Morris signals it is over

[Tommy Gadberry]

[NorthTexasWeLove]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

Answer to his question: You don't. 

I wonder how many P5 OC job postings he's opened up and read. 

[emmitt01]

Ok, everyone....

Sit down. 

Take a deep breath.

Light a nice smelling candle and rub some jasmine oil on your temples.  

Close your eyes and think of a babbling brook...feel the anxiety washing down that stream and away from you.

Now, open your eyes, and let this settle in.

 

HE'S NOT WRONG AND A G5 LEAGUE IS NOT THE SAME AS 1-AA

[NorthTexasWeLove]

5 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

Ok, everyone....

Sit down. 

Take a deep breath.

Light a nice smelling candle and rub some jasmine oil on your temples.  

Close your eyes and think of a babbling brook...feel the anxiety washing down that stream and away from you.

Now, open your eyes, and let this settle in.

 

HE'S NOT WRONG AND A G5 LEAGUE IS NOT THE SAME AS 1-AA

On the surface, not right now. Sure, I agree with you. But once the interest declines further the TV deals will shrink significantly. Then, we'll be on track to being almost as irrelevant. I give it a decade. 

[RBP79]

Yea.....he's right. It's just a matter of time before this BS implodes on itself. The money is not there for most G5's and the P4s will destroy each other.

[Glory to the Green]

I’m 100% okay with the Big Ten/SEC (and change) breaking off and with regional rivalries taking over. I don’t know how sustainable it is financially, but I’d watch Tulane/Tulsa over Vanderbilt/VaTech any day of the week. 

[Mean Green 93-98]

11 minutes ago, RBP79 said:

Yea.....he's right. It's just a matter of time before this BS implodes on itself. The money is not there for most G5's and the P4s will destroy each other.

That's the thing . . . the money is not there for most G5's, so they will be more willing to play bodybag games.  And P4 teams will have zero incentive to schedule home-and-home series with G5 teams.  So the P4 teams will use increasingly weaker G5 teams to have 8-home game schedules and an easy path to bowl eligibility.

So I don't ever see "P4" and "G5" ever completely breaking off from each other.  P4 needs G5 to avoid "destroying each other."  But I do see it being more difficult than ever for G5 teams to compete with P4 teams.

[DentonStang]

Here's the article 

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2024/05/08/a-split-is-coming-coaches-sound-off-on-future-of-g5-football?ref=article_preview_title

[Cougar King]

Morris says that and will jump ship to the first P4 opportunity that opens up. 

[97and03]

Morris:

[Cr1028]

2 hours ago, Tommy Gadberry said:

[MeanGreenZen]

23 minutes ago, Cougar King said:

Morris says that and will jump ship to the first P4 opportunity that opens up. 

Don’t kid yourself, Cougar King. There is no “P4”.
There is the SEC. The Big 10. And then everyone else. The ACC and Big 12 are just as irrelevant as the rest of G5 in football now and will only become more so…

[Cr1028]

Very defeatist attitude. Maybe you feel that way in private but saying it publicly doesn’t exactly endear you to fans.

[Mean Green 93-98]

9 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

Don’t kid yourself, Cougar King. There is no “P4”.
There is the SEC. The Big 10. And then everyone else. The ACC and Big 12 are just as irrelevant as the rest of G5 in football now and will only become more so…

Yes, there's a huge gulf between the SEC/Big 10 and the Big XII/ACC.  But there's an even huger gulf between the Big XII/ACC and G5.  Four conferences get a seat at the table, and teams in those 4 conferences average about 10 times the TV revenue that G5 teams get.

If TV revenues continue to diminish enough in the future, that could change.  

[GrandGreen]

7 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Very defeatist attitude. Maybe you feel that way in private but saying it publicly doesn’t exactly endear you to fans.

There is such a thing as being right, and absolutely stupid for expressing that view. 

[tmjerm]

11 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Very defeatist attitude. Maybe you feel that way in private but saying it publicly doesn’t exactly endear you to fans.

