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  1. (C) I will always root for UNT to win no matter the circumstance and hope that our AD knows the best path forward better than me.
    41 points
  2. I'll start of by saying again that I am just a t-shirt fan of UNT. I don't have any real inside knowledge of the coming and goings from inside the UNT Athletic Department but I have been in the athletic business for 30 years and over this time have made some tremendous connections with both HS and college coaches/AD's. Seth has always struck me as the kind of guy I would like to hang out with at the ranch or go fishing with but he never struck me as the kind of guy that would inspire a program to be great. I truly believe he is a good man with a good heart but does not have the leadership qualities or personality to lead a program. There is nothing wrong with that (some people have it and some don't) unless he is your Head Coach. Going back to when UNT hired Dodge there was a collective "Oh Wow" expressed by HS coaches across the state. We were happy that one of our own had made it straight to the big time without going through the learning process. But at the same time we were apprehensive because Dodge was a maintainer and not a builder. He has been the HC at 6 different schools. He was tremendously successful at SL and Westlake both traditional powerhouses. At the other 4 schools he never had a season with a winning record. He then brought his whole staff with him. I believe that from an X and O standpoint there are many HS coaches that can hold their own in college. However, they were lost when it came to recruiting and the every day workings of a college program. Dodge had never built something from nothing. He has always taken a powerhouse and made them better and he is VERY good at it. I believe Dodge could have been successful if he would have brought in experienced college coaches that understood the ins and outs of running a college program. There are many successful college coaches that got their start in HS. They didn't just jump to the top, but worked their way up. Two examples of builders are Traylor and McGuire. Traylor took over Gilmer who had lost their way for several years and built them into a powerhouse (some may question how he built them) before moving up to college. Traylor is an X&O guy. He worked for several programs before finding his way to UTSA. None of the programs he was at were very successful in the W/L column. But you can learn a lot from seeing how not to do something. What he learned along the way no doubt is helping him create a winner. Joey McGuire was promoted to HC at Cedar Hill as a very young coach. He had never been a coordinator of any kind. When he took over Cedar Hill had never won a playoff game in their history. He built them into a traditional winner. Joey is a tremendous coach but he is a CEO who hired great coaches and let them coach. Spend 5 minutes with McGuire and you will be ready to run through a wall for him and feel like he is your best friend. His energy and personality is contagious and permeated throughout the entire program from the AD to the janitors. He was one of the first coaches Rhule hired at Baylor to help open doors for recruiting. A year later he was promoted to AHC. Joey turned down the UTSA job in hopes of getting the Baylor job. When Aranda was hired, Baylor made it a priority to keep him on staff as AHC. It wasn't easy as OU, Texas Tech, UT, and Carolina Panthers came calling. He has helped guide Baylor through two complete rebuilds under two great head coaches. He is ready now for his own program. If I was the UNT AD Joey would be at the top of my very short list. I know he is on Texas Tech's and will probably be on SMU's if they lose Dykes. Keeler would be my 2nd choice. I know he is older but he neither looks or acts it. He is a great coach that knows how to use the portal and get inside front doors in recruiting. Greenminer said he wanted to know the process that Baylor used to find Rhule and Aranda. Well Rhodes and Wren are extremely close friends. I'm sure there will be some brain picking going on IF and WHEN a time is needed for it.
    34 points
  3. Many of us knew @ntsumgspe, AKA Cary Lumkes, through Mean Green football. He was an avid fan and quick to make friends with everyone. He built a unique collection of selfies posing with opposing team mascots. Cary was on the steering committee of the Dallas Chapter of the UNT Alumni Association, but also would host football watching parties in Collin County when I wasn't able to do it myself. In Collin County, he was always the voice of "And that's good for another Mean Green...FIRST DOWN". Similarly, Cary was a fan of hockey. The Chicago Blackhawks were first in his heart, but the Dallas Stars were not far behind. He also frequented the Allen Americans hockey games (ECHL) and played for the Phantoms in an adult hockey league, that happened to play at the Allen Event Center where the Allen Americans play. Unfortunately we lost Cary in April of last year. I've since been working with the UNT Alumni Association on a way to memorialize Cary. I'm proud to say that on St. Patrick's Day of next year, the Collin County Chapter of the UNT Alumni Association will be hosting the First Annual Cary Lumkes Memorial UNT Night of Hockey with the Allen Americans. I'll post links to purchase tickets to this event once the link is available. The Allen Americans will be taking on the Tulsa Oilers at the Credit Union of Texas Event Center (formerly known as the Allen Event Center) in Allen. I hope you are able to join us.
    29 points
  4. Sorry to vent but I so wanted him to be successful here and he is such a nice person. His family loves being here and it just makes me sick that it didn’t work out. I guess I’m coming to the realization that it will soon be over but am hoping he will finish strong.
