Texas State 42, University of Wyoming 21 - FINAL

[Boko Dweller]

http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/092913aaa.html

[Harry]

Wow that's an impressive win. The mighty mountain West --- that'll show them arrogant bastages. Congrats.

[FirefightnRick]

Nice win.

Rick

[foutsrouts]

Rob Lowe is a more talented running back than I thought. Nice win over a Wyoming team that I had pegged as better than usual.

[UNT90]

Looks like Coach Fran has that program going where it needs to go in his 3rd year.

Let's not forget that we bypassed him for DMac.

Better win this year.

[Texas Stranger]

Looks like Coach Fran has that program going where it needs to go in his 3rd year.

Let's not forget that we bypassed him for DMac.

Better win this year.

Length of time before Fran calls a university in southern California?

Question, no info

Edited September 29, 2013 by Texas Stranger

[MeanGreen61]

Looks like Coach Fran has that program going where it needs to go in his 3rd year.

Let's not forget that we bypassed him for DMac.

Better win this year.

If we did, you'd certainly remind us.

Edited September 29, 2013 by MeanGreen61

[Mean Green Matt]

Doesn't TSU have a fan board? Yeah, this belongs there.

[emmitt01]

Doesn't TSU-San Marcos have a fan board? Yeah, this belongs there.

Fixed

[UNT90]

If we did, you'd certainly remind us.

Right, Because in your world, we shouldn't worry about coaching hires, no matter how many times we screw the pooch.

#accountability

[MeanGreen61]

Right, Because in your world, we shouldn't worry about coaching hires, no matter how many times we screw the pooch.

#accountability

No in my world I don't look for something to complain about or make negative comments on in EVERY thread.

[UNT90]

No in my world I don't look for something to complain about or make negative comments on in EVERY thread.

Or any, for that matter.

DMac may turnout fine, but we need not forget who we passed up.

Fran already has wins over a CUSA school on the road and a Mountain West school. 2 pretty good notches on the belt of a 1st year Sun Belt school starting it's second (or is it first?) year of FBS play.

And for those that believe DMac wouldn't also be on the phone to the west coast, you are kidding yourselves. Maybe you should consider who the west coast would consider the better candidate. Just a thought.

[UNTLifer]

Did we pass up Fran? That is the question. If we did, I would still rather have Coach Mac and our staff.

[Mean Green Matt]

And for those that believe DMac wouldn't also be on the phone to the west coast, you are kidding yourselves. Maybe you should consider who the west coast would consider the better candidate. Just a thought.

Dan McCarney has loyalty to this program until a bigger paycheck comes around, and anyone that thinks it is any different for head coaches at other schools on our level are being naïve. The ONLY case where this rule may not apply is in the case of coaches at their alma mater, or if the coach thinks they have a good team that's about to take off and they stick around to try and get a better offer the next year (Cristobal).

EDIT: Although I value loyalty, I don't necessarily consider it a bad thing...for a coach to get better offers and move up it means they accomplished something positive. If Mccarney moves on, he will have left us in a much better place than when he got here.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Mean Green Matt

[MeanGreen61]

Or any, for that matter.

DMac may turnout fine, but we need not forget who we passed up.

Fran already has wins over a CUSA school on the road and a Mountain West school. 2 pretty good notches on the belt of a 1st year Sun Belt school starting it's second (or is it first?) year of FBS play.

And for those that believe DMac wouldn't also be on the phone to the west coast, you are kidding yourselves. Maybe you should consider who the west coast would consider the better candidate. Just a thought.

Didn't Fran throw his hat in the ring for quite a few jobs before getting the one at Texas State ? Just a thought.

[UNT90]

Didn't Fran throw his hat in the ring for quite a few jobs before getting the one at Texas State ? Just a thought.

And Coach Mac didn't??

I would hope both wanted to be head football coaches at the college level, being that both had a previous position at that level.

One just had more previous success than the other as a head coach.

Edited September 29, 2013 by UNT90

[UNT 90 Grad]

Wow that's an impressive win. The mighty mountain West --- that'll show them arrogant bastages. Congrats.

Fargin ice holes!

[greenminer]

I didn't need to be reminded of Fran to know we should constantly shoot high.

I think this is only fueling anti-AD sentiment.

[PlummMeanGreen]

On 2 different occassions Coach Fran was my #1 choice for the UNT HFC's job, but I am content with the direction Coach Mac has us during his Year 3.

