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It’s time for change. I have always been the biggest Seth cheerleader since December 2015. But after seven year I believe it is more than enough of a sample size to pull the trigger. Disclaimer I don't think Wren will put that trigger until after the last game. But I think it has to and will be done after the season. The stats below are enough to old yeller Seth. Record in non-conference games 12-19 Record in post season 0-6 Combine that with the lack of energy, enthusiasm and charisma. It’s a recipe for disaster. Not to mention the difficulties he has had finding a DC and QB to off the most important positions on a football team. Now I do think Phil Bennett is one of the best DC in the country. I think this defense is just extremely young. Hell, this team as a whole is extremely young. I believe we have between 5 and 7 seniors starting each week. When you have teams like SMU and UTSA starting 18 plus. I think that makes a huge difference. I blame that on Seth roster management. The lack of aggression in the beginning of the portal days. To now you rarely see this team bring in an immediate impact starter that lacks multiple years of eligibility left. I think this staff and roster is the best we have seen at North Texas since probably 2013. But I think they need a new voice and captain leading the ship. I believe the team is as tired of hearing the same "at the end of the day" BS as the fans are. At the END OF THE DAY Seth Littrell teams have falling short in every game that matters. Dickey and Dodge had excuses. McCarthy had health issues. Seth has zero excuses. He has had more resources, budget and facilities than any other coach in CUSA since the day he arrived. And he hasn't converted that into success on the field. Now what will the post Seth era look like. I look at Wren most successful hires so far. Rodney Delong and Grant McCasland. What do they have in common? Head coaching experience, local ties, energy and winning record at multiple records. I don't want to hear that UNT is just a basketball school. We have all the resources to be able to be successful at both. The North Texas program has improved in many aspects in the last 7 years. It just time for change to take the program to the next level. GMG

Our program is in better shape than when Littrell took over.

Texas roots aren't essential. Gary Patterson was 38 before he lived in Texas. Matt Rhule didn't live in Texas until he was hired at Baylor. Mack Brown won a national title and first gig in Texas was at UT. Hire good coaches, give them what the need to the extent of your checkbook and focus less on clicking off a magic box on a checklist.

Seth Henigan from some place called Denton in Texas is a stud. Last year wasn't the man for much of the season but 25 TD's to 8 picks. This year 6 TD's to 0 picks. Super dangerous running the ball. Either doesn't want to run or the coaches don't want him to run but if the pocket collapses and there is a hole, he can eat you up. They've got some receivers who can break away but watch out for Cade Prieskorn their 6'5" TE he's fast for his size. One of his TD's he wasn't the target but the ball was deflected at the line of scrimmage and he kicked it in gear like a great center fielder and hauled it in for a TD. Defensively they aren't great but if you get in a position where you can't do something and they can sellout to stop, they can be dangerous. If you can balance run/pass throwing short/long you can score on them. One of our TD's they sold out to stop the run and fairly short route and quick throw went to the house. We milked the clock with 32 rushes vs 34 pass attempts and had a shot at winning with under two minutes until an OL injury caused a complete meltdown of back to back false starts and then a wild snap that killed any hope. If you can balance the attack and pressure the secondary they can be beaten.

Not UNT related but this deserves recognition. Every single LA Tech player handwrote a letter to the family of Clemson player, Bryan Bresee, after his 15-year-old sister passed away of medulloblastoma (brain cancer). I'll let y'all read the rest for yourselves. Thank you, LA Tech for the gesture and representing C-USA with class. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/09/18/dabo-swinney-lousiana-tech-letters-bresee-family/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twi

I too have finally arrived at this point after yesterday. It’s over.

Uh how about the fan base. I traveled to Vegas and spent over a grand on flight, hotel, food ect and I left this game about 7 min early. I am fed up i am a diehard. Imagine the average fan. If you want to nuke your fan base, feel free to keep him on

This coaching staff's best play call for 4 and less than a yard is to snap the ball 7 yards deep and run a dive with a QB who doesn't read the end to run an option off of it! Just a 7yd straight dive! Then, just keep repeating the play hoping that it eventually works!

Littrell has been waiting for this moment. The moment to put it all together. He runs the table. 10-2. Wins the conf championship game in front of 32,000 at Apogee to get to 11-2 and then the bowl game vs a 7-5 SEC team to get to 13-2 and finishes the season #20 in the nation. We all owe him an apology and a big fat extension.

The basketball forum needs to go back on top again.

I don't know how they can keep him around any longer, watch the attendance at Apogee may be a ghost town by the end of the season.

The main difference between UNT and teams like UNLV, UTSA and SMU is the quality and amount of portal players coming from high level FBS programs. Most here will agree, Seth was very late to the game in terms of setting the stage for being a portal destination. Sonny figured this out sooner than most. But so did Traylor and Arroyo. Signing lower level portal transfers is not going to cut it against transfers from Alabama, Arkansas, Ole MIss, Oklahoma and Texas. The lack of bringing in a quality QB other than Mason Fine is also a huge red flag. Again, if this was year 2-3 maybe you swallow your pride and hope for better.

I'd just like to say to any brave Alumni Association members lurking on GMG... Thank you for the tailgate you put on prior to the UNLV game! I have complained frequently in the past about a lack of organization at away games for our fans. The event today was exactly the sort of camaraderie and organization that our fanbase needs to attract people to away gamedays. Great food, great drinks (based on my current headache I probably over did it on them), and it was great to shake hands and speak with other Mean Green faithful. IMHO the price of entry was a bargain for 2.5hrs of food and drinks. Don't let our Athletic and University leadership failures in regards to football kill what you're attempting to start in regards to the events! Keep it up, you won today for most of us fans who spent their time and money to meet the team in Las Vegas. Thank you!

