MGB: Sunday night recruiting tidbit

[Green Lantern]

Barring signing day miracles, this just isn't CUSA Championship level recruiting, which is supposedly what we expect. That's being done by UTSA, MTSU, FIU, FAU and Southern Miss. The problem with many fans view of accepting low rated recruiting classes because "we have an X's and O's staff" is the fact that we're discounting that many other CUSA teams are also loaded with good X's and O's coaches...who also happen to recruit.

Some people see all this criticism as whining, whereas I actually find discussing this area of concern refreshing. Our fans are finally waking up and not accepting the same old excuses being trotted out there. 

It's ok to be encouraged by on the field performance last season and at the same time, be very concerned about our recruiting efforts. Doesn't make you a bad fan.

[forevereagle]

1 hour ago, UNT90 said:

What's the definition of insanity per Einstein?

Who knows? 

[UNT90]

2 minutes ago, forevereagle said:

Who knows? 

Then I'll take credit for saying it, because it's true.

[FirefightnRick]

 

 

Rick

[Green92]

Until we can prove that we can consistently put a good product on the field, we're going to lag behind in recruiting. There's not a snake oil salesman in the world that can change it. Be grateful for the kids that do take a chance and hope SL can out coach the competition.  

[UNT90]

11 minutes ago, Green92 said:

Until we can prove that we can consistently put a good product on the field, we're going to lag behind in recruiting. There's not a snake oil salesman in the world that can change it. Be grateful for the kids that do take a chance and hope SL can out coach the competition.  

Funny, because UTSA put almost the exact same product on the field and is kicking everyone's ass.

This is another tired excuse. It comes down to hiring assistants who can sell your program to young athletes. UTSA obviously did that, doesn't look like UNT did.

As to the bolded, THE most tired line used by UNT fans the last 30 some odd Februaries. It's complete BS. Strop hoping and start expecting and holding people accountable when those expectations aren't met.

Edited January 30, 2017 by UNT90

[Mean Green 93-98]

10 minutes ago, Green92 said:

Until we can prove that we can consistently put a good product on the field, we're going to lag behind in recruiting. There's not a snake oil salesman in the world that can change it. 

Bull.  UTSA finished the season one game ahead of us.  Yet they are absolutely destroying us in recruiting.  A one game difference does not account for a 17-3 lead in 3-star recruits.

[UNT90]

Thank God UTSA hired a coach at the same time as UNT to provide some measure of comparison, otherwise the same apologist as always would be on here telling us how poor little ole UNT can't be expected to do much more.

[Cerebus]

1 hour ago, Eagle-96 said:

Four Conference championships didn't help. 

I think those four conference championships, if they had been coupled with excellent administrative leadership, could have been the spark that turned us into a Boise St type of program. 

Instead, you all read the consultants report, that is not the level of leadership we got.   When your AD refuses to schedule home and homes with P5s because that would  require being creative to not get swamped by visiting fans, when his employees tell the consultants that that they felt lost and leaderless, when the AD ignores fan complaints year after year about simple things like customer service and ticket sales, when that AD can't even heal a personal rift with your most successful coach, and on on... that is how you squander four conference championships.  

 

1 hour ago, Eagle-96 said:

HOD Bowl's didn't help.

You mean the HoD Bowl we won that resulted in LOWER Mean Green Club membership the next year?  I never found anyone who could come close to defending that happening. 

[GTWT]

1 hour ago, Green Lantern said:

Some people see all this criticism as whining, ...

 

This.

[UNT90]

8 minutes ago, GTWT said:

This.

Waiting for you to spin this. I'm sure it's coming.

Rah rah rah sis boom bah.

[GTWT]

2 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Waiting for you to spin this. I'm sure it's coming.

Rah rah rah sis boom bah.

It's not that hard '90. 

[UNT90]

Just now, GTWT said:

It's not that hard '90. 

Well then, out with the spin...

