Womens Basketball, UNT 61 - OU 57 - final

[Dr. Seuss]

I think he is saying that maybe RV's hires aren't as bad as originally thought.

His hires in MBB: Jones-Good, Benford-Bad

WBB: Stevens-bad, Aston-good, Petersen-bad, Mitchell-so far so good

FB: Dodge-bad, McCarney-bad/good/bad

He seems to be .500 or just below. This next football hire could be the one that puts him above .500. I don't care if he is fired or not. I think the co-OC deal showed a complete lack of judgment but I can't write him off on one boneheaded mistake. If that were the case, I would've wanted him gone for letting coach out the remainder of 2006 after he was fired. That was probably the worst mistake he has ever made here in my eyes and he has been smart enough to not let it happen again.

How can you base a hire off of one win?  That's my point.  It's extremely too irrational to even bring Mitchell in the conversation, that's what RV would do.  He makes irrational decisions.  Perfect example, giving an extension to a 3rd year HC after his first winning season in 3 years.  Look what UNLV did, of course they didn't win their bowl game but their HC had another losing season and was fired after his forth season.  That's what should have happened to Mac, if we had any press like SMU or TCU, he would have been fired. 

[TIgreen01]

Awesome!  Congrats to the ladies!  

[Side Show Joe]

Congratulations Ladies and coach Jalie!

 

[KRAM1]

Newy Scruggs just mentioned the ladies win on his 10:00 pm Channel 5 sports cast.  Only college game mentioned.  Way to go ladies!  Great win....great positive PR for the program.  Great job!  

[drex]

This is not last year's team.  They can shoot, move the ball and play defense.  I never thought they had any glitches all game.

[Cr1028]

How can you base a hire off of one win?  That's my point.  It's extremely too irrational to even bring Mitchell in the conversation, that's what RV would do.  He makes irrational decisions.  Perfect example, giving an extension to a 3rd year HC after his first winning season in 3 years.  Look what UNLV did, of course they didn't win their bowl game but their HC had another losing season and was fired after his forth season.  That's what should have happened to Mac, if we had any press like SMU or TCU, he would have been fired. 

Limited sample size. In 3 games, she has already won 2. Peterson didn't reach 2 wins last year until December 14th and he only won 1 nonconference game last year which she has already surpassed. I'm not saying she is going to be great or even good but I will say that through three games, she seems to be much better than the guy she replaced. Therefore the statement, "so far so good".

[GRN-WHT]

Get your billboard mother fffrs 

It's one ffffffffin win. How'd that one bowl win in Mac's tenure work out for you and your buddies?

 she seems to be much better than the guy she replaced. 

Ah, yes. The North Texas standard. 

[Cr1028]

Ah, yes. The North Texas standard. 

You must've been the kid that pressed the reset button every time you were losing at a video game. 

[Dr. Seuss]

Limited sample size. In 3 games, she has already won 2. Peterson didn't reach 2 wins last year until December 14th and he only won 1 nonconference game last year which she has already surpassed. I'm not saying she is going to be great or even good but I will say that through three games, she seems to be much better than the guy she replaced. Therefore the statement, "so far so good".

 Again, this is another perfect example of irrational decision making.  Why are we comparing our most recent hire with a terrible hire?  We should be comparing our hire to other coaches, not just previous head coaches at UNT.  His head coaching hires are just one of the many things he's done wrong as an athletic director.  

[Dr. Seuss]

People are using his HC hires as an example because its one that everyone can agree with.  If RV would have came out and said "I wouldn't go out and say Mac was a good or bad hire but at the end of the day -- We had some great moments that we'll share for the rest of our life together.  Then they're moments I wish I never thought I'd be in.  We have to move on and learn from our mistakes and grow from what we did well.  I believe if we do these things, seeing 30k of the 40k that showed up in 2013 will be coming back to denton six times a year."  Thats it...

Instead, RV came out and said that he did everything perfect and wouldn't have changed anything..  That's not going to win people over...

Edited November 17, 2015 by Dr. Seuss

[NorthTexan95]

How can you base a hire off of one win?  That's my point.  It's extremely too irrational to even bring Mitchell in the conversation, that's what RV would do.  He makes irrational decisions.  Perfect example, giving an extension to a 3rd year HC after his first winning season in 3 years.  Look what UNLV did, of course they didn't win their bowl game but their HC had another losing season and was fired after his forth season.  That's what should have happened to Mac, if we had any press like SMU or TCU, he would have been fired. 

