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Some of you act like you prefer Littrell not get the bonuses. Bonuses are tied to performance or record, much better than bumping up salaries from an employer prospectus.

Just take a look: Date Opponent What the scoreboard said Did we actually win? Overall, season moral record 9/3/16 SMU* L 21–34 No, but closer than expected for a previous 1-win team 1-0 9/10/2016 Bethune-Cookman* W 41–20 Yes 2-0 9/17/2016 at No. 23 Florida* L 0–32 No, but kept a ranked SEC team to 32 points 3-0 9/24/2016 at Rice W 42–35 2OT Yes 4-0 10/1/2016 Middle Tennessee L 13–30 No 4-1 10/8/2016 Marshall W 38–21 Yes 5-1 10/22/2016 at Army* W 35–18 Yes 6-1 10/29/2016 at UTSA L 17–31 No 6-2 11/5/2016 Louisiana Tech L 24–45 No 6-3 11/12/2016 at WKU L 7–45 No 6-4 11/19/2016 Southern Miss W 29–23 Yes 7-4 11/26/2016 at UTEP L 24–52 No, but that Aaron Jones guy is unstoppable 8-4 12/27/2016 vs. Army* L 31–38 OT No, but almost did 9-4 9/2/2017 Lamar* W 59–14 Yes 10-4, 1-0 9/9/2017 at SMU* L 32–54 No 10-5, 1-1 9/16/2017 at Iowa* L 14–31 No, but kept score respectable 11-5, 2-1 9/23/2017 UAB W 46–43 Yes 12-5, 3-1 9/30/2017 at Southern Miss W 43–28 Yes 13-5, 4-1 10/24/2017 UTSA W 29–26 Yes 14-5, 5-1 10/21/2017 at Florida Atlantic L 31–69 No, but 69... nice! 15-5, 6-1 10/28/2017 Old Dominion W 45–38 Yes 16-5, 7-1 11/4/2017 at Louisiana Tech W 24–23 Yes 17-5, 8-1 11/11/2017 UTEP W 45–10 Yes 18-5, 9-1 11/18/2017 Army* W 52–49 Yes 19-5, 10-1 11/25/2017 at Rice W 30–14 Yes 20-5, 11-1 12/2/2017 at Florida Atlantic L 17–41 No, but gave up less than 69 21-5, 12-1 12/16/2017 vs. Troy* L 30–50 No, but Mason Fine got hurt 22-5, 13-1 9/1/2018 SMU* W 46–23 Yes 23-5, 1-0 9/8/2018 Incarnate Word* W 58–16 Yes 24-5, 2-0 9/15/2018 at Arkansas* W 44–17 Yes 25-5, 3-0 9/22/2018 at Liberty* W 47–7 Yes 26-5, 4-0 9/29/2018 Louisiana Tech L 27–29 No, but that crowd tho 27-5, 5-0 10/16/2018 at UTEP W 27–24 Yes 28-5, 6-0 10/13/2018 Southern Miss W 30–7 Yes 29-5, 7-0 10/20/2018 at UAB L 21–29 No 29-6, 7-1 10/27/2018 Rice W 41–17 Yes 30-6, 8-1 11/10/2018 at Old Dominion L 31–34 No 30-7, 8-2 11/15/2018 Florida Atlantic W 41–38 Yes 31-7, 9-2 11/24/2018 at UTSA W 24–21 Yes 32-7, 10-2 12/15/2018 vs. Utah State* L 13–52 No 32-8, 10-3 8/31/2019 Abilene Christian* W 51–31 Yes 33-8, 1-0 9/7/2019 at SMU* L 27–49 No 33-9, 1-1 9/14/2019 at California* L 17–23 No, but close score against P5 34-9, 2-1 9/21/2019 UTSA W 45–3 Yes 35-9, 3-1 9/28/2019 Houston* L 25–46 No 35-10, 3-2 10/12/2019 at Southern Miss L 27–45 No 35-11, 3-3 10/19/2019 Middle Tennessee W 33–30 Yes 36-11, 4-3 10/26/2019 at Charlotte L 38–39 No 36-12, 4-4 11/2/2019 UTEP