New commit Creighton transfer post Brock Vice

[Jonnyeagle]

 

[emmitt01]

Sounds like he was a pretty good prospect coming out of high school. 

"Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay. The 6-foot-10 power forward Brock Vice (Germantown, Tenn. / Houston HS) has signed a National Letter of Intent to attend Creighton and play for the Bluejays. He's ranked as the nation's No. 33 best center prospect by 247Sports and the No. 3 overall player in the state of Tennessee"

Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay (247sports.com)

[SUMG]

This is great news. I wanted us to get this kid last year. 

He originally signed with St. Louis....when Phil Forte was on their staff. 

But, like Layne Taylor with us, Brock got out of his letter of intent (with SLU)....and was back out being recruited. I hoped with the connection with Forte....that we'd get him last year.....but he went to Creighton. 

[SUMG]

His junior year at Houston High School in Germantown.....he averaged 19ppg and 10 rpg. And he was a stud WR on their football team.

https://slubillikens.com/news/2022/11/9/mens-basketball-brock-vice-signs-with-billikens.aspx

[SUMG]

Averaged 17.5ppg and 14 rpg his senior year in High School. The guy's a rebounder's rebounder. 

(from his Creighton bio)

• Utilized his redshirt option.
• Entered transfer portal on March 31, 2024.
• Averaged 4.7 points and 6.0 rebounds in just 9.0 minutes per game in the Bahamas.
• A rebounding machine, he snared eight rebounds in just under 10 minutes of Creighton’s exhibition game win vs. Wayne State (Nov. 3).
• Averaged 17.5 points and 14.0 rebounds per game as a senior, earning All-District honors.
• Former Houston (Tenn.) High School teammate of current Bluejay teammates Johnathan Lawson and Mason Miller, where they were coached by Mason’s dad Mike Miller.
• Was also an All-Region 8-6A wide receiver on the football team, leading the team in both receptions and touchdowns.
• Father Vance is the offensive line coach for UNLV Football who has also worked at Virginia Tech, Memphis, Georgia and Clemson in his career.

 

[Shark84]

Solid rebounder, decent outside shot and a little post-up game from what I saw in his AAU videos. Welcome aboard young man!

[Cooley]

Looks good on video and paper. Just can't get excited these day when guys are here today and gone tomorrow.

[Green Otaku]

This is an excellent pickup! So he has 4 years of eligibility left?

[SUMG]

Just now, Green Otaku said:

This is an excellent pickup! So he has 4 years of eligibility left?

Yes. But not that that means anything any more. 

[Green Otaku]

1 minute ago, SUMG said:

Yes. But not that that means anything any more. 

Yup, glad to have him for as long as that is.

[Shark84]

3 minutes ago, SUMG said:

Yes. But not that that means anything any more. 

Take it one year at a time!

[Matt from A700]

21 minutes ago, Shark84 said:

Take it one year at a time!

Yes!! Let's stop thinking about who's going to hurt us in the portal next season and try to get excited for 2024-25.

I'm intrigued to find out if this guy is going to compete for Moulaye's spot in the starting lineup. I'm assuming Sissoko is coming back for his grad year until news comes out otherwise. The thing that might make Vice our 6th man instead is his young age. But he's an inch taller and just 5 lbs. lighter than Moulaye. In limited time he had better stats, including rebounding, than Moulaye last year.

He's also got a cool name. I wish it rolled off the tongue better.

[3_n_out]

1 hour ago, Matt from A700 said:

Yes!! Let's stop thinking about who's going to hurt us in the portal next season and try to get excited for 2024-25.

I'm intrigued to find out if this guy is going to compete for Moulaye's spot in the starting lineup. I'm assuming Sissoko is coming back for his grad year until news comes out otherwise. The thing that might make Vice our 6th man instead is his young age. But he's an inch taller and just 5 lbs. lighter than Moulaye. In limited time he had better stats, including rebounding, than Moulaye last year.

He's also got a cool name. I wish it rolled off the tongue better.

Just let this kid play 30mins a game. I’m certain he’d have better numbers than Moulaye

[SUMG]

One of the people who went on Twitter to congratulate Brock, and say we've got a good one here....none other than Darrel Ray Dickey

 

 

[MeanGreenZen]

This is an interesting pickup for us. This guy doesn’t conform to the typical transfer profile that we should be focusing on: highly productive player at a low-major/D2 or a formerly productive player at high-major/mid-major who needs a change of scenery. 

Brock Vice has played ZERO real college basketball. 

But finding a player who can be productive for us at the center position is going to take some creativity.

Need to replace Tylor Perry or Jason Edwards? Not fun, but there are LOTS of fast young men 5’9 or taller who can dribble and shoot that the marketplace has undervalued. Ross Hodge can take his pick. 

There just aren’t very many 18-24 year-old humans who are 6’9 or taller. And the marketplace places a very high price on those who are that tall AND possess any degree of athleticism or basketball skill. 
 

Which brings us back to Brock Vice, who redshirted on a VERY good Creighton team that finished 25-10 last season (second-place in the Big East). 

The starting center on that team was Ryan Kalkbrenner, a 7’1 monster who averaged 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots a game. His backup also put up good numbers in very limited minutes. 
 

So Vice hasn’t been a productive college player yet, but atleast he has a good excuse. 

