EagleGreen Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Rick, I saw you get upset at the end of the game when the fan yelled that our coaches lost the game. You almost lost your cool while starring down the fan. Finally, you just spit on the ground and walked away. Surely, you don't think the players are solely responsible do you. The fan had a valid response, regardless of how he presented it. Do you realize that Todd Dodge is embarrassing to the Mean Green Nation? He has gone 5-33 at the helm with no end in sight. Please fire Todd on Monday and begin the search for a new coach. Sure, it won't hurt to wait until the end of the season to "evaluate the situation", but showing you are in charge and want to lead this team into a new stadium with hope, real hope, is what the MEAN GREEN NATION needs. Lead us Rick. Give us hope. Fire Todd Dodge on Monday. 15 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith7 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 really? another one of these threads? give it up please.. You are embarrassing Mean Green Nation 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eulessismore Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I was close enough to said fan that I could never have missed a word he bellowed, and I do agree it is his right to say what he did, although I wish he would find a volume knob somewhere. The part where I part from what he did was, while there was still some question as to the physical condition and future health of our starting quarterback, not to mention the stress that injury must have been putting on his parents, was yelling out that "coaches lost the game" at that point. Honestly, it had to be frustrating for every UNT fan in attendance, even to the point of heartbreak for some, but to self appoint oneself to thunder out his pronouncement at that point should be worthy of rebuke. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT03 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 really? another one of these threads? give it up please.. You are embarrassing Mean Green Nation Same thread new day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle1855 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 It seems we have more fan/coach fan/AD altercations/interactions than any other Div 1 University I can think of. Or maybe I just hear it about more because it is my Alma Mater. Either way, it's weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Crazy Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Rick, I saw you get upset at the end of the game when the fan yelled that our coaches lost the game. You almost lost your cool while starring down the fan. Finally, you just spit on the ground and walked away. Surely, you don't think the players are solely responsible do you. The fan had a valid response, regardless of how he presented it. Do you realize that Todd Dodge is embarrassing to the Mean Green Nation? He has gone 5-33 at the helm with no end in sight. Please fire Todd on Monday and begin the search for a new coach. Sure, it won't hurt to wait until the end of the season to "evaluate the situation", but showing you are in charge and want to lead this team into a new stadium with hope, real hope, is what the MEAN GREEN NATION needs. Lead us Rick. Give us hope. Fire Todd Dodge on Monday. our players were most of the reason that we lost the game. besides 3-5 questionable calls on offense, it was all lack of focus from the players. dropped passes, dropped interceptions, bad tackling, bad special team coverage (which could be because of coaching) and a couple of really stupid penalties all coaches can do is put an emphasis on wrapping up and stayin in your lane, they can't do it for them. i'm not saying the past 3 years have been the players fault, but last night it wasn't the coaching that lost the game. i wish people would think about what possible recruits are thinking that are in attendance, when they start their verbal assaults on players/coaches. i would think it plays a part in their decision of choosing our school over another. Edited September 12, 2010 by Green Crazy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PlummMeanGreen Posted September 12, 2010 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Rick, I saw you get upset at the end of the game when the fan yelled that our coaches lost the game. You almost lost your cool while starring down the fan. Finally, you just spit on the ground and walked away. Surely, you don't think the players are solely responsible do you. The fan had a valid response, regardless of how he presented it. Do you realize that Todd Dodge is embarrassing to the Mean Green Nation? He has gone 5-33 at the helm with no end in sight. Please fire Todd on Monday and begin the search for a new coach. Sure, it won't hurt to wait until the end of the season to "evaluate the situation", but showing you are in charge and want to lead this team into a new stadium with hope, real hope, is what the MEAN GREEN NATION needs. Lead us Rick. Give us hope. Fire Todd Dodge on Monday. You don't know embarrassment, EagleGreen, you shoulda' been around here in 1981 with a 1 year coach who had 1 win and almost got us on NCAA probation to boot! That was (as Popeye would say) "embarraskin." Prediction: Rick V will not fire Todd Dodge on Monday or the next Monday or the next. If Todd Dodge goes 0 & 5, Rick V will probably still not fire him but rather (silently) start his private search for Coach Dodge's successor knowing how important that hire would be as we are on the eve of having a grand opening for a new football palace being built by the same people who built the Dallas Cowboy's jewel over in Arlington. Rick V has taken the worst AD job in NCAA D1 and made it a good job. He will probably move on to a more high profile job one day in the future. Yet.......for UNT to be building a new stadium during this national economy (near depression) is short of a miracle. I look for Rick V & Company to find a corporate sponsor in due time that will divvy up UNT's $30 million minimum amount requirement (which is what I saw as the minimum amount in some UNT