Yeah I'm getting real tired of us just being bitches and giving up.  I get it...Bama has a million more resources than we do.  But Guayana is a country just as much as the USA is.  Why would you quit trying to climb the ladder unless you're just soft and don't care?  I'll tell you this, I care.  And I'll keep throwing money at this dumpster fire because I'm proud to be an Eagle.  

 

Then....there's logic.  I understand the reality.  But to be public about it just seems so lame.  

[MeanGreenZen]

3 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

There is such a thing as being right, and absolutely stupid for expressing that view. 

The guy just lost every good player on his team to schools who gave his players more money. Anybody reading this article already understands the reality of what he is stating. The sooner a new G5 system can be implemented, the better.

[GrandGreen]

10 minutes ago, MeanGreenZen said:

The guy just lost every good player on his team to schools who gave his players more money. Anybody reading this article already understands the reality of what he is stating. The sooner a new G5 system can be implemented, the better.

This is football not basketball.

Hodge is the one who deserves to complain not Morris.

[jtm0097]

[meangreenbob]

Over more than a decade ago I posted a marketing plan for the survival of G5’s. Darn good plan too. In fact, I used what I learned in my North Texas “Marketing Problems” class.   

I also have been saying for decades that time is of the essence. Those of you who mocked me will remember. 

Well, we did build a new stadium and even a nice indoor practice facility. But unfortunately we failed miserably at what was really important, WINNING and building a strong supportive fan base.  We made very foolish decisions in hiring head coaches and even more so in their employment contracts. It cost us dearly. We lost well over a decade of opportunity, settling for mediocrity. 

Were we ever going to be invited to the P5? Of course not. But there will be a lot  great schools left out as well. Had we had quality leaders in our Administration we would be a program other name schools would want to align with making what would be seen as a quality conference. 
 

But then again…….whats the saying? How does it go? All together now. But 
we are North Texas. 

[Wag Tag]

Just be a successful mid major! Merg with the MWC. Establish a playoff with a championship. I can see BB becoming the major driver for UNT sports.

[ntmeangreen11]

That's a pretty wild defeatist attitude from your head coach. Kind of explains why they won't even try with a certain level of prospect. I've been saying it since last year, the sooner we start cutting the football budget to add to the basketball budget the better off we will be. That is the only sport we have a chance to be nationally relevant in. We didn't capitalize on the sun belt championships, we didn't capitalize on the new stadium, we didn't capitalize on the conference change, we were a middling or below average team in a bottom 2 conference for most of the last 20 years, that window has closed. 

It's forever go mean green, but the (albeit far-fetched) dream is over.

[El Paso Eagle]

On 5/8/2024 at 3:57 PM, MeanGreenZen said:

The guy just lost every good player on his team to schools who gave his players more money. Anybody reading this article already understands the reality of what he is stating. The sooner a new G5 system can be implemented, the better.

Don't let reality get in the way. You have P5s paying their squad members who might never see the field during the game more than 95% of the G5s can pay their best players. The other reality is we have an alum base that, for the most part, does not care about athletics. He is not being defeatist or delusional like many fans when he says we have to find another way to make this work.

Edited Friday at 04:31 AM by El Paso Eagle

[El Paso Eagle]

3 hours ago, Cr1028 said:

Very defeatist attitude. Maybe you feel that way in private but saying it publicly doesn’t exactly endear you to fans.

How is this the defeatus unless you're a delusional fan who doesn't realize there's a significant difference? For years, people come on here and ditch and moan about coach talk, and then a coach finally says something truthful and something that everybody knows is true, and then people want to bitch because he says that. I did not see anything he said about giving up, but I did see him commenting that we have to find different ways to do relevant, which is the same thing so many on here moan about constantly.

Edited May 8 by El Paso Eagle

[meangreenfaninno]

2 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

There is such a thing as being right, and absolutely stupid for expressing that view. 

Agreed.  Why can’t he keep his insecurities to himself.