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I am just trying to stop this discussion before it goes any further... NO HIGH SCHOOL COACHES... PLEASE GOD NO.... 

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Here are a few who got their start at the HS level..... Nate Oats - Currently at Alabama, had them at number 1 in the country for a long time this season Selections from this article in 2017

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For those of you hating on Lubbock, you do realize they have fan support and $’s that we could only dream about, right?

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On 4/4/2023 at 8:17 PM, El Paso Eagle said:

I understand in basketball there are no P5's, but man looking at Tech's facilities magnifies the disparity between the "Power" conferences and the G5's. Hard to turn that down. It will be interesting to see how Ross puts his staff together.

Tech is nothing compared to the KU's, UNC's, and UCLA's... If a redneck school like Tech can have facilities like that in the middle of nowhere, imagine what the big brother schools look like 

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15 minutes ago, rojomojo said:

Tech is nothing compared to the KU's, UNC's, and UCLA's... If a redneck school like Tech can have facilities like that in the middle of nowhere, imagine what the big brother schools look like 

I can see why u may think that, but that Tech basketball facility is off the charts nice.  Believe me they threw some big oil dollars at that biatch.

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1 hour ago, rojomojo said:

Tech is nothing compared to the KU's, UNC's, and UCLA's... If a redneck school like Tech can have facilities like that in the middle of nowhere, imagine what the big brother schools look like 

There is a lot, and I mean a lot, of oil and gas money at Tech. 

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I am just trying to stop this discussion before it goes any further... NO HIGH SCHOOL COACHES... PLEASE GOD NO.... 

Here are a few who got their start at the HS level.....

Nate Oats - Currently at Alabama, had them at number 1 in the country for a long time this season

Selections from this article in 2017: https://www.maxpreps.com/news/SuBASnpx6UyIEI7WElL_IQ/ncaa-tournament-2017-tourney-coaches-who-also-coached-high-school-teams.htm

Mark Few - Gonzaga 
Few took Creswell (Ore.) to the state title game as a senior and then ended up working there as an assistant starting in 1983. He also spent time assisting at Sheldon (Eugene, Ore.) in 1988 while attending the University of Oregon.

Roy Williams - North Carolina 
Williams knows more than basketball. While at Charles D. Owen (Black Mountain, N.C.) from 1973-78, Williams coached boys basketball, golf and even freshman football. He was even the athletic director for two years, according to USA Today. Williams is in the Owen High Hall of Fame.

Richard Pitino, Minnesota (Not Papa Pitino at St. Johns)
The son of legend Rick Pitino wasn't good enough to make the roster at Providence College in Rhode Island. So he worked as the team manager and also assisted with the high school program at St. Andrew's (Barrington, R.I.) for two years. According to the Syracuse Post-Standard, he had met the St. Andrew's coach at a camp the year before, and once he settled in at Providence, he picked up the unpaid assistant position.

Mike Brey, Notre Dame (until this season)
Brey stayed at his alma mater and learned under the legendary Morgan Wootten before he moved on to Duke. He spent five seasons at DeMatha (Hyattsville, Md.) starting in 1982, working as the JV head coach and varsity assistant. In his five years helping on the bench, DeMatha went 139-22.

Mick Cronin, Cincinnati (now at UCLA)
Cronin was the JV coach at Woodward (Cincinnati) from 1991-96. He began working with the program when he was a freshman at Cincinnati, as a knee injury derailed his playing career in high school. His father Hep Cronin was a high school coach in the Cincinnati area who won more than 400 games.

Frank Martin, South Carolina (now at UMASS - we lost to his K-State team under JJ, I was there!)
Martin had an established high school coaching career in the Miami area, and according to an ESPN story, he worked as a nighttime bouncer at clubs, took classes during the day and coached in the afternoon. His stops included JV head coach at Miami (Fla.), then head coaching stops at North Miami (Fla.) (1993-95), back at Miami (1995-98) and then Booker T. Washington (Miami) (1999-2000). His time at Miami High included three state titles (last in 1998), though one was stripped for violations.

John Beilein, Michigan (coached the Cavs in the NBA and now a Scout for the Pistons)
Beilein coached three years at Newfane (N.Y.), two as the head coach. He was also a history teacher before moving on to the junior college ranks. His tenure there lasted from 1975 to 1978.

Greg Gard, Wisconsin (don't like him but here he is)
Gard's story of how he got into coaching basketball is one of right place, right time. He had been cut from his college baseball team and was looking for jobs in the local weekly newspaper when he found an ad looking for a JV basketball coach at Southwestern (Hazel Green, Wis.), according to this ESPN article. Gard got the job in 1990 and stayed at Southwestern for three years before adding on one more year of high school experience as an assistant at Platteville (Wis.) for the 1993-94 season.

Tom Izzo, Michigan State (THE MAN!)
Izzo coached the 1977-78 season at Ishpeming (Mich.) and turned around a losing team. The Hematites went 16-7 that year and took a league title under the 22-year-old Izzo, who rankled some parents by instituting two-a-day practices.