publication). IMO, our stadium location makes that amount do-able. Someone already posted it but UNT has been a coaches graveyard except for Fry and Moore (who was only here 2 years). So, if Dodge is terminated, we really need to do the most extensive search for a HFC in our history so we have someone who somebody else wants to hire and FWIW..........that's when you know you've got something. NOTE: Boise State had 5 HFC's in the space of 10 years and did not miss a lick with their football success--that alone is one of the great success stories in NCAA history. Let Rick V do his thing...he's shown that he can. GMG! Edited September 12, 2010 by PlummMeanGreen 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDL1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 our players were most of the reason that we lost the game. besides 3-5 questionable calls on offense, it was all lack of focus from the players. dropped passes, dropped interceptions, bad tackling, bad special team coverage (which could be because of coaching) and a couple of really stupid penalties all coaches can do is put an emphasis on wrapping up and stayin in your lane, they can't do it for them. i'm not saying the past 3 years have been the players fault, but last night it wasn't the coaching that lost the game. Who do you think prepares our players for the game, picks the starters, and even recruits them? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Crazy Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Who do you think prepares our players for the game, picks the starters, and even recruits them? of the things i listed what are coaches supposed to do to prepare the team to watch balls into their hands, wrap up ball carriers and not hit players that are 3 yards out of bounds? who is starting that you think isn't the best option? you're right about recruiting though, they should just sign 5 star recruits and this wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT03 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 of the things i listed what are coaches supposed to do to prepare the team to watch balls into their hands, wrap up ball carriers and not hit players that are 3 yards out of bounds? who is starting that you think isn't the best option? you're right about recruiting though, they should just sign 5 star recruits and this wouldn't be an issue. How many practices have you ever watched ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDL1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 of the things i listed what are coaches supposed to do to prepare the team to watch balls into their hands, wrap up ball carriers and not hit players that are 3 yards out of bounds? who is starting that you think isn't the best option? you're right about recruiting though, they should just sign 5 star recruits and this wouldn't be an issue. Not only yes, but hell yes, they even work these fundamentals in the pros. Absolutely this is on the coaches. These problems should all be fixed in practice and long before now, I have heard for the last several years from parents and others that our practices have not any where near the intensity of other programs in Texas. Then you watch this crap and it seems to fit. I don't think a well prepared team makes that many mistakes, and we are not young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Crazy Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) How many practices have you ever watched ? none, but i've heard plenty that we don't spend enough time on tackling drills. Not only yes, but hell yes, they even work these fundamentals in the pros. Absolutely this is on the coaches. These problems should all be fixed in practice and long before now, I have heard for the last several years from parents and others that our practices have not any where near the intensity of other programs in Texas. Then you watch this crap and it seems to fit. I don't think a well prepared team makes that many mistakes, and we are not young. they do coach it in the pros, but when roy williams drops a pass, they don't blame the wr coach...it's chalked up to a lack of concentration. if roy williams (the safety) tried to light someone up instead of just wrapping up and tackling they didn't blame the dc. and when was the last time you heard someone blame the coaches for hitting someone out of bounds in the pro's. my point is you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Edited September 12, 2010 by Green Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDL1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) none, but i've heard plenty that we don't spend enough time on tackling drills. they do coach it in the pros, but when roy williams drops a pass, they don't blame the wr coach...it's chalked up to a lack of concentration. if roy williams (the safety) tried to light someone up instead of just wrapping up and tackling they didn't blame the dc. and when was the last time you heard someone blame the coaches for hitting someone out of bounds in the pro's. my point is you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Sure they blame the coaches in the pros and the players in the pros, we had an epidemic of this mistakes last night it is the coaches period, if it was just one or two players I see blaming those players. Edited September 12, 2010 by KingDL1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT03 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 none, but i've heard plenty that we don't spend enough time on tackling drills. Oh we do plenty of tackling drills , we don't do them right. It blows my mind. It's on the coaches , you practice like you play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Crazy Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Sure they blame the coaches in the pros and the players in the pros, we had an epidemic of this mistakes last night it is the coaches period, if it was just one or two players I see blaming those players. then when do mistakes fall on the players? Edited September 12, 2010 by Green Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDL1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 