    28 points
  5. Slow down there. We still have one more win to go before we face off with the fightin road kill. FIU maybe be in a bad place right now we still need to show up on the road. It’s a trap game for us
    26 points
  6. The question isn’t now, and has never been, whether SL could get his team prepared enough to beat BAD teams (FIU has given up 45+ points a total of six times this season). The question is whether he can coach the team up to stay competitive with good teams in our league (nope, see UAB and Marshall games) or whether he can adjust and close out games where we lead (nope, see Liberty game). We have seen how high Littrell can take us. I think he is a great guy and even an excellent ambassador for our program…but the name of the game is winning, even if circumstances aren’t 100% perfect. As my officers tell me at least once a week, “that’s why they pay you the big bucks.”
    25 points
  7. I never hope for an NT loss, no matter what the circumstances. If a win means Littrell might be back, so be it. I still want us to win and beat UTSA.
    25 points
  8. Quit being so miserable
    23 points
  9. If your answer isn't win, log off, delete your account, and throw your phone in a river.
    23 points
  10. Someday our society will come to the conclusion that making coaches speak to the media is a waste of time for everyone involved.
    22 points
  11. What it is, ain't exactly clear...
    22 points
  12. Look at y’all. Can’t even enjoy a 4 game win streak for 24 hours before you have to tear it apart. It’s gotta be exhausting.
    21 points
  13. He is the Athletic Director, not the Football Director, responsible for the entire department. He has provided a clear vision of growth and has pretty much achieved everything he has set forth. Indoor Practice Facility? Check. Golf Practice Facility? Check. New Soccer/Track venue? Check. New/better conference? Check. Hiring a basketball coach to elevate the program? Check. Improvements to the Super Pit? Check. All programs improving? Pretty much everything except football and we are about to see him put his mark on this program as well. He has done more than any AD in our history and still has many items on his agenda to complete. I think this is well deserved and solidifies him as our AD for the foreseeable future.
    21 points
  14. If we were 10-0 with a no. 15 national ranking I would hope we would take up half of the alamodome if had to play them there
    20 points
  15. What's amazing about Fouts is that the structure in 2009 looked relatively unchanged from when the Spanish Conquistadors discovered it. Although overgrown with vegetation at the time, the indigenous people told legends about its ancient builders, probably the Clovis Peoples prior to the Younger Dryas impact event.
    20 points
  16. This team is a good Quarterback away from being conference contenders. This roster has talent. And has proven that we are extremely deep at both running back and WR. When Seth was hired we had arguably the worst roster top to bottom in college football. I had numerous coaches, analyst and players tell me that we didn’t even have a full division one roster. We are in MUCH better spot now. Whoever the coach is next year it will not be a complete rebuild. If they can address the QB position we should be able to hit the ground running next season. I don’t ever like to dog players. But the answer to our QB room is currently not on roster.
    20 points
  17. Why does everyone see wins like this, complain that they shouldn’t be grounds for Seth to retain his job because of the quality of opponent, then seem to ignore the possibility that Wren Baker could come to a similar conclusion?
    19 points
  18. Would be nice if people would pack this Pit just because North Texas is playing.
    19 points
  19. Most of the time, that is true. But there are very noteworthy exceptions.
    18 points
  20. Ok Mean Green fanbase, it's put your money where your mouth is time. - We asked for better opponents at Apogee...#15 in the country would seem to fit the bill - We asked for rivalries....like it or not, we don't like each other, there is a history with relevance (2013 game), and they're a fellow Texas "university" - We wanted a meaningful late season game...6 wins is bowl eligible, regardless of your feelings on how many bowls there are or how "deserving" we might be Yes, it's Thanksgiving weekend...unless "eating leftovers" counts as part of your holiday, GET YOUR ASS TO APOGEE Yes, it might rain...they created ponchos and rain gear a long, long time ago, so GET YOUR ASS TO APOGEE Yes, we are all upset with our coaching situation...these players aren't responsible for that and have reacted with their backs against the wall (and many key teammates injured), so GET YOUR ASS TO APOGEE Yes, it will be a bit chilly...they sell hoodies in the team store at Apogee and I'm sure you own long sleeved clothing, so GET YOUR ASS TO APOGEE I will be there tomorrow. Not because I'm ecstatic about where we are as a football program. Not because I love the uniform combination every week. I'll be there because I graduated from North Texas, this is MY team, and know that they stand a much better chance at securing a victory if Apogee is filled with loud, hostile, green-blooded fans.
    17 points
  21. San Antonio area code or average SAT score
    17 points
  22. In my opinion, Cobbs is the best RB coach in college football. Regardless of injuries or circumstances our RB corp continues to produce. The next man up philosophy works under Cobbs. He always has his guys ready on game day. However our coaching situation changes, I hope Cobbs remains at UNT. I would hate to see him on another team's sideline. Don't know want he earns, but the man deserves a raise. Thank you Patrick. You are a great coach and alum. Go Mean Green!
