No. 1-128 College Football Rankings

[brooks91]

https://campusinsiders.com/news/1-128-college-football-rankings-final-2016-17-edition-01-10-2017/?utm_source=ci+fb&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Campus+Insiders

Campus Insiders has our final ranking at number 90.

[UNT Mean Green]

51 minutes ago, brooks91 said:

https://campusinsiders.com/news/1-128-college-football-rankings-final-2016-17-edition-01-10-2017/?utm_source=ci+fb&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Campus+Insiders

Campus Insiders has our final ranking at number 90.

For whatever these lists are worth after the Top 25-40, this seems slightly low. Maybe in the high 70's to low 80's. 

Hope to (and believe that we will) make a considerable jump in 2017!

[wardly]

At least we are down to double digits.

[forevereagle]

In case anyone is curious, USA Today has us ranked at 83 in their final rankings.

[VideoEagle]

I would think we are in the mid to lower 80s based on our final record which is right where USA Today puts us. But the Campus Insiders ranking isn't way off either, just behind Missouri and just ahead of Oregon State. Personally I put more credence in USA Today than Campus Insiders. 

 

[Aldo]

80 or 90, it's an improvement. Let's hope to see more of it next year. 

We can be way better than 80 or 90

[oldguystudent]

USA Today's preseason poll had us at 125, so at the very least, we've earned some modicum of respect.  

[Graddean]

I think this has some importance as regards the perception of our football program.  We are no longer seen as one of the worst by outsiders.  Where you end the season has a lot to do with where you start the next preseason. These ratings may have little validity with the real quality of the teams, but it is important for the perception of the program.  Next year even better.

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, oldguystudent said:

USA Today's preseason poll had us at 125, so at the very least, we've earned some modicum of respect.  

Why does this list say we've only improved one spot since the preseason poll?  (That is what "Change" means, right?)

[UTSA Fan]

I read Sagarin had a rating of 146. How is that right? Is that a typo? Aren't there 128 teams? What does this mean and who is Sagarin?

[oldguystudent]

5 minutes ago, UTSA Fan said:

I read Sagarin had a rating of 146. How is that right? Is that a typo? Aren't there 128 teams? What does this mean and who is Sagarin?

Sagarin doesn't differentiate between FBS and FCS.

[FirefightnRick]

Now.....you can't have Navy with 1 more win than Army, including a loss to Army, and still rank the middies 39 spots ahead of Army.

 

 

Rick

[JesseMartin]

2 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

Now.....you can't have Navy with 1 more win than Army, including a loss to Army, and still rank the middies 39 spots ahead of Army.

 

 

Rick

If they're taking into account the entire season, they probably gave some consideration to their late season injuries. Just a guess as to why...not that it has any real bearing on me or anything!

[Eagle-96]

14 hours ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

Why does this list say we've only improved one spot since the preseason poll?  (That is what "Change" means, right?)

Assuming it is the change since the previous weeks poll as opposed to the entire seasons change.

[wardly]

Jeff Sagarin is, in my opinion, has the most accurate rating system in sports. He was a math major at M.I.T., and has been doing this for a long time.

[oldguystudent]

45 minutes ago, wardly said:

Jeff Sagarin is, in my opinion, has the most accurate rating system in sports. He was a math major at M.I.T., and has been doing this for a long time.

I've been following his predicted score differentials against the Vegas spread for quite some time.  The guy is really, really good. 

[untjim1995]

What is our rank among G5s? That's what really matters for comparative reasons in polls like this.

Edited January 11, 2017 by untjim1995

[oldguystudent]

34 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

What is our rank among G5s? That's what really matters for comparative reasons in polls like this.

I did this manually and left out BYU.  It was a bit difficult since the rankings in the link are bottom to top.  I get 31 out of 59:  If I missed something, I've got it in a table and can easily update. 

