UNT Athletic Venues Now & Those Planned Scream Out 1 Thing: UNT with its projected 50K student enrollment & 1 million+ pop. in Denton County should be in...A "Power 5" AAC!

PlummMeanGreen · August 8, 2023

(This particular link below is one I've never seen).

Any college sports fan from any NCAA D1 school has to be impressed with what's going on in Denton, Texas, America. This 1976 UNT grad is.

University of North Texas | SLAM (slamcoll.com)

GMG!

meangreenbob · August 8, 2023

9 minutes ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

(This particular link below is one I've never seen).

Any college sports fan from any NCAA D1 school has to be impressed with what's going on in Denton, Texas, America. This 1976 UNT grad is.

University of North Texas | SLAM (slamcoll.com)

GMG!

Until we show we care by filling our venues, we can have an enrollment of 75,000 and the world would not notice.

PlummMeanGreen · August 8, 2023

1 minute ago, meangreenbob said:

Until we show we care by filling our venues, we can have an enrollment of 75,000 and the world would not notice.

Win & then put a series of winning seasons together? My ancient era was the last to see 4 above .500 seasons in a row, ie, post Indian wars.

Big Z · August 8, 2023

1 hour ago, meangreenbob said:

Until we show we care by filling our venues, we can have an enrollment of 75,000 and the world would not notice.

Truth

MrAlien · August 8, 2023

for me its less about facilities and more about marketing and branding... Denton has evolved into a Dallas suburb, and UNT has that stigma of being just another community college in the suburbs.

UNTLifer · August 8, 2023

Some posts you can just read the title and know the author.

Glad to have you back posting PMG.

Green Otaku · August 8, 2023

20 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Some posts you can just read the title and know the author.

Glad to have you back posting PMG.

I always picture Plumm as a rambling old man:

"So, I tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel. And in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. 'Give me five bees for a quarter,' you'd say."

El Paso Eagle · August 8, 2023

8 hours ago, MrAlien said:

for me its less about facilities and more about marketing and branding... Denton has evolved into a Dallas suburb, and UNT has that stigma of being just another community college in the suburbs.

Agree. Students and alums are vital, but we must start marketing to the region and bring in fans not associated with UNT. Make the game day atmosphere an event that people want to attend: promotions, promotions, and more promotions.

Cougar King · August 9, 2023

Power conference entrance is earned not given.

Mike Jackson · August 9, 2023

9 hours ago, MrAlien said:

for me its less about facilities and more about marketing and branding... Denton has evolved into a Dallas suburb, and UNT has that stigma of being just another community college in the suburbs.

Show me the marketing professionals that has a proven track record taking mediocre products and making them best sellers. Seriously because we desperately need to hire them. The stigma is that athletically we don’t win and we don’t anything of any significance. In the past 15 years UCF, FAU, USF, and UTSA all have that stigma but all of them have great seasons with less than 3 losses we haven’t. (The oldest FBS level program in those teams I listed started playing in FBS in 1996). Our biggest wins in the past 15 years are a regular season victory over probably the worse Arkansas team in 25 years and a Heart of Dallas Bowl win*. A bowl game that has changed its name and venue in its storied 13 year history.

The product of football consist of 3 main ingredients.

1. A comfortable stadium with great amenities. (Including staff that make everything go smoothly)

2. A quality opponent that beating is viewed as an accomplishment.

3. A home team that is competitive in those games always and wins at least few more of those games than they lose. NOT counting FCS games.

We don’t win enough and to highlight this let revisit that but asterisk. *During that good Heart of Dallas Bowl season, a 3 year old UTSA program beat us head to head and in the conference division standings.