Jews learn by age 13 that we have a better chance at owning a team than playing for one.

Jaelon Darden, Jalen Guyton, Rico Bussey, Jeff Wilson, and a whoooooolleee lot of other folks beg to differ

He cares. it has been pretty well documented he will not fire in the season. not sure what he is supposed to come out and say at this point. "fans hang on just a few more weeks its almost over"? From every name I have heard I can almost guarantee that the next head coach will have head coaching experience

Everyone tried to downplay losing the twins and Dion Novil and that turned out to be disastrous. We have not been recruiting at a high level and everyone knows it

The time is now

North Texas: Both the Mean Green and head coach Seth Littrell have a lot of respect for each other, which is why this long-term relationship might end gracefully. UNT was whipped by a moribund UNLV program last weekend, and it’s unlikely they’ll create the bounce-back season the end of 2021 seemed to hint at. Now a significant step behind C-USA/American transition programs like UTSA and UAB, this marriage is likely over. If UNT moved now, they’d only owe Littrell around $1.9 million, although that number could go down if they fired him at season’s end or later. UNT is aspiring to Houston-levels as they enter the American, and this will be a sought-after job. LINK: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-football-hot-seat-watch-picking-up-pieces-at-arizona-state-nebraska-whos-next

How much confidence would you have if you were given 2nd team reps all off-season and then saw no opportunity to play even when the starter is clearly incapable of game to game (or year to year) progression. And that’s not just a SL issue, Mac did the same.

Move Aune to the defensive side of the ball. I watch him shut down an offense every single game.

He lost a lot of talent from last year. A lot…that was not even close to being replaced.

Wrong. Fans need hope. I think Nebraska fans are happy, even with the OU beatdown today, just knowing there will be a change coming.

Of course there is. It's a statement decision. There's not ANYTHING to gain by keeping him on for no reason at all.

I wonder if they got Brett Favre to help find the funds.

SMU lost by a TD to a middle of the road Big 10 school. UTSA lost by 20, but they played Texas very close for most of the game. Tech lost by 14 to a top 25 NC State. We lost by 30 to a 2-10 Mountain West team.

It's meh. WRs are constantly breaking down their own route in anticipation of a bad throw. They can't run routes with confidence because the ball is rarely on time and on target. He spot throws and he doesn't throw it to that spot until he sees his WRs numbers. That's not good football. If he could hit these guys in stride and on time they would be making huge plays. Yesterday alone we had 3 missed TD plays off completed passes alone due to ball placement. No telling how many just missed throws and things he (or I) didn't see. Celebrating 55.1+ passing % is a true microcosm of our entire athletic department.

Any sign I'm tempted to make will get me escorted out of Apogee.

Tee it low and hand it off slow

Conversely Mason would’ve been a walk-on running scout team at a P5 Oklahoma school if it weren’t for Seth and nobody would’ve known his name. Also, old Grey Goose should’ve been on his hands and knees thanking Todd Dodge’s last recruiting class and John Skladany for him having any success at all in Denton.

He will likely finish no higher than third in his division in what you deem an inferior conference but think he can contend in a superior conference?????

I honestly don’t understand Littrell’s desire to keep playing Aune. I read after spring ball Aune made a huge jump. Then I read during summer training how his accuracy improved. Then I watch the games and wonder when it will show up in an actual game??? Other teams QB’s we have played against haven’t completed every pass. But when they do it usually is in stride and chest high. I am tired of watching our receivers slow down for a ball that they do catch. Or watching the ball skip at their feet or sail over their heads. Aune is great at handing off to our good running backs. Any of the other QB’s should be able to do that. We need someone that can throw accurately as well.

7. maybe line the qb up under the center when you are less than a yard from the end zone. We have good center and a big qb and everyone will expect the shotgun with the handoff to the running back. They will never see the qb sneak up the middle.

Kevin Fralicks and his team are awesome! That NTAA really is a treat. Love the Pavilion, love the away tailgates.

He threw 2 INT in a blowout loss and completed less than 60% of his throws. They weren’t playing a P5 team in a packed stadium. They were playing UNLV a program that hadn’t been to a bowl since 2014. A UNLV with a fanbase starving for 6 win season.

When hell freezes over When a snowball runs through hell When I hit the mega millions When Trump admits he lost the election When Jerry Jones sells the Cowboys

No kid worth a damn is gonna sign with UNT if it’s not done soon!

My wife just jokingly said to me, “No wonder your becoming a grumpy old man. You put yourself through this every year.”

FIRE SETH LITTRELL!!!!!!

Fire him. WB, put your hand down your pants and grab your balls. Time to do something. Today.

Mason's coach was friends with Seth and told him about him. Harrell visited and offered him. That being said, Littrell owes his entire HC career to those two people. Only reason he had any success here worth mentioning

Why would you doubt that? Last season was the exception and not the rule since Mac has been here. The two seasons prior we played at a much faster pace…last year we just had a roster that didn’t lend itself to getting up and down.

please someone listen to it and tell me what he said. I just cant stand to even listen to him anymore

Happy Birthday Legend! Can't wait for the Unity Plaza to be completed... but I still hope to see a Mean Joe-sized statue of this man somewhere at Apogee soon.