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BillySee58

Foundation of This Team - 2016-2018 Recruiting

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What I’d like to know is how many of the 17 transfers SMU brought in started or played last night?

Seems to me if they got a majority of the snaps then they were the difference from last years team to this one,...negating any reason to ever heavily recruit high school kids again.

I know of one without checking..Buechelle.

 

Rick

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2 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

What I’d like to know is how many of the 17 transfers SMU brought in started or played last night?

Seems to me if they got a majority of the snaps then they were the difference from last years team to this one,...negating any reason to ever heavily recruit high school kids again.

I know of one without checking..Buechelle.

 

Rick

And the corner from UCLA that was in Bussey’s jockstrap ALL NIGHT

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1 minute ago, TheColonyEagle said:

And the corner from UCLA that was in Bussey’s jockstrap ALL NIGHT

Ok that’s two.  Any more?  I’ll have to get on something better than my phone to list them out.

 

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It seemed like the TV broadcast mentioned at least 5-6 more.  I'm not sure, they loved the topic of how he was building his team from transfers though.

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Biggest difference for SMU last night was their QB play.  But some of us warned that would be the case.

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To Billy's point--as long as the QB play stays high, I think the recruiting results of the last couple of years is going to start to pay off.

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There's still a lot of season left...but if this works out for SMU....Dykes will be starting a trend for G5s

Transfers are going to continue to be more prevalent

 

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5 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

And the corner from UCLA that was in Bussey’s jockstrap ALL NIGHT

When a receiver gets two targets you cannot assess a corner had the receiver on lockdown. Bussey only had two targets due to Mason not getting the ball out quick enough.

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An even more worrisome thought:

Those same 2016-2018 recruits for UTSA are in the same boat, except Frank Wilson recruited much better than Littrell those years, and now they have their QB.

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if we went into Houston at 1-3

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27 minutes ago, American_Patriot said:

When a receiver gets two targets you cannot assess a corner had the receiver on lockdown. Bussey only had two targets due to Mason not getting the ball out quick enough.

He didn’t get the ball out quick enough because no one was open 

 

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1 hour ago, American_Patriot said:

When a receiver gets two targets you cannot assess a corner had the receiver on lockdown. Bussey only had two targets due to Mason not getting the ball out quick enough.

Well if the O line would give him more time, he could actually hit Bussey

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47 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

He didn’t get the ball out quick enough because no one was open 

 

A lot of things were bad for us last night INCLUDING Mason’s play. SMU played good defense but he missed a lot of throws you just can’t miss in a game like that. 

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1 hour ago, Mean Green Matt said:

A lot of things were bad for us last night INCLUDING Mason’s play. SMU played good defense but he missed a lot of throws you just can’t miss in a game like that. 

It's not easy to get a good throw when SMU defenders are in your face

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To a few points above. Mason fine certainly did not look like Mason Fine last night. The whole team played badly.

 

Including Mason Fine. 

I’m gonna say he would agree with that. 

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1 hour ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

It's not easy to get a good throw when SMU defenders are in your face

We can either be realistic about his performance or not. I love mason. But his play was a big part of why we lost so badly. I would not be shocked at all if he comes back and has an all conference season. 

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3 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Well if the O line would give him more time, he could actually hit Bussey

This comment lol 

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3 hours ago, American_Patriot said:

Seems like the aggregate of folks do not want to critique the Heisman candidate. In order to grow and become a high power team it is paramount to address all issues.

Luckily, we fans don't have to address the issues. We have coaches to do that job.

We just get to eat food, drink beer, donate and arm chair critique the best QB in school history.

Don't know that the growing into a higher power team is as much on us as it is the coaches and players. This is their team. They are the ones that will make it whatever it is.

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Negative or positive dialogue matters. This forum is here for this purpose to express thoughts and opinions. The ”Best QB in School history” can be critiqued and it can be negative despite the masses who disagree. 

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15 hours ago, LongJim said:

To Billy's point--as long as the QB play stays high, I think the recruiting results of the last couple of years is going to start to pay off.

we have 4 years of Seth and now a new OC that came with promises of TE use. Yet here we are, making questionable calls on 3rd and short and just...overall.  I think maybe we have seen Seth max out on philosophy and culture.  The only factor left to help us get over this hump is the up-tick in Jimmy-Joe’s.

this has been my one optimistic thought the last 24 hours.

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Last year's recruiting class was the first one since Dickey's great recruiting class in 2000ish that had TX HS recruits choosing us over legitimate G5 programs and being ranked fairly high in CUSA. It will pay off dividends later, but only if we have both a solid QB and a solid HFC. Otherwise, we will look like some combo of Dodge's teams (good QBs with no head coach) or Mac's teams (worst collection of QBs once DT left)...

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I wanted to make this exact topic Saturday I just couldn't bring myself to do it because I have been pointing this out all year amongst the kool-aid posts. We have missed in evaluating offensive and defensive linemen as well as linebackers, that much is easy to see but I can't get over how few DL players we have signed out of high school. 2016-1 2017-2(one gone) 2018- 2 (one gone) 2019- 3 (finally!) 2020- 2 commits. Trying to cover up those misses with JUCO players who don't have good offer sheets but have FBS ready bodies has not worked. They are getting pushed in to our young linebackers who are going to need a season to figure things out. I am not trashing the Davis boys I love that we are putting an emphasis on fast linebackers but we signed zero high school linebackers in Seth's first class (2016) and signed two in the second.. Thornton who has never seen the field and Fulp who left the program. That's hard to overcome.

This defense lost 4 (four!) guys who made it to NFL camps and we are now paying for missing so badly in 2016 and 2017 on front seven players. I still think we can have a good season against CUSA teams and possibly finish with 8 wins. I just hope we don't shit the bed and get stomped in a bowl game again.

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