Mike Leach For Unt Head Coach

[CoachD.]

Ok, since you seem to have some idea of what's going on behind the scenes, is he as strictly opposed to some of the other big names that have surfaced as possibilities? I just don't see how the list would already be narrowed to two without at least gauging some interest from potential candidates.

I'm not saying I know all the behind the scenes...and I agree with everyone of you about the big names.

All I know is that RV has a lot of faith that the new stadium will be the changing of the tide for UNT football. Not sure the same priority is being placed on this new coach. I know Jeff Bower is the edge to take over....with Fraizer being considered.

[CoachD.]

And boom goes the dynamite.

For the hell of it, Frazier's Bio

Sounds like an excellent Division 2 coach

[VideoEagle]

Ok, since you seem to have some idea of what's going on behind the scenes, is he as strictly opposed to some of the other big names that have surfaced as possibilities? I just don't see how the list would already be narrowed to two without at least gauging some interest from potential candidates.

I suspect there has been a lot of "gauging sone interest from potential candidates" since the first game of the season, certainly after the Rice loss.

As for Leach, it would be very slashy, but I don't see how he would fit into Denton. We need someone to help build community interest, work with alumni or at least act friendly towards them and help directly with fund raising. Leach did none of that at Tech. There are guys with proven track records who will work with the community out there. We don't have a ton of money, but we aren't broke either and this is still a FBS head coaching job in a top 5 media market.

[Green Lantern]

All I know is that RV has a lot of faith that the new stadium will be the changing of the tide for UNT football.

The Dallas Cowboys and Akron Zips say hello.

[CMJ]

The Frazier idea is interesting. Still not in my top 5, but I could be on board with that one. Certainly more than Bower.

[CoachD.]

The Dallas Cowboys and Akron Zips say hello.

Haha...Nice

[cdizzle86]

I have the solution!!

We stop building the wing/tail of the new stadium as is and put that money toward hiring a higher profile coach. I mean lets be honest, nobody really likes that thing anyways.

[GreenMachine]

RV is considering only Bower or Frazier from Prarie View A&M

If this is true, then RV needs to be shown the door also. Has he not learned his leason?

Hell, I needed to fill a Financial Analyst II position and interviewed 5 individuals before filling the spot. I'm glad I did because candidate #4 blew everybody out of the water. If other candidates aren't considered, then RV has failed as our AD.

[Eagle1855]

The Frazier idea is interesting. Still not in my top 5, but I could be on board with that one. Certainly more than Bower.

Ditto.

[CoachD.]

If this is true, then RV needs to be shown the door also. Has he not learned his leason?

Hell, I needed to fill a Financial Analyst II position and interviewed 5 individuals before filling the spot. I'm glad I did because candidate #4 blew everybody out of the water. If other candidates aren't considered, then RV has failed as our AD.

I'm sure other candidates are considered...I'm just not sure how much effort goes into calling them in....

[CoachD.]

My opinion...which I know means nothing....but

If UNT wants to be considered a big time division 1 program...then from top to bottom they need to act like a big time program.

These half fast hires and giving people a chance to prove themselves are fine...only if you have exhausted all other options.

[Daddy Dumpsalot]

I can say with absolute certainty RV has no interest in having Leach at UNT. Absolute. Certainty.

I bet if Leach went to USM he would.

[ParksAndRecRick]

One word: Crazy! In addition, he is in a lawsuit against the Texas Tech. NO CHANCE!!!!

[Got5onIt]

I think Leach is the biggest pipedream hire of any of the "big name" coaches mentioned on the million threads littering the board. Hell yeah I'd love to have him, but the money just isn't there for UNT to get him here.

[Green to the Bone]

I suspect there has been a lot of "gauging sone interest from potential candidates" since the first game of the season, certainly after the Rice loss.

As for Leach, it would be very slashy, but I don't see how he would fit into Denton. We need someone to help build community interest, work with alumni or at least act friendly towards them and help directly with fund raising. Leach did none of that at Tech. There are guys with proven track records who will work with the community out there. We don't have a ton of money, but we aren't broke either and this is still a FBS head coaching job in a top 5 media market.

This is quite correct. Leach was openly contemptuous of the community PR requirements of his TT contract. Big donor wants to shake hands and leave a huge check on the table? Drop dead, sez Mike. Visiting delegation of wealthy business alums would appreciate getting to meet the coach? Screw you, sez Mike. It happened so often that it became a big problem for the university executives who tried to make excuses for him with the offended backers; it's one of the things that made his firing for insubordination all the easier.

This is not trivial. We don't need a head case who broadcasts that he hates the people who want to help the program. Don't underestimate the importance of this; it's what makes Leach an unacceptable choice. We need every friend we can get. We need someone who can win games and friends at the same time.

[KRAM1]

Mike Leach would be so wrong for UNT is so many different ways that he is not even worth a phone call or consideration. It is amazing to me that his name keeps coming up here as a possibility. Too many other possibilities to stoop so low as to even consider Leach.

[EagleMBA]

Only if Leach would agree to weekly "sessions" with the best clinical psychology faculty members we could recruit to work with him!

[Green Mean]

Mike Leach would be too damn good for UNT. We are not even worth a phone call or consideration. It is amazing to me that his name keeps coming up here as a possibility because he clearly is above anything UNT will ever be.

Fixed it for you.

[foutsrouts]

Mike Leach would be so wrong for UNT is so many different ways that he is not even worth a phone call or consideration. It is amazing to me that his name keeps coming up here as a possibility. Too many other possibilities to stoop so low as to even consider Leach.

Sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures. As long as he wins, and as long as he and his players stay out of trouble and eligible, I really don't care much about his image or social skills at this point. It's a serious longshot anyway but you never know.

[EagleMBA]

I desperately want UNT to win and be respected. I do not want this status to come about at all costs.

[MeanGreenTexan]

Given that Leach is engaged in a lawsuit with a state entity and we are a state entity, I have doubts that we could hire Leach.

I don't think this is getting through people's skulls... similar to the "30 days" rumor that has been debunked about 100 times on here, yet it keeps coming up.

Forget about Leach while he is engaged in his lawsuit folks. If it ends tomorrow, then great, let's talk to him! But I don't want to wait around for him.

[KRAM1]

Fixed it for you.

The only thing you need to fix you can find from looking in the mirror. However, from your posts and your constant knocking of me and my posts I can definitely understand why you would like Mike Leach for UNT's next head coach. Absolutely understandable.

[Green Mean]

The only thing you need to fix you can find from looking in the mirror. However, from your posts and your constant knocking of me and my posts I can definitely understand why you would like Mike Leach for UNT's next head coach. Absolutely understandable.

Mike Leach is a winner. North Texas isn't. Big difference.

[Censored by Laurie]

The only thing you need to fix you can find from looking in the mirror. However, from your posts and your constant knocking of me and my posts I can definitely understand why you would like Mike Leach for UNT's next head coach. Absolutely understandable.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...we're having fun here, no?

He wasn't knocking you or your post, per se, just pointing out that he...and myself...and many others...hold the exact opposite opinion on Mike Leach.

Leach is a winner...Leach is a recognizable name in Texas to both recruits and fans...Leach would win at UNT. Plain and simple.

[gangrene]

The only thing you need to fix you can find from looking in the mirror. However, from your posts and your constant knocking of me and my posts I can definitely understand why you would like Mike Leach for UNT's next head coach. Absolutely understandable.

OK, you two need to tone it down a bit - no personal attacks (and I've seen them from both sides, on multiple occasions). Play nice or get a time-out.

Thanks.