Mason Fine

[xyresic]

Mason's stats this season:

Yds: 3749 - 9th in the nation

Rat: 147.8 - 29th in the nation

TD's: 28 - Tied for 12th in the nation

6 of the 8 QB's ahead of him in passing yards are Seniors, so Mason will have the 3rd most yards of any returning QB. That changes to #2 if Sam Darnold is a top pick in next year's draft as expected.  If I am a High School WR recruit my eyes light up thinking of the stats that are going to get put up the next two seasons. It will be fun to track, a UNT QB leading the country in passing yards has a nice ring to it.

Edited December 8, 2017 by xyresic

[Wag Tag]

35 minutes ago, xyresic said:

Mason's stats this season:

Yds: 3749 - 9th in the nation

Rat: 147.8 - 29th in the nation

TD's: 28 - Tied for 12th in the nation

6 of the 8 QB's ahead of him in passing yards are Seniors, so Mason will have the 3rd most yards of any returning QB. That changes to #2 if Sam Darnold is a top pick in next year's draft as expected.  If I am a High School WR recruit my eyes light up thinking of the stats that are going to get put up the next two seasons. It will be fun to track, a UNT QB leading the country in passing yards has a nice ring to it.

Man oh man have we gone from the outhouse to the penthouse with our QB!! GMG 

[GMG24]

36 minutes ago, xyresic said:

Mason's stats this season:

Yds: 3749 - 9th in the nation

Rat: 147.8 - 29th in the nation

TD's: 28 - Tied for 12th in the nation

6 of the 8 QB's ahead of him in passing yards are Seniors, so Mason will have the 3rd most yards of any returning QB. That changes to #2 if Sam Darnold is a top pick in next year's draft as expected.  If I am a High School WR recruit my eyes light up thinking of the stats that are going to get put up the next two seasons. It will be fun to track, a UNT QB leading the country in passing yards has a nice ring to it.

Hopefully that exact thing is being sold to recruits.

[drex]

But don't forget...Seth cannot recruit.

[greenminer]

6 minutes ago, drex said:

But don't forget...Seth cannot recruit.

Fine had no other offers out of HS.  SL could have approved GreenMiner to make the visit and extend the offer, and Mason Fine would have come to Denton.

This is not a reflection of Seth's recruiting ability.  Simply 1) A QB placed in a system he is built for and, 2) Player development.

[DeepGreen]

1 hour ago, xyresic said:

Mason's stats this season:

Yds: 3749 - 9th in the nation

Rat: 147.8 - 29th in the nation

TD's: 28 - Tied for 12th in the nation

6 of the 8 QB's ahead of him in passing yards are Seniors, so Mason will have the 3rd most yards of any returning QB. That changes to #2 if Sam Darnold is a top pick in next year's draft as expected.  If I am a High School WR recruit my eyes light up thinking of the stats that are going to get put up the next two seasons. It will be fun to track, a UNT QB leading the country in passing yards has a nice ring to it.

Has anyone from Troy seen this information?

[TroyFootball05]

2 hours ago, DeepGreen said:

Has anyone from Troy seen this information?

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

[UNTLifer]

13 minutes ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

You will lose. 

[UNTexas]

11 minutes ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

I'd rather go to this dentist than read your novel sized post.

[NorthTexan95]

40 minutes ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year.

Iowa. 

[DeepGreen]

Damn!  Was it something I said?

[DeepGreen]

I mean, with those Troy stats maybe we should forfeit the game?

[Withers940]

22 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:

Iowa. 

Lol, all that research and for what? To sound like an asshat at the end

[dmaxel]

1 hour ago, TroyFootball05 said:

UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

101st?? Better than last year! :):):)

[TroyFootball05]

 

1 hour ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year.

 

57 minutes ago, NorthTexan95 said:

Iowa. 

 

33 minutes ago, Withers940 said:

Lol, all that research and for what? To sound like an asshat at the end

 

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category21/sort03.html

Edited December 8, 2017 by TroyFootball05

[NorthTexan95]

44 minutes ago, TroyFootball05 said:

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category21/sort03.html

Cherry picking one obscure state to make your case doesn't work. 

[peanuts104]

Our offense played like **** in the first half against FAU in the title game, and only marginally better in the second.   You can bet they'll be angry and highly motivated to compete and perform.  Troy's defense is impressive and it will be a fun match up to watch.  We still haven't played a complete game this year.  This is our opportunity to do that.  I hope Troy's players think it will be as much of a cake walk as their fans.