With both players in front of him on the depth chart eligible to come back to Creighton next season, Vice needs a change of scenery to get his oversized sneakers on the court. 

He’s 6-10. Can rebound AND shoot. Was an outstanding high school and AAU basketball player. And has enough meat on his bones and athleticism to have been a standout high school football player. 
 

This is exactly the kind of kid that Ross should be landing. We did not have a player like this guy on our team last season and it hurt us all year. 

Welcome to Denton!

 

 

Edited April 20 by MeanGreenZen

[meangreenfaninno]

3 hours ago, MeanGreenZen said:

This is an interesting pickup for us. This guy doesn’t conform to the typical transfer profile that we should be focusing on: highly productive player at a low-major/D2 or a formerly productive player at high-major/mid-major who needs a change of scenery. 

Brock Vice has played ZERO real college basketball. 

But finding a player who can be productive for us at the center position is going to take some creativity.

Need to replace Tylor Perry or Jason Edwards? Not fun, but there are LOTS of fast young men 5’9 or taller who can dribble and shoot that the marketplace has undervalued. Ross Hodge can take his pick. 

There just aren’t very many 18-24 year-old humans who are 6’9 or taller. And the marketplace places a very high price on those who are that tall AND possess any degree of athleticism or basketball skill. 
 

Which brings us back to Brock Vice, who redshirted on a VERY good Creighton team that finished 25-10 last season (second-place in the Big East). 

The starting center on that team was Ryan Kalkbrenner, a 7’1 monster who averaged 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots a game. His backup also put up good numbers in very limited minutes. 
 

So Vice hasn’t been a productive college player yet, but atleast he has a good excuse. 

With both players in front of him on the depth chart eligible to come back to Creighton next season, Vice needs a change of scenery to get his oversized sneakers on the court. 

He’s 6-10. Can rebound AND shoot. Was an outstanding high school and AAU basketball player. And has enough meat on his bones and athleticism to have been a standout high school football player. 
 

This is exactly the kind of kid that Ross should be landing. We did not have a player like this guy on our team last season and it hurt us all year. 

Welcome to Denton!

 

 

Good take!  I think he fits this profile:

1 wants a place where can prove himself and get some good  guaranteed minutes

2 is not going to demand outrageous NIL money out of the gate

some of the guys leaving are going to figure out that being a depth, off the bench guy at a power school is not easy.

 

[Rudy]

[UNT78]

Why can’t we be a power conference? Can UNT at least be a conference champion with Hodge?

[Green Lantern]

1 hour ago, UNT78 said:

Why can’t we be a power conference? Can UNT at least be a conference champion with Hodge?

What does this mean?

[MeanGreen22]

Skilled bigs are hard to find in college basketball. This could be fun. 

[3_n_out]

1 hour ago, MeanGreen22 said:

Skilled bigs are hard to find in college basketball. This could be fun. 

This is an important take. There are plenty of guards/wings out there compared to bigs…let alone skilled bigs. Definitely much harder to fill than guards/wings. 1st box…✅

[MeanGreenTexan]

On 4/20/2024 at 8:19 AM, MeanGreenZen said:

This is an interesting pickup for us. This guy doesn’t conform to the typical transfer profile that we should be focusing on: highly productive player at a low-major/D2 or a formerly productive player at high-major/mid-major who needs a change of scenery. 

Brock Vice has played ZERO real college basketball. 

But finding a player who can be productive for us at the center position is going to take some creativity.

Need to replace Tylor Perry or Jason Edwards? Not fun, but there are LOTS of fast young men 5’9 or taller who can dribble and shoot that the marketplace has undervalued. Ross Hodge can take his pick. 

There just aren’t very many 18-24 year-old humans who are 6’9 or taller. And the marketplace places a very high price on those who are that tall AND possess any degree of athleticism or basketball skill. 
 

Which brings us back to Brock Vice, who redshirted on a VERY good Creighton team that finished 25-10 last season (second-place in the Big East). 

The starting center on that team was Ryan Kalkbrenner, a 7’1 monster who averaged 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots a game. His backup also put up good numbers in very limited minutes. 
 

So Vice hasn’t been a productive college player yet, but atleast he has a good excuse. 

With both players in front of him on the depth chart eligible to come back to Creighton next season, Vice needs a change of scenery to get his oversized sneakers on the court. 

He’s 6-10. Can rebound AND shoot. Was an outstanding high school and AAU basketball player. And has enough meat on his bones and athleticism to have been a standout high school football player. 
 

This is exactly the kind of kid that Ross should be landing. We did not have a player like this guy on our team last season and it hurt us all year. 

Welcome to Denton!

 

 

This is a lot of typing to try and spin the bolded part.  😬😬

[MeanGreenZen]

2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

This is a lot of typing to try and spin the bolded part.  😬😬

What? You think we should be pulling Vlad Goldin out of the transfer portal?

Last I heard he is leaning towards UCONN.

 

[Cooley]

Tyran Mason's Plano teammate, Justin McBride, (Junior year) is also in the portal. May be looking for another P5. Very good player that would really help.

https://okstate.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/justin-mcbride/11152

Mason - #1, McBride #21

 

[Glory to the Green]

4 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

This is a lot of typing to try and spin the bolded part.  😬😬

He was a highly rated prospect that spent the last year in a quality program. There’s no need for spin. This a good pick up for Ross. Excited to see him develop.