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Doesn't belong on the field. Scoreboard, wall, whatever, but not on the field.

Maybe i am behind the times.... but I don't understand Twitter at all. What good would a #MeanGreen on the field bring us and our University? If it is something substantial I might be all for it, but I can't imagine what that might be...

Not sure what you are telling me but those are custom handmade boots, special ordered by me. One is shark and one is bull hide, I have the boot smith blacking out the white thread on the soles and replaceing the white tubing on the sides with matching grays. The "Mean Green "and "North Texas" I had him add after I decided on green uppers. This guy has made 4 pair of boots for me in the past and does an excellent job, not expensive and is done usually in 4 weeks. I was not promoting a production product or otherwise.

Thanks for the info. I was sitting in the north endzone at the Texas game when we were robbed, but was unaware that something similar had happened up in Arkyland on the other side of the ball nearly two decades previous. I didn't start following NT until the late 70's when I was still a kid, but so many don't realize that we had some serious football going on around Denton back in the latter parts of the 50's, 60's, and 70's. That is why we were probably one or two big seasons away from SWC membership. With just a little more winning and publicity, that membership likely would've had a high probability of success regardless of the serial backstabbers down to our south.

Get ready!

WTF was 1994 thinking?

Okay, so im reading an aritcle on ESPN(http://espn.go.com/b...ur-team-playoff) about how all the SEC coaches are in agreement that, in a four-team playoff format, the teams selected should not have to be conference champions. Of course they would say that, but anyways, it got me thinking. How would I set-up the college football playoffs? So here are my two realities, if you will In an ultra-fair reality that will never happen in real life: You take the top 8 conference champions and the seed them 1-8 based on there rankings, or SOS, or wins or whatever. Then you invite the 8 highest ranked teams who didnt win there conferenc title. they would be seeded 9-16 based on rank, or SOS, or wins or whatever. All of the conference champions, regardless of rank, size of school, or whatever will get a home-game in the first round. Then it would just go on from there. In an semi-fair reality which could actully happen: You take the champions of the top 4 conferences (SEC,Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12). Seed them 1-4 based on rank. Then you take the 4 highest ranked teams who didnt win their conference title and seed them 5-8 based on rank. Top 4 teams get a home game in the first round. Higher seeded team always gets a home game. What do you guys think? what are the flaws in my scenarios? how would you do it differently? Hopefully this will give us something to talk about... GMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/155768085.html Plans for the Mountain West Conference and Conference USA to form an association or merge are being further pushed back, officials said. In March officials from both conferences said an "early June" date was targeted. But Neal Smatresk, Nevada-Las Vegas president and chair of the MWC Board of Directors told the Star-Advertiser in an email, "At this point we are revising our timelines." He did not indicate what a new timeline might be.

As most on this forum know, UNT just named its Apogee Stadium media area as "The Bill Mercer Press Club. The video talks about Bill Mercer's numerous caps he has worn since the the late 1950's here in the DFW Metroplex starting with his even being downtown at the Dallas police station covering the Kennedy assasination, his being the "Voice of....the Mean Green, the Dallas Cowboys, the Texas Rangers, Saturday Night Wresting, etc, etc, etc, and with Bill Mercer "etc", ie, the abbreviation for "so on and so on" could be written many more times. Great job for those who produced the above video of whom I'd bet would be the duo of George Dunham, ie, present Voice of the Mean Green and Dallas sports personality at the radio station we all know as KTCK 1310 "The Ticket." along with UNT AD associate and official Color Commentator of Mean Green football and basketball, Hank Dickenson. GMG! PS: Mr. Mercer, don't know if you frequent this board or not, but if you do it was a great honor for many of us on this forum who did get to meet you. I'll never forget being with you, Craig Way and Ron Shanklin for one quarter of a MG football game back in the mid 80's because of a silent auction bid I won at one of Jim Hobdy's Dallas Mean Green get-togethers. I still have pics of all that back in the day as a keepsake. May you have many, many more sunsets. Mr. Mercer, and I know many on this board who've met you over the decades may want to express their own thoughts, too. God bless... Jim Plummer Weatherford, Texas North Texas grad, 1976 Mean Green & Proud of It! This post has been promoted to an article

Why would Arkansas have #MeanGreen on it's football field?