Dan Hurley, Rhode Island (THE GUY THAT JUST WON THE THING!)
The son of the Hall of Fame legend Bob Hurley spent a season as an assistant with his father at his alma mater, St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.). Then he set off on his own path and started a dynasty at St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, N.J.), losing just 21 games in nine seasons.

Bruce Weber, Kansas State (dude was good at K-State, got the short end there)
Weber was a volunteer assistant at Madison University (Milwaukee) and then was a varsity assistant at Marquette University (Milwaukee) according to his Kansas State bio. His bio from Southern Illinois states that he was a head coach from 1975-79 at Marquette University High.

Chris Mack, Xavier (hosed at Louisville)
Mack was a very successful coach in Cincinnati in the girls' ranks. He was the JV coach at McAuley (Cincinnati) for two years, leading the squad at the all-girls school beginning in 1993. In 1995 he moved on to become the head coach at Mount Notre Dame (Cincinnati), and a year later he was named the Cincinnati Post's Coach of the Year. According to CBS Sports, Mount Notre Dame was 7-14 when he showed up and immediately moved to 19-4 in his first season.

Kevin Keatts, UNC Wilmington (no longer there)
Keatts didn't exactly work in a traditional high school setup, and his success was hardly traditional, either. In two stints from 1999-2001 and 2003-11 at Hargrave Military Academy (Chatham, Va.), he won two national prep championships and finished second three other times. Six different times his team finished with one or zero losses, and nine of his former players reached the NBA during a tenure that saw him go 262-17. He was an assistant at Hargrave for two years before taking over, and his break in between stints was while he was an assistant coach at Marshall. His success there earned him an assistant's job at Louisville with Rick Pitino.

Pat Kelsey, Winthrop (Just signed a GM-style extension at COC)
Kelsey began his coaching career at his prep alma mater, Elder (Cincinnati, Ohio), from 1998-2001 as an assistant coach under former Xavier guard Joe Schoenfeld.

Tim Cluess, Iona (honestly clueless as to where is now but here's tis)
Cluess coached at St. Mary's (Manhasset, N.Y.) from 1991-2005, becoming a local legend. His record was 264-78 (.772 winning percentage) and St. Mary’s won a record eight consecutive Nassau-Suffolk Catholic High School Athletic Association titles from 1998-2005. His final season saw the Gaels go 25-1 and spend considerable time ranked No. 1 in the country.

Paul Weir, New Mexico State (Dr. Weir now - AD at ENMU)
Weir did his prep work north of the border. He coached Don Bosco Catholic High in Toronto to a 41-32 mark over from 1999 through 2003.

T.J. Otzelberger - UNLV
Otzelberger got his assistant coaching start at Catholic Central (Burlington, Wis.), reaching the head coach and athletic director positions in 2003. According to the Journal Times of Racine, he was selling telephone equipment and earning his Master's degree in business when his old high school coach called and asked him to come help at a practice. Otzelberger got hooked and led the JV team for two years before moving up to the varsity spot.

LeVelle Moton, North Carolina Central 
Moton got his first coaching job in his home city, beginning his coaching career at Sanderson (Raleigh, N.C.) in 2004. He took a struggling program back to respectability, including a campaign that set the school record for wins. In three years he went 59-25, won back-to-back titles in the CAP 7 Tournament and reached the final four in the NCHSAA Eastern Region.

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Hard to hate on the HS guys - every college/pro guy who's been around a minute knows that some of the best coaches in the game are at the high school level.  There are many reasons guys go the high school route to start out with or stay there, doesn't speak to a lack of coaching ability or desire.

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On 4/5/2023 at 10:40 AM, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Shaw and Wilson should be staying. Both are the reason why we were so successful in the TBT, they are very bright young minds 

Shaw was our Director Of Operations....and Wilson was a GA, right??

Maybe "Boss" Hodge thinks Shaw is ready to move up to Assistant....and Wilson will be the new Dir. Of Ops. 

I like both of them....

 

 

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13 minutes ago, TreeFiddy said:

Give Hodge the funds to hire Coach Reem as his associate head coach (prolly take ~$350k) and then he can hire whatever HS head coaches as assistants he wants to fill out the staff. 

Seems like 350k a tad hugh for assistant but if he’s good I could get behind it.  Especially if he can recruit I’d imagine that woild be money well spent.

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9 hours ago, SUMG said:

Shaw was our Director Of Operations....and Wilson was a GA, right??

Maybe "Boss" Hodge thinks Shaw is ready to move up to Assistant....and Wilson will be the new Dir. Of Ops. 

I like both of them....

 

 

I was with them for all of Bleed Green, in the film room as well, they are workhorses. McCasland and Hodge rubbed off on them so much because Bleed Green was so well prepared. I think Shaw will get a HC job in the next 5-10 years, I hope he gets promoted up.

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On 4/11/2023 at 11:26 AM, 2020 Sucks said:

I’d love to see Hodge reach into the D2 world and try to grab Johnny Estelle from TAMU-Kingsville.  He’d be a great addition to our staff!

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Boom!  Called it!!!  #ballknower

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