Terrible- look at this...

[Mo Green]

We don't do anything to promote the football games in D/FW but in San Antonio businesses of all kinds mentioned as supporting utsa football & go to the next game.

http://www.goutsa.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13100&ATCLID=209261161

You look at rv's marketing and what do you see? NOTHING in D/FW and in Denton... equals great crowds at our games.

[cdizzle86]

Here we go....

[THOR]

But he has a point...

[NT03]

That's good deal. If I lived in SA , I'd buy that. The Alamo Bowl has always had good matchups

[oldguystudent]

That stadium looks like the Kibbie Dome on a diet of chicken fried steak and twinkies.

[meangreanmick]

Maybe we should sell a combo ticket to the UTSA game and the Alamo Bowl.

[Eagle1855]

It's a different market, different situation entirely. There are a lot more places, teams and events for businesses to invest their advertising dollars in D/FW versus San Antonio.

Also, the Alamo Bowl is downtown. We're 40 miles from the center of either downtown destination in D/FW.

[untbowler]

How many sellouts or even 30K crowds have we had at our less than 2 y.o. stadium?

think marketing is a major issue.

[KRAM1]

Good grief...not again!

[Green Mean]

How many sellouts or even 30K crowds have we had at our less than 2 y.o. stadium?

think marketing is a major issue.

Marketing can take some of the blame but being North Texas and with a ton of apathy still around is the reason why never had 30K at Apogee. Just be patient and keep on winning and I believe that will slowly but surely change.

[Green Otaku]

It's a different market, different situation entirely. There are a lot more places, teams and events for businesses to invest their advertising dollars in D/FW versus San Antonio.

Also, the Alamo Bowl is downtown. We're 40 miles from the center of either downtown destination in D/FW.

all great points, but with hundreds of thousands of people close by we are doing a poor job of marketing to the people close by, especially people in Denton.

[ragpicker]

It's a different market, different situation entirely. There are a lot more places, teams and events for businesses to invest their advertising dollars in D/FW versus San Antonio.

Also, the Alamo Bowl is downtown. We're 40 miles from the center of either downtown destination in D/FW.

It's a different market, different situation entirely. There are a lot more places, teams and events for businesses to invest their advertising dollars in D/FW versus San Antonio.

Also, the Alamo Bowl is downtown. We're 40 miles from the center of either downtown destination in D/FW.

But most of our local alumni LIVR in DFW.

[ragpicker]

We don't do anything to promote the football games in D/FW but in San Antonio businesses of all kinds mentioned as supporting utsa football & go to the next game.

http://www.goutsa.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13100&ATCLID=209261161

You look at rv's marketing and what do you see? NOTHING in D/FW and in Denton... equals great crowds at our games.

Great point Mo Green (AKA Bugsy Siegel). Our games are local rumors at best.

[Chief Rising Eagle]

We will have 30K for the UTSA game. 10K of which will be from UTSA.

[hickoryhouse]

I have people from UTSA coming up to see the game with me that weekend. They are going to have a good crowd there.

[PlummMeanGreen]

Solving our attendance shortages should be a campus, city of Denton, DFW alums and Denton County challenge with all the selected powers that be forming a "Git Er' Done" committee and maybe even having an initial meeting in the Hurley Adminstration Building?

Being Redundant All Over Again With A New Wrinkle:

As posted by 2 or 3 on this board, TCU and the city of Fort Worth got together on the Horned Frogs football attendance problems post-SWC implosion after TCU suddenly woke up one morning and noticed they were having way too many empty seats at ACS; that is, when UT, TAMU, Texas Tech and Baylor with their thousands of traveling fans were no longer coming to Fort Worth. Can you imagine the fan base we could have built at North Texas had we had all those school's fans coming to Denton for about a century?

Do We Have Movers and Shakers? I Think We Do For A Fact ! Question is can we ever get them all on the same page to utilize their talents before Armageddon?

The Deception of It All & When This Topic Will Suddenly Disappear From This Forum--not that it should be forgotten because we all know quite well how this could easily repeat itself (again) a la Ball State and even as it did in Lance Dunbars last game at Apogee versus the MUTS .

Lets face a basic fact here: What happened at the Ball State game at Apogee will happen time and time again next season and the next season if we don't attack our attendance woes. A few good crowds during conference will not solve the problems we see at least with 1 or 2 games per year, now will it?

Will This Topic Disappear After This? That is, after the first big CUSA Apogee home crowd with a good number of traveling fans along with a conference game that means something will undoubtedly (for the most part) get our attendance back in some semblance of sync; especially when the UNT students come back en mass, but this...........WE STILL NEED AN AGGRESSIVE 'butts in seats" promotions and marketing program each Fall because of our Metroplex location with so many other R & R choices for our students and alums

Why Not This Meeting of Minds If We're Serious About Apogee Attendance (and how it made our school and Denton look downright terrible on Fox Sports SW the other day)?

The Meeting of the Minds? UNT Prez' Lane Rawlins, the UNT Board of Regents, UNT AD/Rick V, the Denton Mayor, the Denton Chamber of Commerce Executive Director should all get together, hold hands, sing "We Are The Word" and do just like TCU and form a "Committee of however many it takes" to attack this attendance thing head-on with solving the problem as the main objective--not merely discussing it because we do that enough on GMG.com.

SMU stopped promoting and look what happened to them at Ford Stadium even while they were winning? I used to laugh at all that, but I don't any more. We don't have room to laugh at North Texas.

For our school, "butts in seats" sports marketing & promotions are not something you create to make work, it is something you do to make your program work period; that is, if you want to keep up with how successful other CUSA schools are doing at the turnstiles.

North Texas can ill afford to fail with this venture and create a scenario where other CUSA schools are going......"Beep! Beep!"

GMG!

Edited September 17, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[SilverEagle]

We will have 30K for the UTSA game. 10K of which will be from UTSA.

Sounds great to me. I hope you're right. AND I hope they bring their band.

[forevereagle]

[PlummMeanGreen]

Addendum:

All in all, this attendance thing is (IMHO) more than just a UNT Athletic Department thing. TCU and their Committee of 100 a few years back would tell us all that in a heart beat. TCU did not solve their attendance woes all by themselves at all.

GMG!

[UNT90]

How many sellouts or even 30K crowds have we had at our less than 2 y.o. stadium?

think marketing is a major issue.

And scheduling, or lack of it.

Hurrah for a 2015 five game home season!!!

[UNT90]

We will have 30K for the UTSA game. 10K of which will be from UTSA.

UTSA will travel 10, not 10k

Surely this was sarcasm.

[ColoradoEagle]

And scheduling, or lack of it.

Hurrah for a 2015 five game home season!!!

Even if we don't get out of Tennessee or Iowa, one of our away games is at SMU.

[Cr1028]

^{We don't have a bowl game in our home stadium so we can't try and drum up attendance for one of our games by piggybacking a fairly popular bowl game.}

[NT03]

UTSA will travel 10, not 10k

Surely this was sarcasm.

You will see a lot of orange in Apogee that day. I bet over a thousand

Edited September 17, 2013 by NT03

[UNT90]

Even if we don't get out of Tennessee or Iowa, one of our away games is at SMU.

When did SNU start playing home games at Apogee??

Just lay back and enjoy it, right Clayton?

God I hate this mentality.