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It was hotter than 🔥Hell🔥on this glorious day at fabulous Apogee Stadium. ❇️🦅❇️

According to D1Docket, we have added a game in OKC against Tulsa.

Training camp has started. For those keeping an eye out for coverage of Mr. Fine, he is sporting the number 8, per their roster.

I never hear in real life, anyone, ever, talk about Liberty in any capacity.

He injured/tore his bicep on his throwing arm when he hit the top of Boogers helmet on a follow-thru on a throw during a pre-Texas game passing drill. He was out the rest of the season after the Texas game.

It seems to me that our offense may be somewhat overrated due to the fact our defense is so bad. Our offense gets the ball a lot and is able to score because the defense can’t stop anyone. So Iin many ways out offensive statistics are misleading.

University of Phoenix has a huge alumni base too. It's all about online enrollment from the homeschooled and military. Liberty gets 'talked' about for reasons that they are not proud of... and not talked about for things they want to get talked about.

According to the Roughrider’s roster, Mason wears #4. His #6 and # 9, his high school number are taken by a defensive lineman and a punter, respectively. 6 is divisible by 4 by 1 with 2 left over, which is half of 4. 9 is divisible by 4, 2 times with 1 left over because Mason is number one with me. See how this works ???

Rice is making progress towards building a $100,000,000 athletic endowment. I know Wren has done many great things since taking over at UNT, but is this something on his radar? I'm sure he is aware of Rice's ambitions, but I'm wondering if we are currently working towards something similar at UNT, or if it is something we need to get in place too. $100 million is probably not a realistic goal, but a multi-million dollar athletic endowment would certainly benefit our athletic department both financially and in perception. Thoughts? https://riceowls.com/documents/2019/4/7//Rice_Athletics_2019_2023_Strategic_Plan_WEB.pdf?id=8790

Worth the watch. puts things in perspective. thanks P.

I have been in their stadium and practice facility and although they are good ours are much nicer, for what it’s worth.

That would be a fun trip up 35

You're so kind.....but probably the only one....😉 Excellent grouping. I would find room for Nick Zuniga, who started at OG as a true freshman and made all conference the next three years. People don't know how hard it is for someone to become a starter in the OL as a true freshman. After Greene, Hardeman and Booger, I would nominate Rex Johnson in the DL. Ken Washington was good, but IMHO Jordan Case, and Joe Stevenson were better QB's of that era. In the Corkey Nelson-Dennie Parker era, the two best were Scott Davis and Mitch Maher. Steve Ramsey was more versatile than most people realize. His senior year he was the team punter with a 38 yard average. John Love deserves mention as well. He didn't have Darden numbers, but he was the leading receiver in the nation in 1966 and was honorable mention all-American. The year before he got 144 yards receiving against (former SWC power) Arkansas in the 6th game of the season. By the sixth game Arkansas had plenty of film on him and still couldn't stop him.

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I think you're right.... The problem with that thinking is our offense isn't CLOSE to good enough to be able to pull that off like those other teams could. Those offenses (Baylor, Tech, etc) were head and shoulders better than ours. In points per game, Baylor was #1 in the nation 3 years in a row. We've never sniffed that. The highest LIttrell has ever been is #19 in 2017. Someone said earlier that his offense is overrated and they are correct. It is massively overrated. Last year in pts per game, we ranked #23 at 34.4 and 2 cancellations probably helped us as we didn't play A&M. Above us on the list, Coastal Carolina, LIberty, SMU, Buffalo...even Texas whose coach was run out of town for many reasons but one being his offense wasn't good enough. They averaged 42.7 per game last season. To put this in perspective....Littrell is seen as the offensive guru, he's not even the best in a 30 mile radius. La Tech had the #1 offense in the nation in 2012 at 51 points per game! That was Sonny Dykes. Then it took Skip Holtz 4 years and he had La Tech's offense back at an elite level at #2 in the nation in scoring at 44 pts per game. #1 that year? Conference mate WKU. We've never been close to that level. I'm not even going to get into the meaningless yards and points Littrell has stacked up after being blown out early as it's been covered. While 34 points per game is nice...especially considering how dreadful our offense was with McCarney....after 6 years our offense is no where near the level necessary to make up for the defense that is played here. If Littrell is going to have that mindset, he needs to be averaging 40-50 pts per game.

I didn't want to be left out on creating an SMU thread. Forgive me.

Ugh! Josh Greer, I'd forgot about him.

He won $248,000 Has won $1,898,891 on the year (55th on the Tour Money List)

We are going to shock the world! GMG

Anything remotely comparable to that happening now with Smatresk and Baker seems completely out of the realm of possibility. Not to say they are perfect, but they are damn near the antithesis of Bataille and RV when it comes to running this AD. So much so that I don’t think we can use what happened under them as any real predictor of imminent AD decision making.

