Official Derek Thompson Apology Thread

[LongJim]

Not "esque" - full blown douche baggery.

Yep. Pure sorriness.

[BillySee58]

So saying that our qb play didn't improve this year is being ungrateful and being a douchebag?

[UNTLifer]

So saying that our qb play didn't improve this year is being ungrateful and being a douchebag?

Yes, especially during QB's last rdgular season game, a game we win big against a team we hadn't beat since 1969. Just couldn't wait until the off season and enjoyed this win and season? Yep, douchebaggery of the highest order.

[UNT90]

As far as what I saw, he threw a tight spiral on all his throws and made plays with his feet when the opportunity presented itself. There has to be some reason why he's been over looked as far as the back up goes. It could be lack of playbook knowledge or maybe there is something behind closed doors that hinders him from getting PT.

Or it could be ball security.

Throwing tight spirals is great, unless you throw them to the other team a lot.

Being able to run with the ball as a QB is great, also. Unless you resort to running in a panic after your first read is covered. Or if you consistently put the ball on the ground when getting hit while running.

I have no idea if this factored into the equation, but Mac does because he has seen BB in practice. And BB is 4th on this year's QB depth chart. Behind a true freshman.

That should tell everyone all they need to know.

There is a lot more that goes into playing the QB position than just raw physical ability.

[KingDL1]

I could do without these sappy apology threads that appear like knee-jerk reactions.

[H-towngreen]

Seriously though, Derek Thompson with another solid performance, a 114 QB passer rating.

Rick

A very DTesque game. 17-26 for 173 yds and 1 int. QBR rating of 57.5(50 is considered average)

[BillySee58]

Yes, especially during QB's last rdgular season game, a game we win big against a team we hadn't beat since 1969. Just couldn't wait until the off season and enjoyed this win and season? Yep, douchebaggery of the highest order.

And looking at the season accumulated stats, now that the regular season has concluded, is not enjoying a win?

Call who you want douchebags. I'm going to keep supporting this team and DT as they go into this bowl game and be very grateful, as I even have said on here multiple times, for the ride they've given us. Also going to keep discussing football and the stats associated with it on this football forum.

[KingDL1]

Guys chill on calling other members names even in a round about way.

[Chief Rising Eagle]

I saw DT scramble 26 yards for the game winning touchdown against Ball State (10-2).

[Green59]

Some in our fan base are trying to out-douche Texas and Oklahoma fans who complain when they win.

We should be grateful to every coach and player on this team for producing a winning/bowl season after the long absence of both that we have endured.

The constant complaining about DT and Coach Mac in the Chat Room through out the Tulsa game was disappointing especially with such a dominating blow out win.

[H-towngreen]

Simply put, we don't win bc of DT and more often than not we don't lose bc of DT. He is an average to below average QB. Never enough to carry a team and never enough to totally lose a game.

[RETSO]

Thanks for an 8 win season and a bowl

[FirefightnRick]

A very DTesque game. 17-26 for 173 yds and 1 int. QBR rating of 57.5(50 is considered average)

That looks like an NFL QB passer rating? If so, the NCAA is different.

His NCAA calculated QB passer rating is 113.58

Rick

Edited December 1, 2013 by FirefightnRick

[eulessismore]

Derek, thanks for quarterbacking us in this first winning season in what, 9 years.

[FirefightnRick]

Derrick Thompson has concrete blocks for shoes. But did you see the high school passing stats for these guys?

Dane Evans.....completed 583-of-905 passes for 9,074 yards and 94 touchdowns in his career......also rushed for 628 career yards and nine touchdowns . . . finished his career ranked 15th on the state of Texas' career passing chart.

Finished 9 of 24 for 76 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derrick Thompson.