W 52–26 Yes 37-12, 5-4 11/9/2019 at Louisiana Tech L 17–52 No 37-13, 5-5 11/23/2019 at Rice L 14–20 No 37-14, 5-6 11/30/2019 UAB L 21–26 No, but close enough effort against division winner 38-14, 6-6 9/5/2020 Houston Baptist* W 57–31 Yes 39-14, 1-0 9/19/2020 SMU* L 35–65 No 39-15, 1-1 10/3/2020 Southern Miss L 31–41 No 39-16, 1-2 10/10/2020 Charlotte L 21–49 No 39-17, 1-3 10/17/2020 at Middle Tennessee W 52–35 Yes 40-17, 2-3 11/21/2020 Rice W 27–17 Yes 41-17, 3-3 11/18/2020 at UTSA L 17–49 No 41-18, 3-4 12/3/2020 Louisiana Tech L 31–42 No 41-19, 3-5 12/11/2020 UTEP W 45–43 Yes 42-19, 4-5 12/21/2020 vs. Appalachian State* L 28–56 No, but did anyone expect us to? Woohoo another bowl! 43-19, 5-5 9/4/2021 Northwestern State* W 44–14 Yes 44-19, 1-0 9/11/2021 at SMU* L 12–35 No, but held them for solid 1.5 qtrs 45-19, 2-0 9/18/2021 UAB L 6–40 No 45-20, 2-1 9/25/2021 at Louisiana Tech L 17–24 No, but very close 46-20, 3-1 10/9/2021 at Missouri* L 35–48 No, but put up points 47-20, 4-1 10/15/2021 Marshall L 21–49 No 47-21, 4-2 10/23/2021 Liberty* L 26–35 No, but they're a powerhouse now? 48-21, 5-2 10/30/2021 at Rice W 30–24 OT Yes 49-21, 6-2 11/6/2021 at Southern Miss W 38–14 Yes 50-21, 7-2 11/13/2021 UTEP W 20–17 Yes 51-21, 8-2 11/20/2021 at FIU W 49–7 Yes 52-21, 9-2 11/17/2021 No. 22 UTSA W 45–23 Yes 53-21, 10-2 12/23/2021 vs. Miami (OH)* L 14–27 No 53-22, 10-3 8/27/2022 at UTEP W 31–13 Yes 54-22, 1-0 9/3/2022 SMU* L 10–48 No 54-23, 1-1 9/10/2022 Texas Southern* W 59–27 Yes 55-23, 2-1 9/17/2022 at UNLV* L 27–58 No 55-24, 2-2 9/24/2022 at Memphis* L 34–44 No, but we can hang with those guys 56-24, 3-2 10/1/2022 Florida Atlantic W 45–28 Yes 57-24, 4-2 10/15/2022 Louisiana Tech W 47–27 Yes 58-24, 5-2 10/22/2022 at UTSA L 27–31 No, but he was short on 4th down 59-24, 6-2 10/29/2022 at Western Kentucky W 40–13 Yes 60-24, 7-2 11/5/2022 FIU W 52–14 Yes 61-24, 8-2 11/12/2022 at UAB L 21–41 No 61-25, 8-3 11/26/2022 Rice W 21-17 Yes 62-25, 9-3 In his 7 seasons, Seth has morally accomplished: .713 moral winning percentage Half of UNT's bowl moral victories with 3-2 record 1 moral conference championship 19-game moral win streak from 2017-18 No losing seasons School record 13 victories (moral included) in 2017 To be fair, you can argue you'd like to have a better moral record against rival SMU (3-4), his winning percentage has dipped since Mason Fine graduated (.686), and that it was disappointing we were not invited to a moral bowl in Fine's last season. But that should do little to take away from everything else he has done!! Extend him NOW! Start sketches for the statue NOW! Rename Bonnie Brae to Seth Littrell Way NOW!