1		W. Mich
2		USF
3		San Diego St
4		Tulsa
5		Boise St
6		Navy
7		Houston
8		Air Force
9		Toledo
10		LaTech
11		Troy
12		Western KY
13		Temple
14		MTSU
15		Wyoming
16		App St.
17		Old Dominion
18		New Mexico
19		Memphis
20		Ark St
21		Army
22		UCF
23		Southern Miss
24		Idaho
25		Miami, OH
26		UTSA
27		S. Alabama
28		E. Mich
29		C. Mich
30		SMU
31		UNT
32		Akron
33		Ga Southern
34		La Lafayette
35		Hawaii
36		Tulane
37		Nevada
38		Ball St
39		Uconn
40		ECU
41		N. Illinois
42		Utah St
43		Charlotte
44		UNLV
45		FIU
46		La Monroe
47		FAU
48		Marshall
49		Bowling Green
50		Ga St
51		Kent St
52		San Jose St
53		UTEP
54		Umass
55		New Mexico St
56		Buffalo
57		Rice
58		Texas St
59		Fresno St

Edited January 12, 2017 by oldguystudent

[untjim1995]

2 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

I did this manually and left out BYU.  It was a bit difficult since the rankings in the link are bottom to top.  I get 31 out of 59:  If I missed something, I've got it in a table and can easily update. 

1		W. Mich
2		USF
3		San Diego St
4		Tulsa
5		Boise St
6		Navy
7		Houston
8		Air Force
9		Toledo
10		LaTech
11		Troy
12		Western KY
13		Temple
14		MTSU
15		Wyoming
16		App St.
17		Old Dominion
18		New Mexico
19		Memphis
20		Ark St
21		Army
22		UCF
23		Southern Miss
24		Idaho
25		Miami, OH
26		UTSA
27		S. Alabama
28		E. Mich
29		C. Mich
30		SMU
31		UNT
32		Akron
33		Ga Southern
34		La Lafayette
35		Hawaii
36		Tulane
37		Nevada
38		Ball St
39		Uconn
40		ECU
41		N. Illinois
42		Utah St
43		Charlotte
44		UNLV
45		FIU
46		La Monroe
47		FAU
48		Marshall
49		Bowling Green
50		Ga St
51		Kent St
52		San Jose St
53		UTEP
54		Umass
55		New Mexico St
56		Buffalo
57		Rice
58		Texas St
59		Fresno St

Thanks, Oldguy!!

[UNT90]

On January 10, 2017 at 6:27 PM, FirefightnRick said:

Now.....you can't have Navy with 1 more win than Army, including a loss to Army, and still rank the middies 39 spots ahead of Army.

 

 

Rick

I think you can. These rankings are for the complete season. Army beat Navy with Navy's 2 best players hurt. Navy had quality wins that Army couldn't match. 

I guess it depends on if you consider the ranking being fr the team on the field after the bowl game or for the complete body of work of said team.

13 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

What is our rank among G5s? That's what really matters for comparative reasons in polls like this.

Sigh... It pains me to see our own fans  dumbing down expectations. There are no G5 rankings.

Thank God.

Edited January 12, 2017 by UNT90

[Quoner]

15 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Sigh... It pains me to see our own fans  dumbing down expectations. There are no G5 rankings.

Thank God.

I get this - I often weep bitterly whenever a 3rd or 4th place network trumpets how they are performing with target demographics at certain times of day. Demand better, NBC, you stupid losers. 

[oldguystudent]

People paid attention in the days when UNT was in the College Insider Mid-Major top 25.  I don't see much difference here.  G5 are our current peers, like it or not.  At the beginning of the season, we were at or very near dead last.  At the end of the season, we set the median.  That's measurable progress against like competition.  I don't think that means the end game aspirations, but it's a great tool to see how things are moving along in present day. 

[UNT90]

Measurable progress was making a bowl game, not some imaginary ranking. 

Just sayin...

Edited January 12, 2017 by UNT90

[Quoner]

13 minutes ago, UNT90 said:

Measurable progress was making a bowl game, not some imaginary ranking. 

Just sayin...

I am pretty impressed at the lengths you'll go to make this an argument when everyone agrees. It's a rare gift.