Jump to content

Time For A Change ?

MeanGreen61

By MeanGreen61
in Mean Green Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

island eagle Newbie

island eagle

Posted
Posted

Is it just me ? I find myself reading less and less of Vito's offerings in the DRC.

He seems to be stuck in a time warp with his love for DD and hatred of TD while taking the glass is half empty approach in writing about UNT. A fresh outlook would be nice.

Personally, I find him to be pretty much on the mark. But, that is my point of view and I can understand how others may feel differently. I don't know if he loves DD or hates TD so much, but it is hard to say much positive about the prior 4 years and at least some positive things can be said about the DD era (four bowl games, crushing Baylor, etc.), though I think DD had reached the limits of what he could achieve at UNT. It's is hard to see how anyone would not think the glass is currently half empty/half full with the program at this point in time. Some positives....some negatives...lots of work to do.

  • Upvote 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites
bstnsportsfan3 Grand Master

bstnsportsfan3

Posted
Posted (edited)

Vito tells the truth...what's wrong with that? when pointing out that the dodge era is the worst in history, is he just a bitter writer or a factual writer? he is factual, as dodge had the worst winning percentage in history. Thats just 1 example of stuff people on this board complain about him. Now im not saying i agree with everything he has ever written, i have found more times then not he give an acurate picture of UNT athletics. Were lucky to still have a beat writer with all the cuts the newspaper industry went through. I think he does a good job.

Edited by bstnsportsfan3
  • Upvote 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SHOSS Newbie

SHOSS

Posted
Posted

I'd say Vito has been pretty much right about things thus far this season. I don't like some of the things he writes, but again, these things are pretty much hitting the nail on the head. It sux, but the truth is a killer these days... the folks that do remain faithful are questioning their faith, and the t-shirt alumns with UNT degrees are moving further and further away from being a part of the solution... dark days, Vito is taking some of the heat because everyone wants to kill the messenger...

  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Cerebus Experienced

Cerebus

Posted
Posted

It seems to me much of the Anti Vito sentiment comes down to the fact that he isn't a cheerleader for the department. This is really confusing to me since Tim MacMahon is still beloved and he never pulled any punches either. In fact, he was much more confrontational in my opinion.

In the end, is Vito a victim of the fact he has covered a lot of losing seasons? Probably.

  • Upvote 3
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
GrayEagle Veteran

GrayEagle

Posted
Posted

Have you ever thought about it?

Exactly. I'm not saying that Vito is wrong. It's just that I don't want to be reminded of the last six years ad nauseum.

Look at the first five questions posed. That pretty much says it for me so why continue doing it? Elevating DD to a greatness continually actually has the opposite effect on me. And, is there a soul here that does not know of Dodge's sorry record? Is there anyone that enjoys being constantly reminded of it?

For pete's sake Brett, base your comparisons on the beginning of Coach Mac's era. We all know that he didn't start with a load of talent. An occasional reference to bygone eras is fine but I certainly don't enjoy a steady diet to the tune that I've turned you off.

  • Upvote 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mean Green Matt Veteran

Mean Green Matt

Posted
Posted (edited)

1. Vito is not an employee of the athletic department, so it is not his job to be a cheerleader. Plus, being a cheerleader (at least when "official" people do it) sounds dumb anyways...anyone remember the "NT outgains Tulsa in road loss" headline on Mean Green Sports.

2. Vito is a victim of horrendous football. Someone else said it, but he would not appear so doom and gloom if there was happy stuff to report on, and he would have more to report on if Mccarney (for better or for worse) opened things up a little bit. I don't have a problem with Mccarney being hush-hush, but don't blame that on Vito either.

3. Lastly, considering he posts on this board, isn't this a little awkward... :unsure:

To be clear, I do have my issues with Vito's writing sometimes, but I think it is more a product of the situation than anything.

Edited by Mean Green Matt
  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
tylermeangreen Newbie

tylermeangreen

Posted
Posted

Exactly. I'm not saying that Vito is wrong. It's just that I don't want to be reminded of the last six years ad nauseum.

Look at the first five questions posed. That pretty much says it for me so why continue doing it? Elevating DD to a greatness continually actually has the opposite effect on me. And, is there a soul here that does not know of Dodge's sorry record? Is there anyone that enjoys being constantly reminded of it?

For pete's sake Brett, base your comparisons on the beginning of Coach Mac's era. We all know that he didn't start with a load of talent. An occasional reference to bygone eras is fine but I certainly don't enjoy a steady diet to the tune that I've turned you off.

Bravo!!!

The man's arrogance is replusive.......when he feels he has been proven right, mistaken or not and even weeks after the fact, he will make sure that we know that he so prognosticated.

Given the arrogance, he lost credibility with me long ago.

  • Upvote 3
  • Downvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Quoner Mentor

Quoner

Posted
Posted (edited)

Brett Vito, you just lost a listener!

Also, we're knocking Vito for being arrogant and condescending while praising T-Mac in the same thread?

Edited by Quoner
  • Upvote 3
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 9

      SB at Charlotte (5/3-5/24)

      Idiot alert
      UNTLifer in Mean Green Athletics
    2. 43

      The NT Purge of 2023

      Isaiah Johnson to ACU Dillon Williams to UTEP
      UNTLifer in Mean Green Football
    3. 16

      Why the NCAA model is dying and will be replaced

      You can rebuild a college basketball rotation to contend at a high level in one year. That is just 8-9 players. And if you get lucky with 2-3 absolute monsters, you can make a run in any given season. Of course, then those 2-3 monsters will get poached by deeper pockets and you will have to start all over again. But still, it is possible. But we can’t rebuild a college football two-deep in one year. That’s almost 50 players that we need to compete at a high level. And as has been demonstrated, any time we get football players who have any kind of success in the NIL era, they are gone quicker than you can say “Chandler Rogers”. Another reason it is easier for us to compete in the NIL era in basketball is because that sport is dominated by guards. There are LOTS of talented guards available in college basketball and some of the very best can fall through the cracks and land with us for atleast a season. And while many people would say that college football is dominated by quarterbacks (and that position is VERY important)… what really separates the elite college football programs from everyone else are the defensive linemen. The supply of 18-24 year-old humans who weigh 300 pounds with the strength to take on multiple blockers while also having the speed to run down a quarterback is no where near the demand. And these defensive linemen usually take a while to develop. But anytime a defensive linemen shows a hint of promise, he gets funneled to the highest bidder and that won’t be us. Which means we will never be able to compete with the SEC or Big 10 in football.
      MeanGreenZen in Mean Green Football
    4. 16

      Why the NCAA model is dying and will be replaced

      The problem is that boosters will always pay to get players and the Supreme Court made that legal. This will never go away. I truly believe that universities will own their team and play in leagues that features paid players, players that don’t even go to school. They’re employees. Texas could sign Vince Young to be their QB for 7 years to keep him. Same with the Aggies with Manziel. You get the idea. They’ll have coaches and GMs and be able to trade players, sign players to extensions, and develop players in minor league setups. The rest of us are the ones that have the chance to actually play amateur college sports. Players are students who play for scholarships and stipends, all of which is governed by a NCAA type entity. And I believe that there will be a market for this level of play. I believe that watching traditional college sports will get eyeballs. Even if the Power 40 play their own semi-pro league.
      untjim1995 in Mean Green Football
    5. 9

      SB at Charlotte (5/3-5/24)

      He finally lost all pf Tracy Kee’s players.
      • 1
      • Confused
      Tom McKrackin in Mean Green Athletics

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,380
    • Most Online
      1,865
    KeithSHU
    Newest Member
    KeithSHU
    Joined

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.