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I'm sure this could be answered by a quick call to the the Ticket Office.

I saw Jerry Seinfeld at WinStar last night (sat). Of course the show was amazing, but I was surprised to see a big ad for UNT over and over on the video screen before the show started. WinStar claims to be a proud supporter of North Texas. I've heard them mentioned on the basketball broadcast and to see NT and Jerry Seinfeld more or less on the same stage made for a perfect evening. It was a Festivus miracle GO MEAN GREEN

Were they slippin' dollar bills in your Fruit of the Looms?

Part of being a green university: recycling.

So while I'm twiddling my thumbs waiting for the Superbowl to start, I was reading through the threads about increasing interest through regional opponents in a regional conference. I think another way of doing this are rivalries and the lack thereof at UNT. We have SMU for however long that will last, and UTSA is slowly emerging as a conference rival but I think another option could be Texas State. TS and UTSA are reviving their "I-35" rivalry in 2017 and I was thinking why not hop on board. With the amount of alumni the schools are pumping out I think it could work. The 3 teams could play each other each year and hell, let's go all out and throw in a trophy naming the King (or prince. UT, Baylor, and TCU would attest) of 35. I think that would spark more interest than our FCS games and the drives would make nice weekend trips for the alumni. I've done it once for UTSA and also for the UT game, which I was pleasantly surprised at the mean green turnout, and enjoyed it both times.

Let's not act like the Panthers didn't score more than every team in the league. They got their asses kicked last night. Plain and simple.

The three teams we've played the most in our history are Texas State, New Mexico State, and SMU. I'd welcome an annual game with Texas State and an every other year with NMSU. I'm happy with the SMU series. If you can't admit that it gets your blood pumping more than the prospect of a match up with Old Dominion, you're.... I can't think of the proper derogatory word to insert there.

It is not enough yet. He will have to follow it up with a team that finally shows consistent quality. We are currently 7-14 vs FBS teams this season. we have 8 games left. I'd say he needs 6 of those plus a decent run in the conference tournament. And that is just to start considering keeping him. The bar is pretty high by now, because his previous seasons all had one nice win that turned out to mean very little because for every nice win there would end up being at least one bad loss. And this game doesn't really change the overall outlook on th e season: This season our record vs RPI top 100 is: 0-3 vs RPI 101-200 is: 2-6 vs RPI 201-300 is: 2-5 (!) One game does not fundamentally change that bad record. And that is just this season. Benford needs a major run to have the present momentum overpower the long term picture.

I can tell you why: RV = Teflon Todd & Dan McCarney. That's a decades worth of futility. Now, NT has a bigger budget, a new stadium, new athletic buildings, and a student base that is ready for a consistent winner. It can take off with several seasons of good football....

@ChristopherRyanWilkes@GMG24 Here's a post from earlier in this thread. Basically says we had to count Kenny Buyers, Blake Macek, Kaydon Kirby, and Skip Caldwell towards our 2014 class, because they were put on scholarship after spending just one season with us as walkons. The rule, as I've understood it, is that if a player spends less than two full seasons as a member of an FBS team as a walkon before being placed on scholarship then he has to count as an initial counter (re: part of the 25-max man class). Those four I just mentioned were on the team in 2012 as walkons, but were placed on scholarship prior to the 2013 season, thus requiring us to count them towards the next recruiting class (class of 2014). So knowing this, the next year I anticipated we would have to count the players who spent 2013 as walkons but were placed on scholarship before the 2014 season towards the 2015 class. Those players were Andy Flusche, Erick Evans, Michael Banogu, Eric Keena, and Sheldon Wade. Five former walkons needing to count as initial counters. However, Mccarney ended up signing a full 25-man recruiting class in 2015, which did not include any of those five former walkons. In short, if you're still following, maybe Mccarney was able to push those five former walkons back a class. Littrell signed 19 this class. If you add those five I mentioned then that would put us at 24 spots for the class, which would explain us only having one more open spot. In short, Mccarney may have screwed us past his firing due to his awful roster management.

Jim, I commend you for your use of paragraphs. Very readable. Your content is always good; now, it's also readable. I was about to ask for your address and send you a copy of an old AP Stylebook.

I always enjoyed playing Southwest Texas State (now Texas State - San Marcos) in our old Southland Conference years. The trip to San Marcos is not that bad. You can be there and back on the same day if you want to do that. Their stadium was okay and I believe it has been upgraded since then. If SMU shuts down our series with them I would have no problem with Texas State as a replacement

By their sheer size and proximity, it makes a lot of sense to play Texas State every year. Their enrollment in 2014 was 36,739. They would bring a sizable crowd to Denton. Can you look at our schedule and honestly say that you wouldn't swap at least one of our OC games for Texas State?