Coach Fran at his past jobs seems to get early success then boogy on to larger stadiums, larger crowds and larger paychecks. When Coach Mac gets his success at UNT I don't see him leaving us near as quickly. At age 60, that may also slow down his decision to leave.

If Coach Mac ever had such a choice for another job, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how disappointed he is with our fan support and how that could help him make a decision to leave--Fry mentioned that as a reason for him to leave us; hence, some of us posting all these significant "butts in seats" promotion ideas to prevent "THAT" from being a reason for a coach to leave. In other words, there is so much more to all these put fans in Apogee promotions posts many make to the level of ad nausem than meets the eye.

GMG!

If TSU were smart and savvy about such things, they would make a big push to get into the MWC; that is, if they haven't already started that process.

If SMU and UH sensed TSU was going to do that, then I think that is when they would start their own push for MWC membership. It is no secret that much of the MWC wants some kind of Texas presence. UTSA would be one of their prime areas of interest, too. If North Texas the last 30 plus years would have, uh, well...............never mind. .

Edited September 29, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[UNTLifer]

And Coach Mac didn't??

I would hope both wanted to be head football coaches at the college level, being that both had a previous position at that level.

One just had more previous success than the other as a head coach.

Don't know, do you, or is this all speculation on your part?

[UNTexas]

Fargin ice holes!

My father hit me once. Once...

[Legend500]

Ultimately we're all in the same hole. Whether we're Texas State, UNT, SMU - we're all Texans on the outside looking in. I've got no problem talking about other Texas teams on our board - we don't need to be a-holes who are only paying attention to our team.

The only way we get anywhere is by working together - UNT and SMU have figured that out (conferences aside - SMU would have no boosters left if they allowed us in the some conference).

As far as Mac vs. Fran - Texas State was willing to take a BIG risk hiring him. We already had problems on the horizon with the NCAA (grad rates, etc.) which Mac has done an AWESOME job addressing.

And as far as RV - Four conference championships, two dances, baseball and a new stadium makes him the most successful AD in our history.Sometimes even the greatest have down years, but RV has taken us quite far from where we were.

[UNTLifer]

Ultimately we're all in the same hole. Whether we're Texas State, UNT, SMU - we're all Texans on the outside looking in. I've got no problem talking about other Texas teams on our board - we don't need to be a-holes who are only paying attention to our team.

The only way we get anywhere is by working together - UNT and SMU have figured that out (conferences aside - SMU would have no boosters left if they allowed us in the some conference).

As far as Mac vs. Fran - Texas State was willing to take a BIG risk hiring him. We already had problems on the horizon with the NCAA (grad rates, etc.) which Mac has done an AWESOME job addressing.

And as far as RV - Four conference championships, two dances, baseball and a new stadium makes him the most successful AD in our history.Sometimes even the greatest have down years, but RV has taken us quite far from where we were.

So true, and you should be awarded for making such factual statements with such brevity.

P.S. You may be called an apologist for stating the above.

[UNTexas]

Ultimately we're all in the same hole. Whether we're Texas State, UNT, SMU - we're all Texans on the outside looking in. I've got no problem talking about other Texas teams on our board - we don't need to be a-holes who are only paying attention to our team.

The only way we get anywhere is by working together - UNT and SMU have figured that out (conferences aside - SMU would have no boosters left if they allowed us in the some conference).

As far as Mac vs. Fran - Texas State was willing to take a BIG risk hiring him. We already had problems on the horizon with the NCAA (grad rates, etc.) which Mac has done an AWESOME job addressing.

And as far as RV - Four conference championships, two dances, baseball and a new stadium makes him the most successful AD in our history.Sometimes even the greatest have down years, but RV has taken us quite far from where we were.

Very well said. I wish almost every Texas school well except when playing us. RV has done a great job in an uphill battle. UNT's future in athletics is looking really good these days.

[PlummMeanGreen]

So true, and you should be awarded for making such factual statements with such brevity.

P.S. You may be called an apologist for stating the above.

Did all you good folks read "Cliff Notes" on every required reading novel to keep from reading more than a paragraph (or two or three) from all those great, uh, classics?

Brevity seems to make some of your's pant legs go crazy; you know, like, uh, Chris Matthews?

Do you only go to churches where the minister only has 10 minute sermons, too?

(I am being tongue in cheek for those who don't know it).

Edited September 29, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen