Doesn't seem new, but unlimited transfers

[NT93]

NCAA allows transfers to be immediately eligible, no matter how many times they've switched schools (msn.com)

[Green Otaku]

To add to that Virginia passes law to allow schools to pay players directly.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39967961/virginia-law-allows-schools-pay-athletes-nil

 

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The new law, which is scheduled to take effect July 1, is the first in any state to make it illegal for the NCAA to punish a school for compensating athletes for their NIL rights. Current NCAA rules prohibit schools from signing NIL deals with their own players. The law could either give Virginia schools a significant recruiting advantage or provide a catalyst for similar changes elsewhere.

"If this law gets us closer to a federal or a national solution for college athletics then it will be more than worthwhile," University of Virginia athletic director Carla Williams said. "Until then, we have an obligation to ensure we maintain an elite athletics program at UVA."

 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

1 minute ago, Green Otaku said:

To add to that Virginia passes law to allow schools to pay players directly.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39967961/virginia-law-allows-schools-pay-athletes-nil

 

 

I was reading about this a few hours ago. This is basically the start of revenue sharing... It was the goal. They took a huge step reaching that goal in Virgina. I'm glad I laughed at the notion of "student"-athlete 20 years ago. The idea of student is so far removed it's laughable. I thought it was laughable in the early 00s. It's a clown town joke nowadays. 

Not all athletes. Because I don't know any player individually. But what I do know is that acceptance standards have been dumbed down to community college levels of acceptance over the last 30+ years, and that goes for some pretty elite universities. Now, those lowly standards are still in place. Then, classes are now exclusively taken online for countless athletes. As of 10+ years ago, athletic departments provide tutors, essay editors, etc. To add, multiple universities have been caught creating made up academic programs to filter their athletes through. Not to mention the universities being caught fudging grades and having their assigned tutors complete their online coursework. 

And we're sitting here still calling these athletes "student"-athletes all the while trying to keep a straight face. 

[Marty]

sad day for college sports. They're now just "athletes" & go to the highest bidder.

[Tommy Gadberry]

Sad day

[Rudy]

Again, they want to be paid, fine. The NCAA is now a professional sports league. That means taxes, salary caps, and signing players to contracts.  Texass u wants one of our players, then trade for them.  Then we'll see how long before those douchebag programs want to go back to the old ways. 

[Green Otaku]

35 minutes ago, Marty said:

sad day for college sports. They're now just "athletes" & go to the highest bidder.

Let's be honest here, the "student" and "amateur" part have been dead at the highest levels for a long time, but now the veil is completely off and the rest have to play by the same rules.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

47 minutes ago, Green Otaku said:

Let's be honest here, the "student" and "amateur" part have been dead at the highest levels for a long time, but now the veil is completely off and the rest have to play by the same rules.

Sure. But not at these monetary levels. It used to be bags of cash as a sign on bonus, if you will. And that was for the elite of the elite players. Then $100 handshakes by boosters for all, but also geared toward the elite players. Now we will legitimately be having bench players at p5 stay bench players at p5 because the money is better. And g5 head coaches are already resiging their posts and taking p5 coordinator jobs. They see the writing on the wall. They see it up close on a daily basis. 

[NT93]

1 hour ago, Green Otaku said:

Let's be honest here, the "student" and "amateur" part have been dead at the highest levels for a long time, but now the veil is completely off and the rest have to play by the same rules.

I don’t completely disagree, but at least they used to have sit out a year if they transferred.  If I’m going to lose a year of eligibility, I’m going to think long and hard before I leave for another school.  Now?  No reason whatsoever to stay.

[NT93]

I’m not the type who’s going to say, “I’m done with college sports” and that be it.   I’m moreso the guy whose interest is just going to wane to the point that I don’t watch anymore.  It would actually free up a lot of time that I could be more productive🤣🤣

[Green Otaku]

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Sure. But not at these monetary levels. It used to be bags of cash as a sign on bonus, if you will. And that was for the elite of the elite players. Then $100 handshakes by boosters for all, but also geared toward the elite players. Now we will legitimately be having bench players at p5 stay bench players at p5 because the money is better. And g5 head coaches are already resiging their posts and taking p5 coordinator jobs. They see the writing on the wall. They see it up close on a daily basis. 

Agree, there was some semblance of programs doing the right thing and following the rules even though they were always getting busted for violations, and everyone knew cheating was going on. It's why I was saying the veil is off now, and making everyone play by those rules has supercharged the whole thing.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the schools aren't supposed to work with NIL collectives to get players right? But everyone including UNT is 100% working with these collectives to send out deals to players. Same kind of fake rule following like we used to have, just more of it now.

[Green Otaku]

48 minutes ago, NT93 said:

I don’t completely disagree, but at least they used to have sit out a year if they transferred.  If I’m going to lose a year of eligibility, I’m going to think long and hard before I leave for another school.  Now?  No reason whatsoever to stay.

I can't blame them, the system in place allows them to profit and to move freely. We may not like it, but it's the system.

I'm hoping schools taking over the collectives, it's already happening for reasons I stated above, will usher in contracts and buy outs for players. We've opened Pandora's box so we aren't going back to amateur sports, the best we can get out of it is payment on our investments. 

[Greenrex]

Tim Pernetti's (new AAC Commissioner) remarks regarding exploring more corporate involvement seems interesting and innovative, sort of. Getting some heavy-hitter businesses on board with their big advertising/public-relations budgets. They get to splash their logos all over the AAC venues, ceremonies, uniforms, etc in exchange for some NIL type moola.

I don't know, it all just feels weird and uncomfortable to this old fat guy.

 

[El Paso Eagle]

9 hours ago, Greenrex said:

Tim Pernetti's (new AAC Commissioner) remarks regarding exploring more corporate involvement seems interesting and innovative, sort of. Getting some heavy-hitter businesses on board with their big advertising/public-relations budgets. They get to splash their logos all over the AAC venues, ceremonies, uniforms, etc in exchange for some NIL type moola.

I don't know, it all just feels weird and uncomfortable to this old fat guy.

 

I applaud his effort to become innovative. Let's try something like this - corporate sponsors provide a pool of money that is made available based on performance in the league and all-conference teams. Graduating players would get their bonus in the year it happens, while players with remaining eligibility would get their bonus at the beginning of the following football season once school has started (which would mean that they are still enrolled in the same school where they performed and gained the all-conference honors). This would perhaps entice players not to bolt once they have success.

[NorthTexasWeLove]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I applaud his effort to become innovative. Let's try something like this - corporate sponsors provide a pool of money that is made available based on performance in the league and all-conference teams. Graduating players would get their bonus in the year it happens, while players with remaining eligibility would get their bonus at the beginning of the following football season once school has started (which would mean that they are still enrolled in the same school where they performed and gained the all-conference honors). This would perhaps entice players not to bolt once they have success.

What is the legality of this? 

 

And to think back in 2013 I was banned from this site for like 3 months for suggesting/asking why we don't do $100 handshakes to/for our players. I was chastised as if I was Genghis Khan. It was as if the people closest to this program was completely unaware that it was happening literally everywhere else. Now fast forward a short 10 years and conference administrators are trying to loophole money to affiliated players.