I missed the second half. Disappointing loss. But the rest of the nonconference schedule looks winnable and you've got dogshit UTSA to open up conference play to get this team gelling. Hope the guys had fun, though hopefully the tournament we attend next year has a better media partner. Now if you excuse me, I have a date with a lovely model I met online tonight.

If true, he'll be fired in less than 5 years and people will wonder what happened. Well, it took him 7 seasons to do better than a 7-win season at Tulane but it looks like he built a real winner. Most programs would have fired him last season when they went 2-10. Good coaches like him flop at the P5 because the AD/boosters aren't patient enough. That said, at 62, this is probably his last big pay-day. Good for him.

I thought this thread was gonna be about a golf tournament

This isn’t an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure!

I guess transfer? Maybe you'll get a better NIL package to go elsewhere.

So, you're saying we had a chance to get rid of Seth easily and Bernardo ruined it for us??

This is true, but this seems to be the way conferences are going to determine the teams for the championship games. Divisions are going away. We really didn’t backdoor in any more than Washington in the PAC 12 or KSt. in the Big 12.

I think this is a false sense of urgency. Coaches and players are going to continue to shuffle in the coming weeks. Waiting until after the CCG will be fine. There are 131 FBS jobs, and with the facilities upgrades that have happened over the last few years and the commitment from administration at UNT, this is a better job than it was 8 years ago. There will be good candidates who want this job should it open up. I think that, should a change in leadership of the FB program be made, next year is going to be another tough year no matter who takes over.

I am fairly certain Taggart isn't going to be the 2023 coach at Georgia Tech.

NT's Moral Trophy Case is pretty extensive: Just look at all of that moral hardware! Incredible! #blessed

Who are the big money donor that are in love with Seth? I keep seeing that on this board. But I feel it has zero validity.

We hate you're here too. Try the transfer portal...asap!

He may not deserve "Player of the Game"/MVP, but his play on that last punt (both in handling the ball and getting off a good punt) may have saved the game.

Yeah, I don't think there's "too late" or "too soon" anymore. I think with all these new transfer rules and portal moves, it's become too fluid to say there are any deadlines.

Case in point on why mid-season firings will and should become the norm.

It wasn't the refs, or fatigue.... It was the damn black costumes, the same ones that almost got us beaten by Rice in football. PLAY IN OFFICIAL SCHOOL COLORS, NEVER PLAY AGAIN IN A TERTIARY COLOR!

You'd think that the Littrell family would have more to do on a holiday weekend than spam a message board.

why do people harp on attendance so much? it was rainy, a bit cold, so of course fair weather folks did not show up for this game. who gives a shit. if you were there, it was an awesome game. i do not understand attendance talk and whining about it. i have a guy in a text thread that bitches about it all the time, yet rarely shows up. who cares. if you want to be there, get there...if not, shut up and do not worry about it.

Any doubts I had in your logic were put to rest by the pretty table with a preponderance of reassuring green.

The window to get rid of Seth has passed. The transfer portal opens on December 5th. We will be playing in the conference championship a few days before it. There’s not enough time to get a new guy/staff in place. The portal and NIL have changed the landscape of college fb.

Please remember as someone already clearly pointed out that the only reason we are in the Championship game is because 3 teams left for the SunBelt forcing a change in the format. Keep that in mind.

So we actually have "fans" who are worried about letting a coach go because he might do better somewhere else? That has to be the actual worst reason to keep a coach I think I've ever heard.

as I was telling the wife last night.........The weather was nasty. I know it didn't rain heavily throughout the game but there was certainly drizzle most of the time. I remember a game way back when our fourth team walk on running back from Sanger went off for like 150 plus in the rain. The weather was for sure a factor in this game. Ask the Rice deep snapper....Those missed field goals looked like the ball skipped back to the holder. In short, with weather like that, you have to be happy to walk out with win, regardless of the uglyness.

