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However, I doubt the movers and shakers of college football care. Louisville crushed Florida tonight. Yeah, that Louisville that was a 15+ point underdog and wasn't given a chance by anybody. Look, you can't decide the best teams by polls, computers, comparing schedules or even the eye test. The big bad SEC got beat by Clemson, Louisville, Northwestern, and Georgia struggled with a Nebraska team that lost it's last game by 40+ points. South Carolina barely beat Michigan and Michigan is ordinary. The SEC is still the best conference top to bottom but champions shouldn't be determined by reputation. Or certainly not by one game. Until there is an eight team playoff, the system is still a joke. It gets proven every year when a team that no one thinks can win a BCS game, wins one. The list is so long it would take too long to type. Instead we get the "experts" wrong......again.

Driving today I caught a segment talking about the Mavs and their woes. The talk turned to the draft and how very weak they thought it was. One of the guys said "a player from NORTH TEXAS (capitalized because they emphasized it) might be the #1 pick!". They apparently have heard this rumor from NBA insiders. This highlighted two things to me. 1)No matter how "weak" this draft class might or might not be, there are people who think Tony is #1 pick worthy. Yep, the same guy who is supposedly too pouty and lazy to run our scheme might be numero uno on draft day. (Not my words, theirs) 2)This absolute dumpster fire of a season has made the thought of one of our guts as the first pick such a joke...and such an indictment on this draft. If JJ were still here, or any competent coach, and we were sitting on a 3,4 or 5 losses instead of staring at a three game blowout loss streak, what could the press from Tony do for us?! Anyone think Tony is gonna speak glowingly of this place after this beating of a season? We will feel the butt pounding from this hiring mistake for a long, long time.

I love the bowl games....yes, i would prefer a playoff system, but it is college football and a better alternative to watching pro. until we get that perfect playoff system...give me bowls...lots of them

Personally, I will continue to follow games (and attend a couple while I'm in town), but I know exactly how you feel. Furthermore, your attitude is probably right in tune with most of our fans/alumni/students. And . . . that is the very reason why we need to take immediate action to stop the bleeding. A $1.2 million buyout is cheap compared to the price we will pay over the next decade if our program has to undergo a lengthy rebuilding process.

Oh God, there are more games?

Ok emmitt, a not embarrassing jj loss from last year. 97-64 to University of Texas Arlington. a not so embarrassing loss to Miss. State, 82-59. A not so embarrassing loss to columbia with an rpi of 187 72-57. OH yeah, and that loss to Tech early in the year who finished the season with a staggering rpi of 240. I am not taking up for Tony Benford, I am just not going to knee jerk and say fire em all, they stink. I am watching the same games you guys are, and I think this Andrew is not being realistic. If these kids can't play, then he better find some that can. He better go find a juco point guard that can shoot. I am just saying that this team might very well be overhyped.... Not what was advertised. Heck yes he is going to come in saying things like "They are scared to play in Denton" and "Our goal is not only to go to the tournament, but to go deep in the tournament". I heard all of these things several times. We were all set up for a big, big let down. It is time to pick ourselves up, be realistic about what we have here, and figure out what we can do to help right the ship. For my part I am going to sit at the games and encourage our players, heckle the refs to the point where they might throw me out of a game, and thank god that my living does not rely on the actions of 18 to 22 year old kids. If at the end of next year we have completely lost it and have gone way backwards, then I will be more critical of Coach Benford, but not in public, not on an internet board. Only in private conversations with whoever wants to listen. It is just nor fair to judge this thing one sided right now, that is all I am saying.

Why was this given a -1? There is nothing over the top or rah rah about this post, just simple congratulations.

Way to go, ladies!

We win 32-29

I wish you were an ex-GMG poster too. How can we make that happen?

Great, except you ignore that facts that this team is worse in just about every statistical category than they were last year. You ignore the fact that this team is far worse defensively than they were with less talent last year. You ignore the fact that the main players on this team have a year of college experience under their belt and have regressed. You ignore the fact that JJ had a less talented team in the Belt tournament finals last year (something we won't see this year). You ignore the fact that we were never blown out by a conference foe last year, home or away (even though we were far less experienced and far less talented the last 2/3 of conference play). You also ignore the visual evidence of Benford as a bench coach. You ignore Benford getting mad at a player, turning around and looking at the 3 guys that are immediately behind him, scanning the 3 frantically, pointing at one, changing his mind, and sending another in for the player at which his ire is directed (a common occurrence). You ignore non-sensical substitution patterns. You ignore Benford yelling at the players loud enough for the 1st 30 rows to hear. But, other than all that, your right. It's JJs fault.

I think there needs to be a 16 team playoff. If you want to give the Big 5 conferences an advantage let them have 2 teams each in, the other conference champions all get in, and the 16th team is the highest ranked team still on the board.

Heard this guy had a bad death in his family and decided to stay close to home after hs. Transitioned to LB over past year with ex-NYG LB. Wasn't big enough to play DE at this level. Talked to extremely reliable source that says this kid is at a whole new level physically and still as intense as ever and is willing to earn a spot on the mean green. Heard this kid is a beast... The by the way UTA isn't true because the kid is enrolled at UNT and starts class in a week.