No problem, I figured as much. As for the polished turds I will be safe with my boots on.

I would take all the conference champions and then the 6 highest rated teams after that. The conference champions are seeded 1-10 and the at-large teams are seeded 11-16.

So, an interesting tidbit left off is what happens to the existing bowl system. I don't know what to think of the bowl system anymore, to be honest. I think that in the world that we live in today, it is widely held that it gives opportunities to programs that might not normally get those opportunities. But when you get right down to it, the bowls (no matter the level) are always going to want to select teams that make them the most money. A top 25 North Texas team was shut out of the bowl system in the 70s, and I think without the conferences negotiating contracts with these bowls that smaller market draws would always be passed over for teams with higher drawing power. Maybe that's not all that unfair---but I think that for a playoff system to work, you've got to wipe out the bowls. Entirely. By keeping the Rose/Orange/Fiesta/etc bowl committees in the loop, that means that you are bringing them to the negotiating table for setting up a playoff system when they really have no place at it---if this is a true playoff system. The bowl committees will always only ever care about maximizing profit margins for themselves. That means always having teams with large traveling fan bases participating in their games. As long as the bowl system is in place, you can bank on the selection process always being rigged to ensure teams from the Big 6 conferences have the most participation. And when you think about it, why would the Big 6 move to abolish the bowl system and their committees when they know that they have an ally that will work to make sure they have the best opportunities?? If you can somehow eliminate the bowls, then I really don't care how you pick the teams....but I imagine that you'd see the number of teams participating gradually increase over time, just as has been the case with the NCAA run basketball and baseball tournaments. Rather than guaranteeing participation through contracts with individual bowls, the Big 6 will move to expand the field so that they have more opportunity to make money from the playoff system. If you limit the bids to conference champions, then you'd probably see another round of major realignment occur so that teams could give themselves the best chance to win a conference bid. I don't think most school presidents around the country would view this option positively considering the negative light the past year's realignments have cast on college athletics. If you limit it to Top 8/16/32 ranking, then you'll see teams schedule their way into a bid. There will always be some kind of gaming of the system, but to get it right, you need to eliminate the profit mongers who are leaching off of everyone---the bowl committees.

To make it a true championship, 11 (or 10) conference champions, at-large bids to fill out the rest of a 16 team field, seed them 1-16, play at neutral sites...basically like a smaller version of the basketball tournament. For now it will be "top 4 teams" (not necessarily "best 4"). Cought the last part of a piece on ESPNU about the playoff. The example they used is one of the top 4 teams has one loss while the #5 team is undefeated. When you are talking the top teams in the nation how can you say Team A is deserving even with 1 loss while team B is not deserving?

KingDL1 - I thought those were off the rack. Congrats if they are custom. Make them any way you want. But like I said...for the longest time I could never find NT stuff because of licensing. North Texas changed the way they license stuff and that allows sellers to sell NT stuff that you would not see 5 years ago. Not that I want someone to polish a turd and put an NT logo on it. Reserve that for UT and OU.

When I see co-eds in short shorts, white shirts and cowboy boots at UNT games, my thoughts NEVER, and I mean NEVER, turn to stinky feet! I do wonder about you!

Silver this is the place that made them for me if that is what you wanted again they were custom boots http://www.superpages.com/bp/Dallas-TX/Romas-Boots-Shoe-Repair-L0121594675.htm

It also means putting money back into their employee's pockets if they're not total jackwads about it. Employees with obesity, diabetes, smoking habits and other preventable health conditions cost employers piles of money, and in the process, they cost the regular person piles of money. For every person that's a smoker, there's a handful of healthy, non-smoking folks who are either directly paying for the care of this individual or they're paying for their coverage even if that smoker never utilizes their health benefits. I know people want to talk about personal liberties and all, but if the unspent healthcare dollars I put in every month go somewhere, I'd rather it go to another employee who has a condition that's unavoidable, or emergency care due to an accident as opposed to helping someone not die of lung cancer because they couldn't put a cigarette down. I'm betting that there's also a risk management/insurance angle in addition to health care cost angles.

