OL Smallwood hits the portal

97and03 · November 26, 2023

Jdawg48 · November 26, 2023

I assume we hear a few other names enter over the next few weeks?

cousin oliver · November 26, 2023

Has Smallwood played for us or is this just more of a decision on his part to get more PT? Honestly no idea.

jtm0097 · November 26, 2023

17 minutes ago, cousin oliver said:

Has Smallwood played for us or is this just more of a decision on his part to get more PT? Honestly no idea.

No, never in the two deep. Seemed like a good kid, but he might need to go FCS or D2 for playing time.

Marty · November 26, 2023

Best of luck to him.

greenminer · November 26, 2023

1 hour ago, cousin oliver said:

Has Smallwood played for us or is this just more of a decision on his part to get more PT?

Plot twist: what if it is not his decision?

If I'm Morris, i'm revamping the roster now. Looking at players that have not contributed. Players that look like they aren't developing into contributors. You've (coaches) got a full year with the portal now, so everything is on the table.

I don't think we'll see anything on Deion/Colorado's level, though.

Edited November 26, 2023 by greenminer

p_phelps · November 27, 2023

Morris is going to clean off this roster.. expect 15,-20 more to hit the portal

Matt from A700 · November 27, 2023

At least he didn't say to #RespectHisDecision.

MeanGreen22 · November 27, 2023

37 minutes ago, p_phelps said:

Morris is going to clean off this roster.. expect 15,-20 more to hit the portal

Think we’re about to see a ton of new faces on the defensive side of the ball. If they’re sticking with 3-3-5, gotta get more athletic.

UNTLifer · November 27, 2023

I am surprised they didn’t try him at DT. He played there in HS and was very good. Then again, maybe they did and it didn’t work out.

Venson · November 27, 2023

Is he the guy that was from Denison that committed to us, then backed out because he was getting a little love, and then committed again because he found out no one else was really going to give him a scholly at this level?

greenminer · November 27, 2023

Revamping this defense for 2024. This is where a serious NIL budget can come in handy.

Green Crazy · November 27, 2023

Christian Lee is gone too apparently.

Danish43 · November 27, 2023

4 hours ago, greenminer said:

Plot twist: what if it is not his decision?

If I'm Morris, i'm revamping the roster now. Looking at players that have not contributed. Players that look like they aren't developing into contributors. You've (coaches) got a full year with the portal now, so everything is on the table.

I don't think we'll see anything on Deion/Colorado's level, though.

When Coach Morris came down to San Antonio to speak at the Monday's Quarterback Club he did mentioned that he felt certain player were not pulling there fair share and tho he hates to make the cuts that he will probably have to make them.
My question is can an athletic department just pull a scholarship if they feel a player/athlete is not playing up to par?

Danish43 · November 27, 2023

46 minutes ago, Green Crazy said:

Christian Lee is gone too apparently.

Who was Christian Lee? What is the name of that recruiting site that I can see his offer list?

ScreamingEaglesFan · November 27, 2023

2 hours ago, Danish43 said:

When Coach Morris came down to San Antonio to speak at the Monday's Quarterback Club he did mentioned that he felt certain player were not pulling there fair share and tho he hates to make the cuts that he will probably have to make them.
My question is can an athletic department just pull a scholarship if they feel a player/athlete is not playing up to par?

My understanding is that even when we offer someone a full ride the scholarships are truly only for a year and are basically just not renewed in these type situations.

Coach_1976 · November 27, 2023

Christian Lee is number 84. Played TE so if he leaves completely understanding.

For UNT scholarships for football are 1 year contracts. Coaches/ player meetings you may see a mass leaving.

If you coaches helping players they will be leaving on good terms..

greenminer · November 27, 2023

11 hours ago, Danish43 said:

When Coach Morris came down to San Antonio to speak at the Monday's Quarterback Club he did mentioned that he felt certain player were not pulling there fair share and tho he hates to make the cuts that he will probably have to make them.
My question is can an athletic department just pull a scholarship if they feel a player/athlete is not playing up to par?

