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If you are afraid of the P5 breaking away from the G5, I think this is not good. This kind of exclusion from our end only reinforces the notion that we (G5) are not a part of the same game as them (P5).

Let’s put this in perspective: With Gibbs, Odom, Stoops, and others we are talking about seasoned candidates who have coordinated at the P5 level for years, including the College Football Playoff. We all have every right as fans to be disappointed in the 2019 results, and I can assure you no one is more disappointed than our leaders in Wren Baker and Seth Littrell. However, the good news is that we have raised the bar, financially and otherwise to where our AD, head coach, and key donors are willing to step up to the plate to bring in a coordinator or this caliber for a price that is possibly greater than what the previous head coach (McCarney) was making just a few years ago. If we slow down and put that in perspective, common sense would say we should be encouraged as fans and excited about upgrading the caliber of defensive coordinator at UNT. This is an exciting opportunity to take a major step forward with our program!

Yep. It amazes me that there are people who still don't get it. It would be the final nail in the coffin in separating from the P5.

Enough to throw @Harry into the mouth of a volcano? @Cerebus

4 UNT commits make the list. https://www.vype.com/recruit-scoop-vype-hot-100-for-2020-version-2-0 No. 68 Kade Bond, Magnolia, OL, North Texas Another solid Bulldog OL No. 75 Christian Lee, Friendswood, TE, North Texas Will put on weight to be a legit college TE, good hands No. 76 Loronzo Thompson, Clear Brook, WR, North Texas UNT needs athletes; he's one No. 88 Jett Duncan, The Woodlands, OL, North Texas Will be solid for Mean Green. Coachable, good size

Putting friendship in front of quality. Hope our next QB is a runner.

OK, now that the season is over, anyone care to assess the newest version of the Green Brigade? Let me start. Pre-game. We actually have one now. We start with the big announcement of pre-game starting and then the Band opens with a Fanfare. An original North Texas based composition. This is historical. No one has ever done that. Incorporating the spirit/curfew bell outline into the tribute to America routine was fantastic......and also historical. I don't think that has ever been done either. Half time shows If "Fessor Cook" and the GB keep coming up with shows like this....or better then they are really going to be deserving of the brag "Best Band in America".....but they're not there quite yet. In the stands Great energy and great promotion of fan participation. The Band was having fun and it was infectious. 👍 So how does everyone else feel?

So I know it said the 10s, but the one about the bowl win said 1st of the 21st century??? 2002????

I want this win very very badly.

Regardless, did anybody see Reeder's offense from before and think that's what we got? Did anybody wonder why we didn't get that offense? I know I did. There could be any number of legitimate reasons, including players not meshing well with it. I don't know.

Coach has fired a couple of people.

I was told that a lot of coaches using their passes have to go to the gate to get them and I don’t think they count yet. Also one told me he can’t wear an OU shirt even if they are an OU fan or coached Devion.

Bussey needs to have that surgery though and soon. It's a 9 month rehab. My son tore his ACL in March and he has just now been cleared by the surgeon to return. It's a long recovery. Surgery plays a part but you have to hit the rehab hard. And I want Bussey back. I loved watching him play.

That worked out great the last time we had it.

^^^@Harry

I don't know about Reeder but Reff was clearly coaching his ass off in the UAB game.You hear him yelling in the background while the camera is on Biagi. You can say what you want about ol' Reff's failures but you can't say it was for lack of effort or intensity.

I would think in this OC scenario Mainord would still coach WRs and they would hire a QB coach.

Hmmm. Aged about as well as mine saying Reeder was going to be a vast improvement over Harrell.

It came up near the top of a YouTube search for college football G5. Hope I didn’t ruin your day. your second comment is trollIng because you’re butt hurt the P5 won’t cooperate with the AAC and MWC. You’re stuck with us, dingleberry.

Everyone does poorly at UTEP.

Thanks. But nope. And last I checked we ARE FBS D1! Do not give in or it will forever be a regret. Get conference commissioners in these 5 conferences that have a damn backbone who are willing to fight for inclusion. Relegating ourselves, in an unforced move, would be the end of ANY legitimate college football aspirations. Might as well have all of the schools drop to FCS. Helluva way to save money if we go for this BS.

The guy speaking is an idiot. G5 to 1-AA? absolutely not. There is a big difference between most G5's and the FCS. He doesn't even know the difference, Idaho went to FCS, not FBS.

Nobody will out work Seth! GMG

Agree. He did not get where he is by being a "bad" coach or forget how to coach. I find it funny how people will talk about how bad a coach is when these guys would not have climbed the ladder if the could not coach.