For those wanting a jersey...........http://yahoosports.teamfanshop.com/NCAA_University_of_North_Texas_Mens_Jerseys/North_Texas_Mean_Green__Number_5_Replica_Football_Jersey_-_Green

This is well-covered territory,but we never should have dropped down. Kansas State and Northwestern were horrible for most ofthe 1970s and 1980s, the absolute doormats of the NCAA for many of those seasons. But, they never dropped down to I-AA like we did. Wewere actually competitive and winning the MVC from time to time. You look at the other school in that conference with us at one point or another - Houston, Louisville, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Memphis (State) - they all stuck out tough times as well. The decision to drop down was terrible. Former MVC conference mates Houston going to the SWC was surely a slap. We had beaten them 28-0 the year before the SWC took them for football (1976), and held an overall 7-3 lead in head-to-head games (we still lead 7-6). Even during the late 70s and throughout 80s we were competitive with some lower rung Big 8 and SWC schools, beating Oklahoma State (1978), Kansas State (1985), TCU (1986), Texas Tech and Rice...and Texas, truth be told (1988). When Corky Nelson left, he'd given us four winning season in his final five. What more could have been done? We all know the answer - the school could have gotten behind the program. In 1991, I was in my second year at UNT. The bottom fell out when we hired the first high school coach, Dennis Parker. A nice enough guy, but.... We had some occassional success after we returned to I-A under Simon and Dickey - wins over Oregon State (1995), Boise State (1996, 1998, 1999), Northern Illinois (1996), Texas Tech (1997 and 1999), Nevada (1998), and Baylor (2003). Former I-AA colleagues Northern Illinois, Nevada, and Boise State have become bowl regulars over the past decade during their return to I-A: Nevada - 10 since their return in 1992, including the last seven - YES, SEVEN - seasons in a row. Northern Illinois - 6 since their return in 1996, including the last four seasons in a row, and six in the last eight. Boise State - 12 since their elevation to I-A in 1996, including the last 10 seasons, and 12 of the past 13. Our past leadership - athletic directors, presidents, some coaches - did a horrible job of taking advantage of momentum. Then, the hiring of the second high school coach.... We now have some hope. Or, I should correctly say, we again have some hope. Will we squander it again? Will the team stand up and build on an unexpected 5-7 season? Will the coaching staff continue to grind out wins against even lower rung "big conference" schools when the opportunities arise? Will the administration continue to support what is happening? And, finally, will the non-gomeangreen.com alumni finally get on board and start coming to games and contributing? Ladies and Gentlemen, we stand at the precipice of something great? Again?

Two NFL first rd picks on that team... Joe Green and Cedric Hardeman, the QB [ Ramsey ] started for Denver several years, and the Ron Shanklin (above) played on the first Steeler team to win a Super Bowl and several more played in the NFL. No doubt it was the most talented team UNT ever had. The Coach rod rust later coached the New England Patroits.

No, the real reason why we look small time is our recent record in the Sun Belt Conference.

Epic! I had the privilege of taking Mr. Mercer's classes back in the late '80's, and even though I'm not a Sportscaster, I do relish learning from such a Class Act as him! Thank You, Sir!

In a way it could be viewed as similar to the Third Reich, however, come on! It looks okay!!!

Yep. Them there is a couple sets of girl boots.

Opposite...we "buy" games from schools we want to bring to the Pit, typically for a sure-fire W, and don't want to return the trip.

Yep. Saw those, or some similar, at a couple of the tailgates last season. Coeds look good in them. Never realized they said North Texas or Mean Green. I was zeroed in on other things.

what does it mean when you "buy" a game? is this the equivalent of our FB team going to OU or LSU or some other big name school every year just for money?

those are good for chicks and mini skirts

They weren't. No one on the team cared for them either. They were cheap and got torn to shreds after a few hits in pregame. A lot of the logos UNT has worn looks like high school nonsense. Folks on the boards say these design threads are crap but the players are really critical of that stuff. They have to wear it. UNT needs to stop having an image crisis. Figure out something unique and stick with it. It's busch league.