Cody Green-....A returning letterwinner and starter . . . sat out the 2011 season after transferring from the University of Nebraska . . . has a 14-3 record as a collegiate starter, including 10-3 at Tulsa and 4-0 at Nebraska . . . has thrown for 3,249 yards and 22 touchdowns in his combined statistics at Nebraska and Tulsa . . . 2012 - Played in 13 games . . . started all 13 of those games and had a 10-3 record as the starting quarterback . . . threw for 2,592 yards and 17 TDs on the season . . . had six 200+ passing games . . . was an honorable mention all-C-USA selection . . . missed the Rice game with an injury . . . returned against Arkansas and completed 22-of-37 passes for 222 yards . . . had a career-long pass of 74 yards against Tulane and a career-long 57-yard run at SMU . . . had career-highs against SMU of 36-of-64 for 413 yards and three TDs, also ran three times for 51 yards . . . had his fifth 200+ passing game with 252 yards and a career-high three TDs on 21-of-34 passing against UCF in the regular season meeting . . . had 130 passing yards and 31 rushing yards with two TDs at Houston . . . threw for 237 yards and two TDs at UAB . . . played only the first five series against Nicholls State and led Tulsa to five touchdowns and 35 points . . . completed 10-of-15 passes for 130 yards and two TDs in that game... completed 61-percent of his passes vs. Tulane for 274 yards and two touchdowns . . . 2011 - Sat out the season after transferring from Nebraska . . . Overall - Provides great leadership . . . brings a lot of confidence, calmness and intangibles to the quarterback position . . . has great size and strength . . . has great knowledge of the offense.

Previous College - Played in 18 career games and had four starts at Nebraska . . . completed 54-percent of his passes (66-of-122) for 657 yards and five touchdowns in his two seasons . . . threw for 340 yards and three TDs as he completed 33-of-66 passes, while rushing for 96 yards and one touchdown in 2010 . . . received the starting assignment against Iowa State and Colorado in 2010 . . . guided the Huskers to a 31-30 overtime victory against the Cyclones, while completing 7-of-12 passes for 79 yards. Green completed 10-of-13 passes for 80 yards and two scores, while rushing seven times for 23 yards and a touchdown against Colorado . . . started two games as a true freshman in 2009, coming against Baylor and Oklahoma . . . threw for 317 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for 158 yards and a pair of scores in those two contests . . . compiled 171 yards of total offense, while completing 12-of-21 passes for 128 yards against Baylor . . . was the first true freshman quarterback to start at Nebraska since Tommie Frazier in 1992.

High School - Led Dayton High School to a 13-2 record and a Class 4A state runner-up finish as a senior . . . amassed nearly 5,000 yards of total offense, throwing for 3,265 yards and 37 touchdowns, while rushing for 1,610 yards and 25 touchdowns his senior season. . . produced more than 1,000 yards passing and nearly 800 rushing yards in six playoff games in leading the Broncos to the state title game as a senior . . . passed for 329 yards and six touchdowns, while rushing for 94 yards in the 4A state title game . . . was named first-team all-area by the Houston Chronicle . . . earned honorable mention Class 4A all-state accolades by the Associated Press his senior season.

Finished 3-8 with 2 INT's for 27 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek Thompson

Joseph Calcagne.....Was a three-year letterwinner and two-year starter at Springdale High School . . . threw for 4,718 yards and 42 TDsin his final two seasons at Springdale High School . . . threw for 2,159 yards and 16 TDs, while rushing for 288 yards as a senior . . . was named to the Class 7A all-state team by the Arkansas Activities Association

Finished 2 of 6 for 11 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek Thompson

Rick

Edited December 1, 2013 by FirefightnRick

[H-towngreen]

That looks like an NFL QB passer rating? If so, the NCAA is different.

His NCAA calculated QB passer rating is 113.58

Rick

Different rating system.

Bottom line 17-26 173 yds 1 pick. Some people consider that good QB play some consider it poor QB play.

[Got5onIt]

Derek is not the most accurate or physically gifted QB on this roster. He's the best decision maker, thus the reason he's the starting QB. The QBs have to make the right reads on any given pass play. DT obviously does that better than any other QB wearing a NT uniform.

Just to break it down a little, there's a correct throw on any given pass play based on what the defense is doing. It's not just limited to audibles and reading formations pre snap.