I personally was bored out of my mind. Halftime was boring, and the commercials didn't do much. Last year's super bowl was much more entertaining overall IMO

We should think about winning some games first

Based on the below that I pulled from our Facts and Records book, we had played SMU 34 times prior to 2015 which is the second most times we've played any team. The team we've played the most? Our fellow former teacher's college to the south, SWTSU-SM is the team we've played most with 37 total contests. We should eclipse that in 2018 if our series continues but we do have a history with the 'cats even though we haven't played in over 20 years. I'd much rather have played them than Portland State, Nicholls, TxSouthern, or Bethune-Cookman. OPPONENT W L T LASTMEETING SCORE Abilene Christian 15 8 1 1994 48-0 Air Force 0 1 0 2003 21-34 Akron 0 2 0 2006 13-33 Alabama 0 4 0 2011 0-41 Alcorn State 1 0 0 1990 20-7 Angelo State 1 0 0 1984 7-3 Arizona 0 1 0 2002 9-14 Arizona State 1 4 0 1998 15-34 Arkansas 0 9 0 2007 7-66 Ark.-Monticello 2 0 0 1941 60-0 Arkansas State 8 14 0 2012 19-37 Army 0 4 0 2010 0-24 Auburn 0 1 0 1981 0-20 Austin College 10 5 1 1946 14-0 Ball State 2 0 0 2013 34-27 Baylor 1 11 0 2004 14-37 Boise State 3 3 0 2000 0-59 Bowling Green 0 1 0 1964 7-21 BYU 2 3 0 1980 23-41 Burleson College 4 2 0 1922 13-9 Cal Poly-Pomona 2 0 0 1976 21-10 Cincinnati 9 7 1 2002 24-19 Clemson 0 1 0 2010 10-35 Colorado 0 1 0 2004 21-52 Colorado State 2 1 0 2001 20-45 Dallas University 3 2 0 1919 87-6 Daniel Baker Col. 3 0 0 1931 32-13 Dayton 0 1 0 1952 14-20 Decatur Baptist 11 0 0 1929 97-0 Drake 10 4 1 1976 63-0 East Carolina 0 1 0 1979 16-49 East Texas State 19 6 1 1951 48-7 E. Washington 1 0 1 1988 51-0 Emporia State 1 0 1 1955 62-0 Florida 1 0 0 1947 20-12 Florida Atlantic 4 6 0 2014 31-10 FIU 3 5 0 2014 17-14 Florida State 0 2 0 1977 14-35 Fresno State 2 0 0 1951 62-0 Georgia 0 1 0 2013 21-45 Hardin-Simmons 11 8 1 1963 18-12 Houston 7 7 0 2012 21-44 Howard Payne 2 1 0 1949 34-14 Idaho State 1 0 0 1995 41-38 Idaho 6 4 0 2013 40-6 Illinois State 1 0 0 1996 20-14 Indiana 1 1 0 2014 49-24 Kansas 0 3 0 1998 13-24 Kansas State 1 6 0 2012 21-35 Kentucky 0 3 0 1984 7-31 Lamar 4 2 0 1986 33-13 Long Beach State 0 2 1 1974 19-35 LSU 0 5 0 2012 14-41 Louisiana-Lafayette 9 8 0 2012 30-23 Louisiana Tech 6 7 0 2014 21-42 Louisville 10 7 0 1995 14-57 Marshall 0 1 0 1988 0-7 McMurray 4 2 2 1957 14-7 McNeese State 6 5 1 1994 38-17 Memphis 4 15 0 1980 29-10 Meridian 2 1 0 1920 41-0 Miami (Fla.) 0 1 0 1980 8-26 Midwestern 7 1 1 1956 14-7 Missouri 0 1 0 1995 7-28 Montana 0 1 0 1994 17-21 Murray State 1 0 0 1989 28-14 Middle Tenn. 8 5 0 2013 34-7 Mississippi 0 4 0 1956 0-45 Mississippi State 2 6 0 1978 5-17 Missouri State 2 1 1 1994 26-20 Nicholls State 6 0 0 2014 77-3 Navy 0 1 0 2007 62-74 Nebraska 0 1 0 1993 14-76 Nevada 2 9 0 1999 28-41 New Mexico 1 1 0 1983 18-8 New Mexico St. 22 9 2 2004 36-26 North Dakota 1 0 0 1952 55-0 Northwestern St 4 6 0 1994 28-25 N. Illlinois 1 0 0 1996 24-21 N. Michigan 1 0 0 1968 17-3 Ohio 0 2 0 2013 21-27 Oklahoma 0 7 0 2007 10-79 Oklahoma Baptist 1 0 0 1920 29-0 Oklahoma City . 1 1 0 1949 26-7 Oklahoma State 1 10 0 1994 34-36 Oregon State 1 1 0 1997 7-33 Pacific 1 1 0 1951 0-34 Parsons College 1 0 0 1965 26-7 Pittsburg State 1 0 0 1938 28-0 Rice 2 3 0 2014 21-41 Richmond 2 6 0 1982 22-13 Sam Houston State 19 11 1 1994 21-16 Samford 1 0 0 2000 14-6 San Diego State 1 6 0 1975 12-30 San Jose State 1 2 1 1981 16-28 SE Oklahoma 4 1 1 1920 47-0 Southern Illinois 4 0 0 1967 37-0 Southern Miss 4 5 0 2014 20-30 SMU 5 28 1 2014 43-6 SW Oklahoma 1 0 0 1950 76-6 South Alabama 1 0 0 2012 24-14 South Florida 0 2 0 2002 17-24 Southwestern 5 2 2 1938 27-6 Stephen F. Austin 23 3 3 1994 33-33 Sul Ross St. 1 0 0 1951 62-6 Tampa 1 2 0 1970 7-18 Tarleton State 1 2 0 1921 0-13 Tennessee 1 0 0 1975 21-14 Tenn-Chattanooga 5 3 0 1966 42-7 Terrell Academy 0 1 0 1914 0-6 Texas 0 10 0 2014 7-38 Texas A&M 0 7 0 1998 9-28 TCU 2 16 0 2002 10-16 Texas State 28 6 3 1994 27-14 Texas Southern 1 0 0 2012 34-7 Texas Tech 4 4 0 2001 14-42 Thorp Springs 1 0 0 1916 48-0 Trinity 16 9 2 1957 13-26 Troy 2 8 0 2012 7-14 Tulane 0 1 0 2013 21-24 Tulsa 7 17 0 2013 42-10 UAB 0 2 0 2014 56-21 ULM 13 16 0 2012 16-42 UNLV 1 4 0 2014 36-14 UTA 11 4 1 1985 23-20 UTEP 14 6 3 2014 17-35 UTSA 0 2 0 2014 34-27 Utah State 3 4 0 2004 31-23 Vanderbilt 0 2 0 1997 12-29 Weber State 1 1 0 1971 0-20 Wesley College 1 0 0 1921 33-6 Western Kentucky 4 2 0 2012 24-25 West Texas State 17 6 0 1983 32-3 Wichita State 11 5 1 1974 10-10 Youngstown 2 0 0 1957 68-13

