New QB Quinn Shanbour showing up on workout reports

[UNT90]

Will he have to sit this season or is he immediately eligible?

[DeepGreen]

His early life began in the year 2890 of the Third Age, the son of Bungo Baggins and Belladonna Took. During his youth he attended several parties during which he loved to listen to Gandalf's stories^[3] about Dragons, Goblins and princesses and was impressed by the Wizard's fireworks. After the death of his parents, respectively in T.A. 2926 and T.A. 2934, he inherited Bag End. In the eyes of his neighbors, he originally seemed just like his father, a solid, sensible, unadventurous and respectable hobbit.^[4] But when becoming older he started to become "strange" and often left his home for many days to meet with strangers, including Dwarves.

Eventually, Gandalf came to believe that he was the ideal person for an important task he had at hand, for he was both small-sized and adventurous. Gandalf came to the Shire to visit him in T.A. 2941 but he had disappeared again because of Elven new year.

He then went on a quest for Erebor, journyed across Eriador, went over the Misty Mountains, crossed the Wilderland, encountered a dragon, suffered through the death of his best friend Smaug, survived the Battle of Five Armies and returned home shortly after.

I hope that help to clear it up for you.

O.K. I'm with you now. It was the Shire visit that I had missed. Thanks for the clarification.

[eulessismore]

My apologies, my cut and paste screwed up (operator error), here are Shanbour's highlights, if interested:

Heritage Hall: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/658675/quinn-shanbour

Choate Rosemary Hall: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/1559928/quinn-shanbour

Thanks for the links, and welcome to the board, OKC Green.

[Danish43]

Thanks for the links, and welcome to the board, OKC Green.

Same here OKC Green.

[OKC-Green]

He sat out last year while at UNT, so I think he would be illegible this year as a redshirt freshman.

[OKC-Green]

Thanks guys. There are a lot of quality players in Oklahoma who fly under the radar because they don't match the prototypical physical stature but are helluva players. Tulsa has feasted on players such as these. Hopefully, UNT being very close can take advantage of this situation in conjunction with pulling quality players out of the DFW area.

[eulessismore]

He sat out last year while at UNT, so I think he would be illegible this year as a redshirt freshman.

If he's already sat out a year, wouldn't he be eligible this (2014) year?

[OKC-Green]

Those are my thoughts too euless.

[GrayEagle]

I thought that he walked on at Okie State last year. If so, I believe that he must sit out a year even if he transferred after the fall semester.

If that's a fact his first year was at OSU, his second year is sitting here and he would have three years of eligibility left to finish in three years.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/197/oklahoma-state-cowboys

Checked it out and sure enough there he is...#14 on your program.

Edited February 24, 2014 by GrayEagle

[OKC-Green]

He didn't go to OSU for a whole year. He was at OSU for only 1 semester (the spring semester). He was at Choate Rosemary Hall, the fall semester prior to joining OSU in the spring. He enrolled at UNT and was a student this past fall semester.

[GrayEagle]

He didn't go to OSU for a whole year. He was at OSU for only 1 semester (the spring semester). He was at Choate Rosemary Hall, the fall semester prior to joining OSU in the spring. He enrolled at UNT and was a student this past fall semester.

I posted the 2013 roster (last season) and he was on the squad then. He must sit out the 2014 (this) season. He will then be eligible in 2015.

If he was only there one semester it had to be the fall semester.

[OKC-Green]

The UNT roster or the OSU roster? And if the OSU roster for the fall, then they did not change their roster. Because I know guys who were in his classes at UNT this past fall semester.

[emmitt01]

He sat out last year while at UNT, so I think he would be illegible this year as a redshirt freshman.

He has bad handwriting?

[Rudy]

I can't figure out where the hell this kid started out, where all he went, and what sort of eligibility he has. I've seen "Heritage Hall", a basketball picture with a "Stillwater" jersey, and some mention of a prep school and finally Connecticut.

You know......I think the term "circuitous route" was originally coined to describe most college football players.

Can someone please put this young man's journey into linear terms for me.

Hang on, let me dust off my old graphing calculator from high school...

[Cr1028]

On 2/23/2014 at 10:44 AM, OKC-Green said:

Shanbour is a quality player and will benefit the team both athletically and academically. During high school he only played his Sr. season at Heritage Hall (the same school that an undersized Wes Welker graduated from) where he broke the school's single season passing record (37 TDs with only 4 int.). In fact, one of his passes made ESPN's play of the day where he threw a 70 yard bomb to Barry Sanders Jr. Of course, it helps having Barry Jr. and Sterling Shepard (now at OU) on the team. Despite his single season accomplishment combined with the fact that he is 5'11 or 6 foot, he didn't receive many looks from D1 schools and so as not to burn D1 eligibility he opted for Choate Rosemary Hall and continued his performance and was named All New England QB. He received a lot of attention from Ivy League schools. However, when OSU made a preferred walk on offer for Spring ball, he followed his heart and joined the team in the Spring of 2013. He was invited back for Fall Camp reserved for scholarship players. During a scrimmage, he had a severe turf toe injury which would have sidelined him most of the fall season so OSU decided to by pass him and opt for other taller QBs. North Texas in turn has offered him an opportunity. Got to credit the kid, he refuses to give up. He will be a redshirted Freshman. Here are highlights of him while at Heritage Hall and Choate:

The Shanbour story

[MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF]

1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

The Shanbour story

2011:  Played his only season of high school ball.