[p_phelps]

8 hours ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

Mason isn't a statue back there, he can move pretty good. He's damn sure not scared to run it when he needs to.

[GangGreen]

9 hours ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

TL,DR

[Green Lantern]

9 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

You will lose. 

[meangreenlax]

10 hours ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

You want to put your GPA down too? Nobody cares about your unsolicited and cherry picked analysis dude.

[MeanGreenTexan]

3 minutes ago, meangreenlax said:

You want to put your GPA down too? Nobody cares about your unsolicited and cherry picked analysis dude.

I happen to appreciate when someone comes on here and tries to shed some light on their team using stats & logic.
Would you rather have the UTSA-like alternative?

[GMG24]

11 hours ago, TroyFootball05 said:

Check these out (national stats):

Troy Sacks: 12th / 3 per game / 36 sacks
UNT Sacks Allowed: 101st / 2.5 per game / 33 sacks allowed

Looks like Fine won't be so fine against Troy.

Troy Tackles For Loss: 5th / 8.42 per game / 101 Tackles For Loss
UNT Tackles For Loss Allowed: 115th / 6.54 per game / 85 Tackles For Loss Allowed

Defensively we will likely win the line of scrimmage.

Troy Kick Returns: 2nd
UNT Kick Return Defense: 107th

Marcus Jones has three returns for a TD in the last few games. This is a another huge mismatch to give Troy great field position.

Troy Rushing Defense: 7th / 3.03 ypr
UNT Rush Offense: 47th / 4.65 ypr

This might be the best rushing attack we've seen this year. But without your top running back, I'll give the edge to Troy.

Troy Red Zone Defense: 1st / 58%
UNT Red Zone Offense: 25th / 89%

I do think you'll get some point here, but we'll win a lot those battles as well.

Note: Arkansas State's Hansen has able to put up big yards not just because he was a great passer, but because our Achilles' heel is a running QB. Without his ability to run, he wouldn't have been as effective through the air. The Troy defense is best against a true pocket passer. With your top running back out, and our 7th ranked rush defense, Fine will have to try and win this game on his own. That's a tall task even for a 1st Team QB going against this Troy pass rush. We can talk about your defensive statistics later ;)

Overall I think your QB is great, but this the best front seven you've seen all year. The run game likely won't happen for you, and Fine will have to make something happen. It doesn't look like your offensive line is good at blocking, and that's bad news vs this Troy defense.

One more note: Our DC is Vic Koenning. He was Clemson's DC from 2005 to 2008 and had four Top 15 defenses there. He is a seasoned big time P5 defensive  coordinator. He's been successful everywhere. We currently have the 11th ranked scoring defense in the country, right where it was when he was at Clemson. Our head coach was the OC at Troy during our title run when you guys where there, and then had three Top 25 offenses at Texas Tech. Our defense plays against what you guys run everyday so they'll be no real secrets. Mason Fine will have to carry his team and be a true X-Factor. Here's more info on Vic Koenning and Neal Brown as coordinators:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-719423-post-11555381.html#pid11555381

I've heard you guys say that you've played better competition. The experts say otherwise. All of the major outlets say there is virtually no difference between our schedules.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...s-2017-sos
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo...h-by-other
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sta...0826040000

Curious why did he leave Clemson and how did he end up at Troy?

[MeanGreenTexan]

Just now, Prettylittleeagle said:

All against SBC teams, most of which have losing records, oh ya don't forget the time you beat LSU when they were half asleep. 

You also said Troy has the best front 7 we've seen all year, ya right. All of these stats don't mean much to me when you play teams like Coastal Carolina and Texas State which inflate your numbers beyond belief. 

Maybe our offensive stats dont mean much to Troy fans after we played Lamar, Rice & UTEP?


Stop sleeping on Troy y'all.  They're very good.

[meangreenlax]

48 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I happen to appreciate when someone comes on here and tries to shed some light on their team using stats & logic.
Would you rather have the UTSA-like alternative?

Oh come on. Nobody is sleeping on Troy. They have a similar SOS, and obviously beating LSU was a huge win. They're a very good team, and with our shoddy defense, we might very well lose. 

Hot take: the Sun Belt is the worst conference in FBS, hands down. CUSA might be terrible, but its definitely better than the Fun Belt. There's much more parity, and the games as a whole are way more competitive. Inflated stats from beating up on glorified FCS teams like Idaho, Texas State, Coastal, Georgia Southern, etc. doesn't really impress me. Sorry. Troy, App St. and A-State are the only good teams in that conference.  Lets trade Rice, UTEP, Charlotte, and ODU for them.