He was a juco transfer and was rated a 5-star from Blinn. JUCOs are rated, including Newton and all of the JUCOs we got. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/95471 Again, it's just hard to rate a guy like Alec Morris who hasn't thrown a pass since high school. You can slap a player's old high school rating, but that might not be accurate for a guy like Anthony Wallace once he started playing college ball. What else do you use to rate from there? Practice film? That's what it usually comes down to, so it's just not very practical for FBS transfers.

No, it's going to be green space.

I feel no connection or passion against Texas state. I think Utep and utsa and rice feel more like rivals than state. Heck I feel more passion against nmsu and Arlie state than the Bobcats. Rivalry games to me: 1. Smu 2. Utsa but dislike them more 3. Rice 4. Utep 5. Arkie state gmg

Quick! Let's get Richmond for a future OOC game, stat!

Not a representative shot of the full crowd who eventually made it to their seats...we, had that 4600+. But, quibble as we may over the actual attendance, it was darn good. And, whoever was responsible for the promos that got all those groups and others to attend...as we have been averaging under 200, should be given a pat on the back. The crowd noise had to help the players, and they did seem to enjoy the attendance as witnessed by the bench "goings on" at multiple times throughout the game. FUN it certainly was...and nice to see two home wins in one week!

#All90sMatter

Congrats, you're the dumbass of the day.

North Texas fan mentality pre 2012- Remain quiet while people talk about college football. Speak up about hoops (at least we have basketball) North Texas fan mentality in 2013- Talk about college football with your fellow SEC and Big 12 team fan buddies. Don't get to cocky... But your are given the right to speak highly of the Mean Green Defense when it comes down to it. Suck it TCU and Texas North Texas fan post 2014- Just remain quiet about sports, roll your eyes when someone bad mouths UNT... But never speak up or argue about it. Walk into an establishment IN DENTON and hesitate a little to ask them to switch over from a P5 game to a UNT football game. 2016: Please lord, make Littrell the guy who gets it for us. We have been clowned 3 times now since the early 00's... Just let Littrell bring us that 2013-in-your-face feeling again!