then when do mistakes fall on the players? When it is reoccurring with just one player, and if he can't fix it with the help of the coaches you bench him and let him think about it. A well prepared team does not make these kind of mistakes, the problem yesterday was at a team level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoEagle Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You don't know embarrassment, EagleGreen, you shoulda' been around here in 1981 with a 1 year coach who had 1 win and almost got us on NCAA probation to boot! That was (as Popeye would say) "embarraskin." Prediction: Rick V will not fire Todd Dodge on Monday or the next Monday or the next. If Todd Dodge goes 0 & 5, Rick V will probably still not fire him but rather (silently) start his private search for Coach Dodge's successor knowing how important that hire would be as we are on the eve of having a grand opening for a new football palace being built by the same people who built the Dallas Cowboy's jewel over in Arlington. Rick V has taken the worst AD job in NCAA D1 and made it a good job. He will probably move on to a more high profile job one day in the future. Yet.......for UNT to be building a new stadium during this national economy (near depression) is short of a miracle. I look for Rick V & Company to find a corporate sponsor in due time that will divvy up UNT's $30 million minimum amount requirement (which is what I saw as the minimum amount in some UNT publication). IMO, our stadium location makes that amount do-able. Someone already posted it but UNT has been a coaches graveyard except for Fry and Moore (who was only here 2 years). So, if Dodge is terminated, we really need to do the most extensive search for a HFC in our history so we have someone who somebody else wants to hire and FWIW..........that's when you know you've got something. NOTE: Boise State had 5 HFC's in the space of 10 years and did not miss a lick with their football success--that alone is one of the great success stories in NCAA history. Let Rick V do his thing...he's shown that he can. GMG! Yes, all quite true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Crazy Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 When it is reoccurring with just one player, and if he can't fix it with the help of the coaches you bench him and let him think about it. A well prepared team does not make these kind of mistakes, the problem yesterday was at a team level. i see your point, i just think that all the coaching in the world wouldn't have made jackson not take his eyes off the ball when he was wide open and behind the secondary. that's like an outfielder dropping a routine pop fly...it's lack of concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoEagle Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 It seems we have more fan/coach fan/AD altercations/interactions than any other Div 1 University I can think of. Or maybe I just hear it about more because it is my Alma Mater. Either way, it's weird. I think we just hear about them more. Sometimes the AD's don't hold back on their responses to these outbursts. Check out this from Aggie AD Bill Byrne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT03 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 i see your point, i just think that all the coaching in the world wouldn't have made jackson not take his eyes off the ball when he was wide open and behind the secondary. that's like an outfielder dropping a routine pop fly...it's lack of concentration. When we are 5 - 33 there is plenty of blame to throw around. Coaches,players,injuries,refs,fans,adm,etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTastyGreek Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Same thread new day I'm starting to miss jersey talk, band complaints, hypothetical realignment, and Why Don't We Schedule threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green P1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Maybe we should get a new AD and move Rick to full time stadium director guy? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteaminWillieBeamin Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Maybe we should get a new AD and move Rick to full time stadium director guy? Sounds good to me. I prefer an AD that: 1) Actually raises some money and doesn't require a semi-shady UNT loan to complete the AC. 2) Raises money for the stadium, instead of solely depending on a student fee before proceeding. 3) Doesn't hire a low budget high school coach AND ALLOWED him to bring his entire HS staff with him. 4) When said HS coach and staff are failing, doesn't stomp up and down the field showing the displeasure of his hire. 5) Sits up in the box where he belongs 6) Follows up with his promises (quarterly meetings, "blogs", and the such) I was looking at the donor list and noticed some missing names this year. In fact, looking around section E, I didn't see these "high profile" people either. Struck me odd. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTastyGreek Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Sounds good to me. I prefer an AD that: 1) Actually raises some money and doesn't require a semi-shady UNT loan to complete the AC. 2) Raises money for the stadium, instead of solely depending on a student fee before proceeding. 3) Doesn't hire a low budget high school coach AND ALLOWED him to bring his entire HS staff with him. 4) When said HS coach and staff are failing, doesn't stomp up and down the field showing the displeasure of his hire. 5) Sits up in the box where he belongs 6) Follows up with his promises (quarterly meetings, "blogs", and the such) I was looking at the donor list and noticed some missing names this year. In fact, looking around section E, I didn't see these "high profile" people either. Struck me odd. BOOM, roasted! Slow down, I only get 5 plus-ones a day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green P1 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Would DeLoss Dodds come here? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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