2012:  Went the prep school route currently being used by at least one Florida quarterback we know of who also had about zero offers out of high school.

2013:  Sat on Oklahoma State's bench as a walk-on.

2014:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

2015:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

Am I interpreting that correctly?

Edited June 7, 2016 by MeanGreenMailbox

[risinggreen]

9 minutes ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

2011:  Played his only season of high school ball.

2012:  Went the prep school route currently being used by at least one Florida quarterback we know of who also had about zero offers out of high school.

2013:  Sat on Oklahoma State's bench as a walk-on.

2014:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

2015:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

Am I interpreting that correctly?

I see an offer from Colorado and Northwestern State out of high school. Also, Choate counts as his second year as a high school starter. They don't play Texas high school football up there but it's competitive. I have a relative who took that route and played against Choate.

[Cr1028]

9 minutes ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

2011:  Played his only season of high school ball.

2012:  Went the prep school route currently being used by at least one Florida quarterback we know of who also had about zero offers out of high school.

2013:  Sat on Oklahoma State's bench as a walk-on.

2014:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

2015:  Sat on our bench as a walk-on.

Am I interpreting that correctly?

Yes if you assess Morris as:

2010: Plays first year of high school ball

2011: Plays second year of high school ball

2012: Sat on Alabama bench as a redshirt

2013: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd or 4th string qb

2014: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd string qb

2015: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd string qb

[Aldo]

6 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Yes if you assess Morris as:

2015: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd string qb

*with an Alabama scholarship.

I know everyone's going to be talking around each other.

Reality is, no one freaking knows how this will play out in the Fall.

• Maybe Morris is the next UNT savior. Maybe Shanbour is the next Flutie.
• Maybe they're both average (this is the situation I would hope for)
• Maybe they both suck.

We don't know.

Truth is, we needed to bring in someone fast because the staff didn't have time to develop someone (so not a 4 or 5 star HS QB) when they realized that the best QB they had on the roster was a WALK-ON.

Edited June 7, 2016 by Aldo

[baberuthbomber8]

4 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Yes if you assess Morris as:

2010: Plays first year of high school ball

2011: Plays second year of high school ball

2012: Sat on Alabama bench as a redshirt

2013: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd or 4th string qb

2014: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd string qb

2015: Sat on Alabama bench as 3rd string qb

He backed up one of the better QBs in th SEC, and was the #2 QB as well on multiple national championship teams, oh and practiced with some of the top QBs in the nation... UNT QBs have done what in recent years that compare to BAMA QBs??

[MeanGreenTexan]

Wasn't Sokol a 3rd stringer at Iowa when he came in at LATech?   He was pretty good for LATech.  
If Morris can be anywhere near as productive as Sokol was for Skip, we'll be just fine.

[baberuthbomber8]

Diskell the LA Tech QB last year was the top HS QB and backed up at Florida, then transferred..

[MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF]

I see.  We have now entered the alternative universe where one year of 3A football in Oklahoma is as competitive as two years of 6A football in Texas.  And, further, that having a scholarship at Alabama is the same as wandering off to a Connecticut prep school, then walking on at two colleges.

Edited June 7, 2016 by MeanGreenMailbox

[foutsrouts]

11 minutes ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

I see.  We have now entered the alternative universe where one year of 3A football in Oklahoma is as competitive as two years of 6A football in Texas.  And, further, that having a scholarship at Alabama is the same as wandering off to a Connecticut prep school, then walking on at two colleges.

Yeah, guys like Romo, Fitzpatrick, Warner and many others should all be ashamed of themselves for trashing out the NFL the way they have. I mean, they weren't wanted by any FBS teams, much less Holy Alabama, so they should all just curl up in a ball and cry for having success that they weren't entitled to. Shame shame shame. 

[MeanGreenMailbox aka TFLF]

Again...apples and oranges.  The guys you name actually started at QB in college:

Romo:  http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3357
Fitzpatrick:  http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=1259
Warner:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Warner

Name the college where Shanbour started within four years?  Played at all, at any time?  You see why these are apples and oranges-type of comparisons yet?

I'm supposed to throw into the mix Shanbour not even being able to crack a kneel down in college four years out of high school to Romo, Fitzgerald, and Warner because those guys were I-AA? 

Saying Shanbour is short but it doesn't matter is different than saying, say, Russell Wilson is shorter but still made to the NFL.  Wilson actually started at two different colleges http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/russell-wilson-1.html...after taking a redshirt season.  A starter as a redshirt freshman at NC State.  That story line doesn't strike you as different at all than Shanbour's just because they both list a 5'11"?

Again, were not into any type of well trod territory here with Shanbour.  But, because we are UNT fans, starved for any type of football success, we're going to elevate him into some sort of mythical status based on...nothing really.  A spring game that our new head coach said wasn't really even a spring game?

Sheesh.

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