I think a lot of the frustration with DT stems from his average/below average accuracy. He probably makes the correct "throw" most of the time, he just can't seem to hit his target consistently. This is why Lil Mac is #2 & BB a distant 3rd. It all comes down to making the correct throw and limiting mistakes/turnovers.

With that said, the team is 8-4 and in a spot none of us could even imagine before the season started. Let's be happy !

Also, let's please stop these apologetic/soap box threads. We all know the popular opinions here on GMG, we just open a can of worms with every one of these threads....

Edited December 1, 2013 by Got5onIt

[FirefightnRick]

Different rating system.

Bottom line 17-26 173 yds 1 pick. Some people consider that good QB play some consider it poor QB play.

I know its a different rating system, thats why I pointed that out. He's in the NCAA, not the NFL.

And we have been begging for our team to take what someone gives us and ride it into the sunset. We did just that today to the tune of 385 yards and 5 touchdowns. Derrick was instructed by his coaches, and the situation that laid before him, to do nothing but manage the game accordingly. He didnt bail and pass to the other team all day and he didnt put the ball on the ground when asked to run for three first downs. He also should have had a TD on the first drive had it not been for the WR fumble inside the Tulsa 5 yardline on the opening drive

Bottom line...Derek Thompson is a winner.

I still wonder if Karma will end up biting us in the ass for being a sorry thankless fanbase and send us instead to Sochi Russia for the Fake Frozen Facade Bowl?

Rick

Edited December 1, 2013 by FirefightnRick

[emmitt01]

Derrick Thompson has concrete blocks for shoes. But did you see the high school passing stats for these guys?Dane Evans.....completed 583-of-905 passes for 9,074 yards and 94 touchdowns in his career......also rushed for 628 career yards and nine touchdowns . . . finished his career ranked 15th on the state of Texas' career passing chart.Finished 9 of 24 for 76 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derrick Thompson.Cody Green-....A returning letterwinner and starter . . . sat out the 2011 season after transferring from the University of Nebraska . . . has a 14-3 record as a collegiate starter, including 10-3 at Tulsa and 4-0 at Nebraska . . . has thrown for 3,249 yards and 22 touchdowns in his combined statistics at Nebraska and Tulsa . . . 2012 - Played in 13 games . . . started all 13 of those games and had a 10-3 record as the starting quarterback . . . threw for 2,592 yards and 17 TDs on the season . . . had six 200+ passing games . . . was an honorable mention all-C-USA selection . . . missed the Rice game with an injury . . . returned against Arkansas and completed 22-of-37 passes for 222 yards . . . had a career-long pass of 74 yards against Tulane and a career-long 57-yard run at SMU . . . had career-highs against SMU of 36-of-64 for 413 yards and three TDs, also ran three times for 51 yards . . . had his fifth 200+ passing game with 252 yards and a career-high three TDs on 21-of-34 passing against UCF in the regular season meeting . . . had 130 passing yards and 31 rushing yards with two TDs at Houston . . . threw for 237 yards and two TDs at UAB . . . played only the first five series against Nicholls State and led Tulsa to five touchdowns and 35 points . . . completed 10-of-15 passes for 130 yards and two TDs in that game... completed 61-percent of his passes vs. Tulane for 274 yards and two touchdowns . . . 2011 - Sat out the season after transferring from Nebraska . . . Overall - Provides great leadership . . . brings a lot of confidence, calmness and intangibles to the quarterback position . . . has great size and strength . . . has great knowledge of the offense.

Previous College - Played in 18 career games and had four starts at Nebraska . . . completed 54-percent of his passes (66-of-122) for 657 yards and five touchdowns in his two seasons . . . threw for 340 yards and three TDs as he completed 33-of-66 passes, while rushing for 96 yards and one touchdown in 2010 . . . received the starting assignment against Iowa State and Colorado in 2010 . . . guided the Huskers to a 31-30 overtime victory against the Cyclones, while completing 7-of-12 passes for 79 yards. Green completed 10-of-13 passes for 80 yards and two scores, while rushing seven times for 23 yards and a touchdown against Colorado . . . started two games as a true freshman in 2009, coming against Baylor and Oklahoma . . . threw for 317 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for 158 yards and a pair of scores in those two contests . . . compiled 171 yards of total offense, while completing 12-of-21 passes for 128 yards against Baylor . . . was the first true freshman quarterback to start at Nebraska since Tommie Frazier in 1992.