Just cut it off and wear it as a half-shirt... I do... Make sure and wash them at least 5 times before doing this...

MGB: The numbers show just how tough the slate of Marshall, MTSU, WKU is compared to the rest of the league http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2016/02/just-how-tough-is-unts-c-usa-crossover-schedule-the-toughest-in-the-league.html/

I would guess that 1/3rd of the P5 ask themselves this same question and probably 1/2 of the G5. We are not alone. For the first time in forever, it feels like we are actually trying to improve.

Time to separate the men from the boys!

If anyone from SMU ever said "Nasty" it was probably someone that came to a game at Fouts. In that case it would be somewhat understandable........especially if they had to use the restroom.

Do you understand the term "sarcasm"?

<rob schneider>

A great defense shut down a great offense. Interesting. Who would have thought it possible. Hmmh...

Brice is a pretty nice piece to have coming off the bench IMO

I was watching Steinfeldt last night...

I just came here to say, WAZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

Ooops. He's back in there. There were a few other little things that weren't all correct like the order of players within a position by time remaining. Those have been corrected as well Not on the official roster. Didn't he graduate? I can't remember with all the changes I've made the past few weeks.

Nah, he lost me when he said we had ugly cheerleader and the worst dance team.

Not sure what you call a star, but there are good players on this team. Combs is as good a player that NT has had since Chris Davis. Benford is not at the end of his contract, he has one more year. On another subject, NT does not have to have give Benford an extension if they don't terminate him. Sure it will effect recruiting to some degree, but did he just not sign the best rated basketball transfer player in history with no guarantee he will ever coach him? The la tech game in itself means nothing when it comes to retaining Benford. IMO NT will have to finish strong and at least win one game and be competitive in another in the CUSA tournament to save Benford. Then again, its RV so I wouldn't be surprised at anything.

Appreciate you guys. i believe you accidentally left off Trevor Moore just so you know.

Oh?

Dude, what are you talking about? Littrell was raised up in college football in just that kind of offense...A revolutionary offensive passing game. I never said Dodge had college experience. I know he had a brief stint at Pitt, but not even sure if that was pre or post UNT, but that is irrelevant. Littrell has experience and success force feeding teams offensive efficiency at primarily basketball schools with minimal football success, tradition, or history. UNC, Indiana, and Arizona are not exactly World beaters in the college football landscape. He put all 3 on the map, if only briefly, because of his offensive prowess. There is nothing illogical about any of that. Those are all facts. He has had success at schools where most people have not had that same kind of success. How you can't see that is alarming. You need to take the hate RV glasses off just for a second and look at the overall picture. You are at the point of literally wanting to see UNT fail because of your disdain of a few people. Most are right there with you and most feel the exact same way. This department has been ran like a pirate ship. We get it. There is still a way to be positive and forward thinking in your approach to UNT fandom. *And no, Littrell has never had to recruit at the G5 level. But what he had to do was similar...Lure talent away (or just keep talent to stay committed) from big time football factories in the ACC and BIG. There are similarities there if you would like to admit that or not.

Yeah. Our new Mean Green Club Director is a 25 year old recent graduate from Louisiana Tech. Good for her, but why...just....why.

I think the President has zero authority to fire Rick Villarreal. I think that power struggle has been fought and lost.

ya'll need to raise your tolerance...drunk of an 18 pack, or jello shots or evan williams....pansies...

Updated with signings from Signing Day.

Knock it off guys. My finger hurts from all the -1's I'm giving.

Amazing, last year was so bad they had video's of other student athletes begging for support, year before that they had a barley out of college student (female, valley girl) reading some boring speech regarding support for the mean green club, that's why I quit going...If this year was good, hats off to someone on Rick's staff. Look guys, this should be nothing but a cheer leading session about our football team and the new players; also, a preview of the up-coming season of 2016. Yet again, this comes down to the leadership of the AD; he does not understand putting on a good show. Go to the kick off meeting of the SMU or TCU, you'll see a completely different show.

Remember, these are true game day jerseys. An XL in these jerseys is cut much differently that an XL at the local department store. These jerseys are full through the shoulders and chest and tight through the abdomen. Most of us old dudes need the opposite.