    17 points
  23. So Seth can beat bad teams...I've known this for a couple of years. I just wish he could beat .500+ teams.
    17 points
  24. Join @Harry and @TheReal_jayD as they visit with UNT athletic director Wren Baker who answers questions and and discusses some of the exciting stories and inside news from behind the scenes of the recent addition of North Texas to the American Athletic Conference. Direct audio link: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/gomeangreen/Wren_10.27.21_mixdown.mp3
    17 points
  25. Was out shopping with my wife and saw a guy decked out in UNT stuff with a sweet battle flag hat. Thought it was him but threw up the claw and gave him a Go Mean Green. He asked if I was alum and I said yes and he said he coached there. I asked him if he was coach DeLong and we talked a bit about the team. Told him losing Hope was a big blow but he said he had a couple pitchers with live arms and is expecting a good team for the next 2-3 seasons. Also told him I hoped we could hang on to him and he said his family loved Denton so much, they decided to stay even after being contacted by a Big 12 school. Seemed like a down to earth guy. Really happy we have him as our Softball coach and gives me hope that Wren will make a similar impactful hire for football.
    17 points
  26. SIKE!!!! GOTCHA!!!!! IN THE WORDS OF ED ORGERON "EFF THEM" UTSA SUCKS
    16 points
  27. But Littrell convinced Bennett to come out of retirement to fix the defense. Do you not give him any credit for that? We like to rip Littrell for his failed assistant hires so we need to credit him for the ones that work.
    16 points
  28. This is all true. What is also true is that if we beat a top 20, undefeated nutsack next week Wren cannot fire SL. It’s simply an untenable position to take.
    16 points
  29. He's right. There are/were a ton of injuries. Things could have gotten really bad. And I was full of gloom, too, because it didn't look like we would win another game. Things have turned around and there is credit to be handed out for that. I really want this coaching staff to have success here, because - They are here right now - I can't think of 2 better guys for these positions: - Phil Bennett is a defensive guru. He is in the perfect spot as a DC. - I love that Patrick Cobbs is our freaking RB coach. Those guys wouldn't be there without a HC that made that happen.
    16 points
  30. Never ever turn down an opportunity for a bowl game.
    16 points
  31. So you're actually upset we won?
    16 points
  32. Not only will I be rooting for UNT, but if a ranked UTSA rolls into town to play at Apogee, I'm canceling plans with the family and driving 5 hours to Denton to be at that game.
    16 points
  33. Gotta be honest. I don’t get the “Fuente is doing so bad at Virginia Tech he’s going to get fired so we can hire him” excitement.
    16 points
  34. They could hand out $100 cold hard cash at games and some of you would complain it’s not a gift card… smh
    16 points
  35. Said this in the game thread but my biggest positive takeaway here is that we’re starting to see the makings of the foundation of a good team. Big game for Detraveon Brown with 85 yards receiving. Next year when Bush and Shorter are back, Brown and Damon Ward as sophomore backups with a year under their belts and Thompson and Burns in the slot sounds like more receivers running open than what we’ve had so far. And Adeyi, Johnson, and Ragsdale with Adaway back sounds like a strong RB group. Defensively we’re starting to play well, going back to the Liberty game. A sack for Rod Brown who PFF has graded as one of the best Freshmen DTs in the country. Rod Brown, Enoch Jackson, and the Murphy twins all have 3 more years of eligibility left on the d-line. These guys are all starting to look like at least competent FBS players, and everyone I mentioned in this post has at least two, most of them three, years of eligibility left after this season. Win or loss, we’re starting to see these individuals make plays with consistency and play winning football. That’s the important takeaway here.
    16 points
  36. he literally just stopped coaching. TCU asked him to finish the year and he said 'nah, thas aight'
    16 points
  37. @Harry and @TheReal_jayDVery nice job. You realize you have set the bar really high. The pressure is on you to maintain the momentum. Thank you for all you do for the Mean Green fans.
    16 points
  38. My wife of 41 years is dated, but I love her dearly.
    16 points
  39. 15 points
  40. Apparently, Sonny Dykes isn't buying SMU's hype that they're going to the Big XII.
    15 points
  41. Enjoying the improved play across the board. Like that young players are contributing in big ways. Lack of penalties these past several weeks has been very encouraging and showed a more poised, “locked in” approach. Proud of the team for getting us in a position where this upcoming game actually matters. Let’s ruin UTSA’s season and punch our ticket to a bowl!
    15 points
  42. Would SMU have gotten Dykes if he was successful at Cal? Would La Tech have have gotten Holtz if he was successful at USF? The reality of G5 is that we either hope to hit on an unknown rising star coach or land a P5 retread. In this case, Fuente has been there, done that in G5
    15 points
  43. Is somebody going to assume Baker is candidate for every AD job that comes open?
    15 points
  44. I was shocked how full it was for the first non conference against a no name. Overall good energy in The Super Pit tonight.
    15 points
  45. And then, there goes our denial about us being a commuter school.
    15 points
  46. While everyone has mentioned UNT’s investment in facilities as key to the AAC invite, I thought that it was interesting to see USF pointing to UNT as an example that it needs to follow. https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bulls/2021/10/22/what-usf-football-can-learn-from-this-round-of-aac-expansion/?fbclid=IwAR1m3AFDlfNTTlrCy0ZZFNplCTSTW9omYuesipNSz6PWapmsdRPizXRVlok
    15 points


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