This. 

Plus, "Bad" doesn't really show how bad those hires were.  It's one thing to be bad, it's another to be "program killing awful".  That's what Benford, Stevens, Petersen, and Dodge were.  

Back on topic .. .tremendous win by the ladies.  We're all very proud. 

[UNT90]

How can you base a hire off of one win?  That's my point.  It's extremely too irrational to even bring Mitchell in the conversation, that's what RV would do.  He makes irrational decisions.  Perfect example, giving an extension to a 3rd year HC after his first winning season in 3 years.  Look what UNLV did, of course they didn't win their bowl game but their HC had another losing season and was fired after his forth season.  That's what should have happened to Mac, if we had any press like SMU or TCU, he would have been fired. 

He will say anything to defend RV. His knowledge base is... Lacking.

Great win by the ladies. Maybe the best in program history. Follow through is everything. If this is one win of 10 this season, it won't matter. 

Its nice to have hope, even if it is in the little one of the big three

Get your billboard mother fffrs 

Posts like this just further the perception that you support a man, not a program. 

As a matter of fact, I bet this was your and RV's post game toast while having drinks on the square post game.

Edited November 17, 2015 by UNT90

[Army of Dad]

He will say anything to defend RV. His knowledge base is... Lacking.

Great win by the ladies. Maybe the best in program history. Follow through is everything. If this is one win of 10 this season, it won't matter. 

The ladies may still struggle this season. If they do then I still think this win matters. It's certain to help Jalie in recruiting, but I don't think it's wasted if they win 10-15. This was a VERY bad team last year and there will likely be plenty of bumps in the road.

[cwb]

The ladies may still struggle this season. If they do then I still think this win matters. It's certain to help Jalie in recruiting, but I don't think it's wasted if they win 10-15. This was a VERY bad team last year and there will likely be plenty of bumps in the road.

Thank you for perspective. And congrats ladies.

[UNT90]

The ladies may still struggle this season. If they do then I still think this win matters. It's certain to help Jalie in recruiting, but I don't think it's wasted if they win 10-15. This was a VERY bad team last year and there will likely be plenty of bumps in the road.

Goid point. I guess what I meant to say is this doesn't matter if there is no turnaround in ladies basketball. 

It is a very good early sign, though. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

Great win for the ladies.

Not sure how they lose to San Francisco at home, but go on the road and beat #17OU.  Hopefully coach Mitchell can prove the anomaly was the former and not the latter.  

[Eagle-96]

Congrats on a very big win. Maybe the biggest win in program history. With as bad as the women's team has been this is akin to the new football coach going to Gainesville and beating Florida next year.

[oldguystudent]

Great win for the ladies.

Not sure how they lose to San Francisco at home, but go on the road and beat #17OU.  Hopefully coach Mitchell can prove the anomaly was the former and not the latter.  

Probably first game jitters vs. starting to learn to play together in the new system.  Hopefully, it's a sign of a coming trend.

[UNTLifer]

Yeah, womens bball, bruh. 

Bruh?  Are you twelve?  

 

Great win ladies. Congrats to Coach Mitchell, the staff and team. Hope this is the start of a fantastic season. 

[Aldo]

[rcade]

This is a great win even if the rest of the season does not turn out well, but I hope it's a sign of things to come. UNT played so well that Oklahoma and its coach couldn't believe it. She was completely rattled on the post-game telecast.

As for the people who are using this to say "I told you so," it's no wonder you back RV: You are the most easily satisfied sports fans on the planet. Even a single day of good news is enough for you to forget 10 years of bad.

[southsideguy]

Can we not be happy for a minute here?  Good job ladies you made us all proud.

Edited November 18, 2015 by southsideguy

[Dr. Seuss]

This is a great win even if the rest of the season does not turn out well, but I hope it's a sign of things to come. UNT played so well that Oklahoma and its coach couldn't believe it. She was completely rattled on the post-game telecast.

As for the people who are using this to say "I told you so," it's no wonder you back RV: You are the most easily satisfied sports fans on the planet. Even a single day of good news is enough for you to forget 10 years of bad.

This

[Green Lantern]

Great win for the ladies! So glad Jalie is the one responsible for coaching us to the best win in program history. As @CMJ said, it's fitting that arguably the best women's player in NT history is responsible for its best win as a coach as well. Easy to support one of our own!

Nice to be excited and optimistic again!

[UNTLifer]

This

Not this.  There are a lot of places to run down RV.  This thread is not the place.