I've decided not to post much at all, and really don't look to see when we play or who any longer. This is really sad!!! I always followed UNT games for the last 7 years and purchase premium online membership to watch games over the internet. I've given up, sad to say!!! I'll check in from time to time, but if RV isn't going to do anything then why should I?

Romo is a good QB. But, there have many many good QBs in the league stuck in bad situations team-wise. You have to look at everyone's situation. Dallas, whether we as Cowboy fans like to admit it or not, is going the way of Oakland - a franchise with an owner who stubbornly must be the center of attention, win or lose. He must make all decisions. He cannot let go of what he perceives to be "control" to a real football GM. I can't for the life of my understand why guys like Jerry Jones and Al Davis couldn't just enjoy their wealth, but let people who knew football better make decisions as the league progressed into a baseball-like free agency entity. How anyone can look at the Cowboys offensive line and place blame for whatever failures Dallas has on Romo is beyond me. If you have no run game, it is because your offensive line is not good. Look at Washington, or any team under Shanahan in Denver. You can take any decent back and make them productive with a good offensive line. With the threat of a run game, you open up the pass game. Dallas' run game is a joke. Their offensive line is a joke. And, really, their receiving corp is inconsistent. They gave a huge contract to Miles Austin, which is a terrible albatross now. You simply cannot give out that kind of contract based on one year of production. You can't. Dallas did, and got stuck with it. Dez Bryant...he catches some, he misses some. He'll never be disciplined enough about his game to be a consistent threat. Despite the head cases Randy Moss and Terrell Owens were off the field, they managed many great years on the field. Bryant...it's just not in him. The only consistent part of the Cowboy offense since Tony Romo has been starter has been Jason Witten. It's not enough. Jerry and his boy have done a terrible job of building the team around Tony and Jason. it's a terrible waste of two first rate talents.

After suffering an 18 point loss on the road without CJ, I thought it would be interesting to take a look back at last years team's road losses after losing both CJ and JWill to academics: 01/14/12. At ULM. 68-55 win 01/25/11. At LaLa. 62-64 loss 02/09/11 at FIU. 68-61 win 02/11/11. At FAU. 81-86 OT loss 02/23/11. At UALR. 75-67 win 02/26/11. At Denver. 52-64 loss (with nothing on the line as I recall) Throw in a 2 point home loss to a MTSU team that was much better than the team we just lost to by 18 points. Several things. Notice how we only gave up more than 70 points in one road game, and that game went to OT. So far, the only game we have lost and still held opponents under 70 was St. Louis, by far the best we have played all season. All other losses we have given up 70 plus. This team does not play defense, even with a far superior lineup. That is coaching.

Corrected.

We are the worst shooting team that I've ever had the displeasure of watching at the college level. I shudder to think of what those other 20-30 teams that rank beneath us in field goal percentage must look like. Sheesh. Why, then, did Benford not bring in a single shooter in the offseason?! Obviously we can't shoot the ball. THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE. We knew this last year. Now outside of Overlander, we don't have anyone who even has a decent stroke that'd make you THINK that they could hit a shot. We all witnessed Walton last year. There's too much game film and stats available from last season to prove that he's not the answer as an outside shooter to NOT bring in at least another. We brought in Coleman, Hardwick, TJ Taylor. Coleman looks like a bust so far, but I'll give you that we needed depth at F/C. I have no idea what to make of Hardwick at this point. He looks like he could be a good ball distributor but he rarely plays and certainly doesn't take many outside shots. TJ Taylor cost us Norris....who I can't honestly say would have been the answer to our shooting woes, either. TJ Taylor may turn out to be the second coming of Calvin Watson....or he may never step foot on the floor for us. Either way, our entire fanbase knew we had a team that had few pure shooters. Any professionally paid coach knew that as well. I think, as a fanbase, we assumed that we'd see Benford implement a seriously furious pace on the defensive end of the floor and a jazzed up transition game to offset our shooting troubles. Instead we play poor on-ball defense, are too slow in transition, and play a slowed down motion based half court offense against teams that are largely playing zone. It's all a WTF moment every time I watch this team. If we're going to have trouble shooting the ball, we need to crash the boards and block out like our lives depend on it. But to blame a lack of shooters when we clearly knew this was going to be a problem is giving Benford a pass, impo.

UTA's season is circling the drain. After beating New Mexico State at home by 21 last weekend, we scored a whopping 35 points against Denver the other day, then scored 46 against Boise State last night. Two 15 (or more) point losses at home. We have forgotten how to score. It's obvious we can't shoot the 3, now we can't score from 3 feet away. Looking very much like the bad 80s-90s Mavs teams UNT used to beat by 15 twice a year in the Southland.

Anyone who is bored and sketching out dream conferences, you can find the last two years of BCS ratings for the non-AQ schools here. http://www.arkst.com/?p=2098

If the first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem and it appears there isn't anyone willing to admit it in the AD just how long until recovery?

NT winning big over Troy at half, 50-30 Trying to watch on NT premium, with little luck with freezes every few seconds. Anyone else watching?