Yeah Wren, give him what he deserves. The chance to coach for his job for the next two games.

2 of the 3 that made Memphis a power are now jobless. Odom may not be far behind. Reassemble that staff & the sky's the limit.

I want that list to be our list.

I'm envious of them! We should have the same list...

Good luck ... Here's to as injury free game.

The only ones who have been vocal about it, and have ties to him are the Lovelaces. They're pretty big. However, we've also been told by another one of the big money donors that Don would fire his own grandmother if she weren't performing. So, who knows?

We did? I think average coach pay for D1 coach is $1.8M...

Pace yourself…you’re three months in and you’re already jaded. 😂😂😂

I know everyone keeps talking about the bowl game in relation to SL’s status. Honestly, I don’t think it’s even going to matter. My guess is the decision about whether or not to move on happens after the UTSA game. I think if he wins, he stays. If he loses, he’s gone. If he loses, the talking point will be that our expectations are conference championships and he’s just not been able to get us there. I think that’s fair to all parties.

Even Google says so: Tulsa City in Oklahoma Description Tulsa is a city on the Arkansas River, in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. It’s known for its art deco architecture, mostly in the central Deco District. Landmarks like the Philcade and Philtower buildings reflect a 20th-century construction boom fueled by the prosperous local oil industry. The Philbrook Museum of Art is housed in an Italianate villa that was once the home of a local oil magnate. ― Google Elevation: 636′ Denton City in Texas Description Denton is a city in Texas within the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area. In its center, the striking Denton County Courthouse-on-the-Square Museum explores local history. Nearby, the Bayless-Selby House Museum is a grand Queen Anne–style home with Victorian interiors. Outdoor sculptures dot the University of North Texas campus. Southeast, huge Lewisville Lake is ringed by parks and marinas, and full of bass and catfish. ― Google Elevation: 640′

Agreed. Guy is annoying.

I think my logic is conservative, too. If you really dive in, you could find at least 70, 75 moral victories I'd estimate! Suck it Kansas State!

Five points from 14:49 to 2:37. The otherworldly scoring droughts are still not fixed.

But there’s a difference between 7-5 in CUSA and 10-2 in the CURRENT AAC and top 25 though… I would guess if Littrell was 10-2 and ranked in the top 25 this year, that would change the thoughts on Littrell’s body of work but he’s never done that…

What if we want the pop-ups? 😏

Oh I hope they don't go after Seth if the Fritz deal falls through. Oh noez.....the horror.

The look on some people’s faces when they realize SL made more in bonuses than they did in salary this year.

Leipold gets $50k at KU if they get to 7 wins. https://m.kusports.com/news/2021/may/02/lance-leipold-signed-6-year-contract-ku-worth-165-/?templates=mobile Klieman gets an automatic extension every time KSU wins 8 games and appears in a bowl game.

Some people’s reaction to reading this:

I doubt that SL will ever be a head coach at a school/program that is higher ranked/regarded than NT. If that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

Again you can’t recruit and retain assistant coaches working in the final year of a contract. You will have to give him at least a 2 year extension or fire him.

Kason had a happy thanksgiving. His season ended and he tossed the pigskin around with his family, ate some turkey, and really looked forward to his break. he’s looking forward to providing you all with more updates next season

Yes we do. UTSA was just led by UTEP 24-0 yesterday. They ended up winning on a last second field goal, the only 3 points either team scored in the 4th quarter. They're not the team they were last year.

If UNT beats UTSA and wins a bowl to finish 9-5, I think it's ok to say we're thankful for the time he spent here and raising the standard here in Denton but still move on. Personally, limping into a conference championship game at 7-5 speaks more to the weakness of CUSA than the strength of UNT. That's not a reason to keep him. Not even if they beat UTSA on Friday. Anything can happen in one game. I'll take the body of work instead.