High School - Led Dayton High School to a 13-2 record and a Class 4A state runner-up finish as a senior . . . amassed nearly 5,000 yards of total offense, throwing for 3,265 yards and 37 touchdowns, while rushing for 1,610 yards and 25 touchdowns his senior season. . . produced more than 1,000 yards passing and nearly 800 rushing yards in six playoff games in leading the Broncos to the state title game as a senior . . . passed for 329 yards and six touchdowns, while rushing for 94 yards in the 4A state title game . . . was named first-team all-area by the Houston Chronicle . . . earned honorable mention Class 4A all-state accolades by the Associated Press his senior season. Finished 3-8 with 2 INT's for 27 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek ThompsonJoseph Calcagne.....Was a three-year letterwinner and two-year starter at Springdale High School . . . threw for 4,718 yards and 42 TDsin his final two seasons at Springdale High School . . . threw for 2,159 yards and 16 TDs, while rushing for 288 yards as a senior . . . was named to the Class 7A all-state team by the Arkansas Activities AssociationFinished 2 of 6 for 11 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek Thompson

Rick

When did Derek start playing defense?

[Rudy]

So saying that our qb play didn't improve this year is being ungrateful and being a douchebag?

I'd call it being incorrect more than anything.

[H-towngreen]

I know its a different rating system, thats why I pointed that out. He's in the NCAA, not the NFL.

And we have been begging for our team to take what someone gives us and ride it into the sunset. We did just that today to the tune of 385 yards and 5 touchdowns. Derrick was instructed by his coaches, and the situation that laid before him, to do nothing but manage the game accordingly. He didnt bail and pass to the other team all day and he didnt put the ball on the ground when asked to run for three first downs. He also should have had a TD on the first drive had it not been for the WR fumble inside the Tulsa 5 yardline on the opening drive

Bottom line...Derek Thompson is a winner.

I still wonder if Karma will end up biting us in the ass for being a sorry thankless fanbase and send us instead to Sochi Russia for the Fake Frozen Facade Bowl?

Rick

Ok, ok, ok.. Well look at both rankings for the season.

In QBR DT is 87 out of 128

In passer rating he is 70 out of 124

I'm no math major but I'm pretty sure that's bottom half in both. You say his job is to manage the games but 14tds to 13 ints isn't a great ratio for that. Just because his stats are poor doesn't automatically make him a game manager. A game manager should have a high completion percentage, low TD/int ratio, and should put the ball in places where it gives his WR a chance to make a play. DT really doesn't have any of the 3.

DT is a leader and his is tough as nails. I certainly thank him for leading this team the he has this season. I don't think that there are many out there who saw 8-4 in their crystal ball.

[SilverEagle]

Derrick Thompson has concrete blocks for shoes. But did you see the high school passing stats for these guys?

Dane Evans.....completed 583-of-905 passes for 9,074 yards and 94 touchdowns in his career......also rushed for 628 career yards and nine touchdowns . . . finished his career ranked 15th on the state of Texas' career passing chart.

Finished 9 of 24 for 76 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derrick Thompson.

Cody Green-....A returning letterwinner and starter . . . sat out the 2011 season after transferring from the University of Nebraska . . . has a 14-3 record as a collegiate starter, including 10-3 at Tulsa and 4-0 at Nebraska . . . has thrown for 3,249 yards and 22 touchdowns in his combined statistics at Nebraska and Tulsa . . . 2012 - Played in 13 games . . . started all 13 of those games and had a 10-3 record as the starting quarterback . . . threw for 2,592 yards and 17 TDs on the season . . . had six 200+ passing games . . . was an honorable mention all-C-USA selection . . . missed the Rice game with an injury . . . returned against Arkansas and completed 22-of-37 passes for 222 yards . . . had a career-long pass of 74 yards against Tulane and a career-long 57-yard run at SMU . . . had career-highs against SMU of 36-of-64 for 413 yards and three TDs, also ran three times for 51 yards . . . had his fifth 200+ passing game with 252 yards and a career-high three TDs on 21-of-34 passing against UCF in the regular season meeting . . . had 130 passing yards and 31 rushing yards with two TDs at Houston . . . threw for 237 yards and two TDs at UAB . . . played only the first five series against Nicholls State and led Tulsa to five touchdowns and 35 points . . . completed 10-of-15 passes for 130 yards and two TDs in that game... completed 61-percent of his passes vs. Tulane for 274 yards and two touchdowns . . . 2011 - Sat out the season after transferring from Nebraska . . . Overall - Provides great leadership . . . brings a lot of confidence, calmness and intangibles to the quarterback position . . . has great size and strength . . . has great knowledge of the offense.