If I am Mike L, I am staying in Pac12. SEC is a chop off heads conference if you aren't consistently winning more than 9 or 10 games it seems like. being Washington St's punching bag is better than being Alabama or LSU's. Plus somebody already said it.. Washington's coach resigned, so maybe that makes the top spot up for grabs in that state. Arkansas does need to hire a well known and sought after coach though.. Still don't understand the Chad Morris hire. You're in the SEC, you can do better..

Langston needs to be gone after early signing day if we have a recruit or two tied to him. There is no excuse for him to be around. His unit has been mediocre to terrible for THREE FUCKING YEARS.

Seems to be a lot of love and respect in that locker room amongst the players. I hope SL does “right the ship.” GMG!

It will easily be 70/30 green if not more.

DT showing no other offers, which I find strange. Our coaches should check this young man out. https://247sports.com/player/josh-ellison-46037856/

I know but I was talking about his specific unit since he's only been here three years.

Hope you are right. Not sure you are though. Can't get the bad snaps out of my head. That is on th OL coach too and sure seems more like lack of technique teaching than lack of talent or size to me.

Our 1st half of the schedule (after ULAR) is the 12 hardest in the nation

The only way the G5 should agree to anything like this is if the champion gets a guaranteed spot in the big CFP. Of course that would add an extra 2-3 games of wear and tear leading up to it.

Exactly. Hopefully this game gets a lot of people hooked the way that the OSU and Tech games did in a prior era.

Cinco https://twitter.com/TexasTechFB/status/1202334620441645056

Your memory serves you well.

I realize that this is a different era, but we had a clear majority (2/3 at least) when we played both Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. I could be mistaken, but I don't remember it that way at all.

Dead-on... I really wonder if SL and his staff can evaluate OL. Right now, it looks like its his Achilles heal--even in the past couple of years, Mason Fine was being chased around very often as soon as he got the snap, taking some serious hits along the way that also contributed to his senior year performance being worse than in previous years. Look, McCarney had the right idea with linemen on both sides of the ball and running the ball, but he couldn't identify a QB if he tried, which based on recruiting under his tenure would suggest he wasn't trying hard at all. But, as it usually goes here, we go on the far sides of the pendulum between run-oriented and pass-oriented. Dickey and DMac focused solely on ball control and not taking chances down field unless you had to or were playing an inferior opponent. Dodge and SL air the ball out, but get their QBs crushed because their OLs never develop into much under their systems. And defensive focus was/is pretty much nil for both. Just once, it would be refreshing to get a coach who actually focused on both offensive schemes, while also giving defense its due attention. An offense that can run BOTH spread and under the center in short yardage. An offense that looks at the opponent and realizes that maybe running the ball this week will work better than airing it out on most downs. But that won't happen if you have shit on the OL, which is basically what we have had here. I'm not going to hold my breath, either, on that changing next season, even with a new QB. I suspect he will look like Danny Meager and Gio Vizza did in the first part of the Dodgeball years--getting crushed out there while learning on the job how to be a throwing QB in the spread offense.

I really enjoyed the pre-game show and we actually made an effort to get there early to watch it. Huge improvement from years past. I hope they continue to think bigger and better.

THIS!!!!

My thoughts on Langston.

But not by much. I can only give what I find listed. The fact that Troy, ULL ULM, Mercer etc were also there plus Kansas doesn’t make the point that we are 4-8 due to poor recruiting by us and better recruiting by them.. The other three, like the O lines at Rice and La Tech are similar in talent. They are just coached better. That’s fact. Rick

Scrappy

For what its worth, I've always thought the Texas Tech game was the better experience of the two (OSU being the other).

Short timing routes were our bread and butter on first and second down and those disappeared with the Reeder hire. We were always facing 3rd and long, and we didn't exactly have a dominating OL that could block efficiently for that. Mason was trying his darndest and getting killed for it.

It makes sense for our potentially next 4 year starter build the right relationship from the front with a good coordinator. Reeder might have been good and just had a weird chemistry with Mason. We won't ever know. You can't have that talent and only coach him to 4 wins. Man, chemistry is fickle. I see a young up and comer joining Seth's team to lead this vital side of the ball. It is after all the face of Mean Green football. This will be good for Seth too. He needs freshness on the staff like the players do. I saw a lot of happy faces on the sideline this Saturday. The coaching staff was having to get them riled up to match UAB's emotion on the other sideline. They immediately went from having socializing having fun to being back dialed into the game. Strange. We almost derailed the West Champs. GMG