1968-1971 would be cool. Nobody has anything like that.

Ware those things with shorts and stow all your stuff in there.

Maybe we to put the website address on the helmet www.UNT.edu

The designated area must be there in order to do the free smoke campus

Yes! Let's go with any of the helmets from 1953 to 1971. I like the NT football logo (1968-1971) or the solid green shell (1953-1955).

Find 20 designs. Rotate them every year. Problem solved?

I don't mind the 1967, 1968, 1973 and 1983 ones. That said we seriously need to put our current logo on the helmet or invent something new and cool that will be transcendent looking in my opinion.

Honestly, I don't really like any of them.

10. Determining if Coleman is the answer at center 9. senior years for Holmen, Niko, Franklin and Walton 8. Patton actually play 7. Resurgence of dynamic soph. duo: Williams and Jones 6. Benford comparison to J Jones 5. All time attendance record 4. Sun Belt Championships (regular and tournament) 3. First victories in NCAA tournament 2. View best player in NT history, Mitchell 1. View best team in NT BB history

No black, only as an accent color. Outline the numbers, the logo (which I wish was on the helmet) or any lettering in black, but the primary colors should be our green and white.

Black worked well for Darrell Dickey. Singing glory to the Green. Singing glory to the white. GO MEAN GREEN

Somebody remind me, how many letters in Boise State?

You guys keep feeding him replies, thus giving fuel to the fire. His word count rivals Plumm, for Pete's sake! just stop. please.

voluntary euthanasia. thoughts?

UNT leaders trampling on students Constitutional right to smoke? Question, no info.

Really, if we're going to ban things that MAY cause cancer to people nearby, we need to ban the following on campus: Auto Emissions Cell Phones Sunlight Electomagnetic fields Gas and charcoal grills Microwave ovens Bonfires Just to name a few. And honestly, why are smoking areas not sufficient? There is a smoking area at Apogee and almost everyone seems to follow the rules with the help of event staff enforcement. The only way it doesn't work is when smoking Nazis want to push restrictions farther. (I win the Godwin Award)

At my work place or bar, I can go OUTSIDE and smoke, where an ashtray is located. Telling people they cannot smoke on a college campus goes above and beyond accomodating non-smokers. It is overkill.

...see quote in green. ..Below quote from former Frank Broyle's era Arkansas Razorback and now Clemson U AD Terry Don Phillips from Clemson's official athletic site: "I have told many people that the toughest team we played in my college career at Arkansas was Texas," said Phillips. "The second toughest team we played was North Texas." Arkansas beat North Texas 17-15 in 1968 when a last minute pass for a North Texas receiver in the end zone was ruled to be trapped." ______________________________________________________________________________________ Many on this boards friend the late Ron Shanklin who caught that pass for North Texas once told me at a Fort Worth Mexican restaurant several years ago that a number of Arkansas' players from that 1968 Razorback team had called him telling him they were embarrassed by the call because they knew he had not trapped that football. That TD would have won the football game for that North Texas Mean Green football team. Some of you on this board were at that game so......your take on that play? The next Fall most of that same Arkansas Razorback football team would play Darrell Royal's Texas Longhorns for the NCAA College Football National Championship that the national sports media back in that day would call "the Game of the Century." http://www.clemsonti...fo...10aaa.html (AD Phillips quote in last paragraph) GMG! In Closing: Yes, one really has to shake his head when you realize that the talent level of our Mean Joe Greene era North Texas football teams were of an NCAA Division 1 College Football National Championship level. Jeez, why couldn't we have just built on that? GMG ! ! .

Wasn't Art Bryles a "high school coach"? Just sayin'....

Of course it's ugly. That's what makes it so unique. Itd be cool to wear for a throw back game, but that's it.