[TheReal_jayD]

[MeanGreenTexan]

Just now, TheReal_jayD said:

You know things are not going well when even JayD posts something like this...

[Cerebus]

9 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

You know things are not going well when even JayD posts something like this...

[GTWT]

I'll be interested in who we sign on Wednesday.  It won't matter though what I think about our signees.  Like nearly everyone on this board I am ignorant about college athletics.  None of us will know whether this class was successful for three, four, or even five years.  At that time it won't matter whether a kid has 4 stars or 5 offers from UT, Alabama, & the ilk.   In the meantime I'll be rooting for each and everyone of the kids that sign with my school.

Edited January 30, 2017 by GTWT

[Aldo]

5 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Well then, out with the spin...

[Cerebus]

[UNT90]

3 minutes ago, GTWT said:

I'll be interested in who we sign on Wednesday.  It won't matter though what I think about our signees.  Like nearly everyone on this board I am ignorant about college athletics.  None of us will know whether this class was successful for three, four, or even five years.  At that time it won't matter whether a kid has 4 stars or 5 offers from UT, Alabama, & the ilk.   In the meantime I'll be rooting for each and everyone of the kids that sign with my school.

Really, because we have had mostly crap classes that have led to mostly crap football teams. I guess you can't see the correlation.

But, by all means, rah rah rah sis boom bah.

[MeanGreenTexan]

I wonder if it really is this bad?   

Or, are we being beaten-down with Benford-ball and taking it out on poor Seth & Co?  

I mean, it's clearly not going well, but is fearful, downtrodden, sarcastic reaction warranted?

[UNT90]

1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I wonder if it really is this bad?   

Or, are we being beaten-down with Benford-ball and taking it out on poor Seth & Co?  

I mean, it's clearly not going well, but is fearful, downtrodden, sarcastic reaction warranted?

Billy compared it to McCarney's 2012 class. That's bad. I mean, unless there is a series of miracles in the next 3 days.

I think basketball just exasperates the feeling of "can't UNT just get one thing right one time?!?! Ever?!?!"

[MeanGreen_MBA]

10 minutes ago, GTWT said:

I'll be interested in who we sign on Wednesday.  It won't matter though what I think about our signees.  Like nearly everyone on this board I am ignorant about college athletics.  None of us will know whether this class was successful for three, four, or even five years.  At that time it won't matter whether a kid has 4 stars or 5 offers from UT, Alabama, & the ilk.   In the meantime I'll be rooting for each and everyone of the kids that sign with my school.

THIS!!!!!

[Eagle-96]

34 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

I think those four conference championships, if they had been coupled with excellent administrative leadership, could have been the spark that turned us into a Boise St type of program. 

Instead, you all read the consultants report, that is not the level of leadership we got.   When your AD refuses to schedule home and homes with P5s because that would  require being creative to not get swamped by visiting fans, when his employees tell the consultants that that they felt lost and leaderless, when the AD ignores fan complaints year after year about simple things like customer service and ticket sales, when that AD can't even heal a personal rift with your most successful coach, and on on... that is how you squander four conference championships.  

 

You mean the HoD Bowl we won that resulted in LOWER Mean Green Club membership the next year?  I never found anyone who could come close to defending that happening. 

Glad Kuehne pulled back the curtain on what we all thought was going on only to have it confirmed with yet ANOTHER kick to the nards. It was a tough pill to swallow and even tougher knowing what we could have been(the sleeping giant tried to get out of bed in the early oughts bu RV just kept adding blankets to the bed). But hey we do have a whole case full of "Coming In Under Budget" trophies thanks to RV. I know I am proud of those. 

 

[MeanGreen_MBA]

8 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Really, because we have had mostly crap classes that have led to mostly crap football teams. I guess you can't see the correlation.

But, by all means, rah rah rah sis boom bah.

@GTWT, the Grinch was loosely patterned after 90....  He will get his heart as soon as UNT wins The C in the next year or 2....