons and sometimes peak as a conference champion that cracks the Top 25. 

I still believe that Eric Morris can accomplish this. 

[Green with Envy]

2 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Ya’ll realize that all of our best players this season were guys we got from the transfer portal.

The portal shall taketh away, but it will certainly also giveth. 

While true, holding on to top talent while acquiring more is what is going to elevate us to a top program.  
 

if the roster is a constant revolving door, we’ll continue to hover in mediocrity. 
 

I don’t know about you, but I’m done with .500 ball. 

[greenminer]

14 minutes ago, Green with Envy said:

While true, holding on to top talent while acquiring more is what is going to elevate us to a top program.  
 

if the roster is a constant revolving door, we’ll continue to hover in mediocrity. 
 

I don’t know about you, but I’m done with .500 ball. 

I think when this is all said and done, most of our peers will see about the same turnover ratios.

Differences, of course, when you see the beginning or end of a coaching staff tenure.

[rcade]

Coming here and finding a portal entry thread 10 PAGES LONG reminded me of a joke.

Man goes to the doctor for test results.

Doctor says, "I've got good news and bad news. The good news is you have one day to live."

Man says, "Then what's the bad news?"

"I forgot to tell you yesterday."

[peanuts104]

35 minutes ago, rcade said:

Coming here and finding a portal entry thread 10 PAGES LONG reminded me of a joke.

Man goes to the doctor for test results.

Doctor says, "I've got good news and bad news. The good news is you have one day to live."

Man says, "Then what's the bad news?"

"I forgot to tell you yesterday."

Funny joke, but very premature. Yesterday is like 2 months from now. Stop being an alarmist.

[rcade]

9 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

Funny joke, but very premature. Yesterday is like 2 months from now. Stop being an alarmist.

Every fan of a G5 school is looking at players entering the portal with alarm.

The new normal for most of college football is an offseason that begins with chaos and misery.

I'm not going to pretend this is fun. 1,000-yard rushers and 1,000-yard receivers don't grow on trees.

[peanuts104]

48 minutes ago, rcade said:

Every fan of a G5 school is looking at players entering the portal with alarm.

The new normal for most of college football is an offseason that begins with chaos and misery.

I'm not going to pretend this is fun. 1,000-yard rushers and 1,000-yard receivers don't grow on trees.

We'll see. We havan't lost Adaway yet, and I think he's better than Adeyi. As for the receiver, replaceable in this system. I'm not saying I like it, but it is the reality. A lot of this coaching staff is going to be judged for their offseason gains and losses. No way to know until we hit next year. If it's a shitshow, it's a shitshow.