If what the board has been saying is true, Scholarships are annual. There’s a handshake agreement upon coming in that you will get it renewed every year until you finish, but it can be canceled/not renewed if the coaches choose to do so.

El Paso Eagle · November 27, 2023

13 minutes ago, greenminer said:

If what the board has been saying is true, Scholarships are annual. There’s a handshake agreement upon coming in that you will get it renewed every year until you finish, but it can be canceled/not renewed if the coaches choose to do so.

Before last year, only the P5 conferences had the "rule" that once you signed, it was good for the entire four years. This was not in place at any G5 or FCS, but as you mentioned, a general "handshake agreement" was, in most cases, honored. With P5s, there were always those who were encouraged to look elsewhere. Still, starting last year, highlighted by Sanders at Colorado, it became very open when the coach announced he would and did cut players, so even though the rule is still in place, it does not seem to be enforced any longer.

GrandGreen · November 28, 2023

13 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Before last year, only the P5 conferences had the "rule" that once you signed, it was good for the entire four years. This was not in place at any G5 or FCS, but as you mentioned, a general "handshake agreement" was, in most cases, honored. With P5s, there were always those who were encouraged to look elsewhere. Still, starting last year, highlighted by Sanders at Colorado, it became very open when the coach announced he would and did cut players, so even though the rule is still in place, it does not seem to be enforced any longer.

P5 has no different rules than g5. P5 was an unofficial term used to denote those conferences that would be eligibility in the major bowl games. There is no difference in D1 rules based on conference affiliation.

All athletic scholarships are for one year and have been for a long time.

Schools generally reoffered ships on an annual basis because of the fear that not doing so would destroy their recruiting. Also players where assured that the ship would be renewed in the recruiting process.

In today's environment, NIL and frequent transfers, a lot of the trust that used to exist between players and schools has been lost. Agreements (non-binding) between players and coaches may be entered into, but once those coaches are gone; so is the agreement.

El Paso Eagle · November 28, 2023

Here is one example of the rule. There are many more if you google it

https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/

VideoEagle · November 28, 2023

The NCAA started allowing, but not requiring, multiyear scholarships in 2012. A few years later, the autonomous conferences - Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big XII, plus Notre Dame - agreed to have multiyear scholarships for football. One website, Informedathlete.com, started calling this a rule and this has been widely quoted by other websites. But there wasn't an enforcement mechanism ever implemented - if a school chose to ignore the agreement, there was never any penalty. It was never an NCAA rule. And it appears there were always multiple exceptions to it that individual conferences and even schools had. Generally, if there was a change in head coach players that didn't fit the new scheme were encouraged (and usually helped) to move on and free up the scholarships for players that fit the new scheme.

Edited November 28, 2023 by VideoEagle

GrandGreen · November 28, 2023

11 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Here is one example of the rule. There are many more if you google it

https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/

4 hours ago, VideoEagle said:

The NCAA started allowing, but not requiring, multiyear scholarships in 2012. A few years later, the autonomous conferences - Pac 12, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big XII, plus Notre Dame - agreed to have multiyear scholarships for football. One website, Informedathlete.com, started calling this a rule and this has been widely quoted by other websites. But there wasn't an enforcement mechanism ever implemented - if a school chose to ignore the agreement, there was never any penalty. It was never an NCAA rule. And it appears there were always multiple exceptions to it that individual conferences and even schools had. Generally, if there was a change in head coach players that didn't fit the new scheme were encouraged (and usually helped) to move on and free up the scholarships for players that fit the new scheme.

Thanks, was not aware of this; I knew individual conferences had rules; but not a group of conferences.

However, is it a rule if no one has to follow it?

El Paso Eagle · November 28, 2023

1 hour ago, GrandGreen said:

Thanks, was not aware of this; I knew individual conferences had rules; but not a group of conferences.

However, is it a rule if no one has to follow it?

Deion blew this out of the water. I guess the schools are now thinking that if the players can walk away, we should be able to move on if we choose to.