What are all the “ wrong reasons” people are talking about Liberty ? Did people abandon Penn State ? Did they abandon Baylor ? Did they abandon Southern Meth ? (OK the fans abandoned them but they still get the players) People love a winner. Liberty is a winner. With their money and success on the field, court and field, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in the Big 12 soon.

Also shows us traveling to Wichita State at a date TBD. That was a matchup that was scheduled last year but removed due to the altered COVID start date. And then the previously reported home game against Nevada.

You could tell when we played at Liberty in 2018 that they had the right ingredients for a top G5 program. We were able to run the ball down their throats in the pouring rain that night, but they had a lot of good looking athletes and outstanding facilities. It was simply a matter of time, and here we are.

Because he's a big bodied kid who can absolutely fly on the stopwatch. The potential is off the charts, and he would really help himself by pulling the game together, and developing some polish & finesse.

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You were the last one. lol

That is a pretty strong signing

The last glimmer of hope from a McCarney-coached team. This was before the putrid offense finally beat the other 2 phases into submission. Hell the Texas game the week before had me wanting to vomit. We threw 3 completions and 4 picks that game. After DT and crew left, our offense was beyond disastrous. You can see from this video (and the Texas game if you were there) the defense was as good or very close to as good as the 2013 defense until their constantly being on the field due to poor offense wore them down. I have no doubt that this is the reason Skladany retired for good because he was still doing a damn good job but the defense can only do so much.

Has an interesting YouTube channel: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCVfS7lz-c3V479QZMkDaKfw/videos

The goal should be to continue to work toward an undefeated season in a few years, schedule and beat a top 10 team, and get an invite to the CFB expansion dance of 12. There’s now a path where there was none before. Let’s get better and better and get ready for 2024 or 2025.

Maybe we should get them to also rank our Mean Green Village venues as compared to the “bloody” rest of CUSA along with most of the G”freakin’5” (& even some P5’s, too) or maybe—we’d just finish too high for that poll?🤢 ••• IT’S BEEN ONE HELLUVA’ WACKY YEAR FOR A PANDEMIC!🤪 Those who do most G5 college football magazine coverage or polls don’t seem to know how much our team has changed since last Fall because of the portal transfers blitz that has taken place in Denton since the Winter/Spring of 2021. I think we fared quite well truth be told. ••• Even some posters on GMG have yet to factor in all those new “P5-heavily recruited“ additions, either. ••• Some on GMG are even agreeing with a new Yahoo “how many wins in 2021” poll with almost giddy glee (it seems). I’d bet much of that group also said Mason Fine would never start at North Texas, either.

Both players need and will dominate this year. Shorter needs to stay healthy and the D line scheme needs to be get Novil in one on one. Our DE play last year may have been the worst I have seen which had a big impact on Novil. GMG

May have appeared that way as he played injured last season after being badly chop blocked against Rice.

Yes. He went to Mount Vernon and got in trouble right off the bat if I remember correctly.

This is almost worst case scenario territory. I’d be shocked if SL survived a season like this, and if he did, it would almost be an insult to the rest of us to see this guy continue coaching here because of his ridiculous salary being too high to buyout.

Yikes. Feel for the 2022 kids. NCAA has to step in and make a rule where transfers don’t count towards the 25-per class limit. Maybe say you get 25 HS/JUCO kids and 10 D1 transfers? Coupled with all these kids getting an extra season, there isn’t enough room in the 25 class spots or the 85 roster spots for 2022 kids.

I truly hope we don’t get to that place where we have to change coaches. I like SL and want him to succeed like nobody’s business…..BUT, if we stumble and a change is made….AND….Michigan does the same…..I would jump on the Jim Harbaugh train in a heartbeat. thoughts???

9-3, 10-2. We're continuing to improve but everyone else on our schedule is as well, including yourselves, and we haven't shown the ability to close out seasons yet. That being said, I'm looking at the 2022 season with big expectations.

Wow - that's crazy man! But conceivable....especially with PB here as well as Bloesch. Makes for a perfect landing pad. Beware though I can sense the church lady fans on here are rattling their sabres. And North Texas is such a woke place these days not sure it would fly with current leadership. I hate to admit that given the schedule I have thought about who would be the best next guy here. My guess is they will hire another McCarney type, old but with true FBS coaching experience. Seth required too much on the job training in hindsite.

Exciting times. I hope he lights it up.

When it comes down to wide receivers, Tampa Bay has about as deep a unit as any team. The Buccaneers feature Pro Bowlers Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Antonio Brown and Rob Gronkowski. Not to mention the team returns speedster Scotty Miller and tight ends Cameron Brate, OJ Howard. A potential surprise player that may see some time is rookie Jaelon Darden, who played collegiate ball at North Texas. Read more: https://www.hernandosun.com/article/tampa-bay-buccaneers-complete-strong-minicamp

Hometown for Carrie Underwood.