Previous College - Played in 18 career games and had four starts at Nebraska . . . completed 54-percent of his passes (66-of-122) for 657 yards and five touchdowns in his two seasons . . . threw for 340 yards and three TDs as he completed 33-of-66 passes, while rushing for 96 yards and one touchdown in 2010 . . . received the starting assignment against Iowa State and Colorado in 2010 . . . guided the Huskers to a 31-30 overtime victory against the Cyclones, while completing 7-of-12 passes for 79 yards. Green completed 10-of-13 passes for 80 yards and two scores, while rushing seven times for 23 yards and a touchdown against Colorado . . . started two games as a true freshman in 2009, coming against Baylor and Oklahoma . . . threw for 317 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for 158 yards and a pair of scores in those two contests . . . compiled 171 yards of total offense, while completing 12-of-21 passes for 128 yards against Baylor . . . was the first true freshman quarterback to start at Nebraska since Tommie Frazier in 1992.

High School - Led Dayton High School to a 13-2 record and a Class 4A state runner-up finish as a senior . . . amassed nearly 5,000 yards of total offense, throwing for 3,265 yards and 37 touchdowns, while rushing for 1,610 yards and 25 touchdowns his senior season. . . produced more than 1,000 yards passing and nearly 800 rushing yards in six playoff games in leading the Broncos to the state title game as a senior . . . passed for 329 yards and six touchdowns, while rushing for 94 yards in the 4A state title game . . . was named first-team all-area by the Houston Chronicle . . . earned honorable mention Class 4A all-state accolades by the Associated Press his senior season.

Finished 3-8 with 2 INT's for 27 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek Thompson

Joseph Calcagne.....Was a three-year letterwinner and two-year starter at Springdale High School . . . threw for 4,718 yards and 42 TDsin his final two seasons at Springdale High School . . . threw for 2,159 yards and 16 TDs, while rushing for 288 yards as a senior . . . was named to the Class 7A all-state team by the Arkansas Activities Association

Finished 2 of 6 for 11 yards and NO touchdowns vs Derek Thompson

Rick

No, all of that was vs our defense. I would hazard a guess that, if put behind that Tulsa line, Derek wouldn't fare any better against our defense yesterday.

Derek was improved some from last year. But too many times this year Derek reverted back to the old Derek.

As I've said before. With better QB play (fwiw my choice after the spring game was McNulty) and with Coach Mac not interfering with the offensive calls, we would have gone 11-1 this year.

Having said all that I am very appreciative of Dereks hard work and devotion to the school.

[Harry]

Calcagne was a very highly recruited player out of high school. Interestingly enough, so were most of the Tulsa players on the field yesterday. Seems to me that Mac and company have done a better job of evaluating and developing talent.

[SilverEagle]

Calcagne was a very highly recruited player out of high school. Interestingly enough, so were most of the Tulsa players on the field yesterday. Seems to me that Mac and company have done a better job of evaluating and developing talent.

...especially on the defensive side of the ball. Coach Mac does a great job of "motivating" players. One example is Abbe. Up until this year he was a pretty average DT. But this year he's noticeably better.

[H-towngreen]

...especially on the defensive side of the ball. Coach Mac does a great job of "motivating" players. One example is Abbe. Up until this year he was a pretty average DT. But this year he's noticeably better.

He's had a monster year