I would like to see CUSA and MWC dissolve the Big East and have 2 equally strong conferences. Below is just an idea of what that could look like. With all the conference shakeup going on, I probably forgot a team or two, but this would make for some great competition. MWC - Boise State - San Diego St. - UNLV - Colorado St. - Air Force - Fresno St. - Hawaii - SJSU - Nevada - New Mexico - Utah State - Wyoming - UTEP - SMU - Houston - BYU CUSA - North Texas - Rice - Memphis - ECU - Tulsa - Southern Miss - Tulane - La Tech - Marshall - MTSU - FAU - FIU - UCF - USF - UAB - Old Dominion - UTSA - UNCC

I would contend the Big 12 is better top to bottom, but 6 SEC CHAMPSHIPS MAKE DA HOLE CONFRENSE BE GUD

I enjoy the title of this thread. If you are a Cowboys fan, you are a lemming while insinuating that Redskins fans are not. You know, because the Redskins have a long history under Synder of making great decisions and being really successful.

Not that the demand is huge, but my seats will be open tomorrow and Saturday because of a death in the family. Only issue is I can't really deliver them to you, but at the very least, take my seat and fart in it or something once you pay to get in. Here's to a 2-0 weekend.

I actually think NT wins tomorrow.

The women could be the team that makes some noise in Hot Springs.

Start?

you should come out...I told Tasty at the last game that its fun to see Todge walking the sidelines again.

Another blow, Jones was the player that could have done the most to turn this team around. Outside of being the point, he was the best offensive threat on the team.

This team is all around bad! Bad coaching, bad shooting, bad defense, bad rebounding, and inflated egos. I think having shots fall in a nice streak will change all that. Why play defense if we can't score, let's leak out to try and steal a basket, and don't mess up or I'll come out. I'm not happy with the coach as much as with the players.

Only improvemt I see are the better parking spots

Wow, go figure. A really good quarterback leads to wins. Maybe we should try that.

Touting the academic credibility of SMU has become a joke.

I voted no, but only for two real reasons: (1) The Big East's television contract probably won't end up being that much better than whatever C-USA renegotiates, and (2) I don't really like yankees and want no association with a part of the country Texas will soon secede from anyway.

I get goose bumps on top of goose bumps when i feel I have just read what I feel to be pure unadulterated truth. One of the best post I've ever read on this or any other message board, Harry, and you are the one who dun' it! GMG!

Who the hell are you to be casting stones at other institutions in the first place? You should damn sure hope your university does what is fiscally responsible for the university, wherever that may be, as opposed to appeasing the fragile ego of kids like you who pound their chest with hubris who undeniable have no clue how the world works in grown up land. Your school isn't ivy league nor one of the big kids on the block, so stop trying to pretend it is. You have obvious inferiority issues, so you come here to bash others, in some sad attempt to make yourself feel elevated. You are the stalker here slick. Are you that much of a loser, while still in college, you waste your time on other universities web sites? Especially while on holiday. Go away and get back to Warcraft or whatever guys like you do in your mom's basement.

I don't even have to use my MGC parking pass. Saves me the effort of digging through my glove box.

And, more importantly, Benford SAID all the components were there AND that teams were afraid to play at the Super Pit. So either he is a terrible coach or terrible at evaluating talent (along with all the teams that refused to play us in Denton), either way doesn't forecast good times ahead.

Should be an easy sell to alumni and fan bases...just say 'the Big East is falling apart and we did not have any control over its demise.'

They might make SDSU squirm, but they will let them back in. SDSU is a better overall program than most of the new MWC members and will help the conference overall. There is making someon squirm a bit and then there is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

By Massey composite rankings, NT is 236 and Troy 288. If NT can't beat Troy at home, then we are just about rock bottom. NT should win but I could of said that about a lot of their games.

Bowls payout is in the millions. ( most schools loose money) College football playoffs would be in the Billions! The oid boy bowl system is a joke! i have not watched one bowl game. Will watch Johnny Football.

Yes lets compare. Last year at this time we had 7 losses through the Troy game. Average RPI of teams that we lost to was 134, with the highest rpi being texas at 57. We lost to them 73-57. We had seven wins. Of these 7 wins 1 was against New Orleans, 1 against St. Gregory's, and one was against La Sierra. The average RPI of the four teams that we beat was 261. So we were 4-7 at this time last year against teams that count against the RPI. The highest RPI of teams that we beat to this point was Loyal Marymount at 109. I know that everyone hyped this team, hell I hyped this team to everyone I knew, told everyone I knew about our lottery pick, about our two guards that were coming back. You can hate on Benford all you want, this team just wasn't that good last year, and it is not that good this year either. I don't like watching this either. I don't like watching other teams making transition baskets while the "All American" is smirking at officials because he thought he was fouled. I don't like watching athletes that Johnny Jones recruited missing every freaken mid range jumper that they take. I don't like looking up at the end of the game and seeing that the other team made 11 three pointers and we made 0 or maybe one. But I can't put this on the coach. I am sorry. He was not handed the keys to a ferrari. I will admit that Jordan has been coming around the past few games, but we are still not making the long range daggers that Tristin Thompson, Dominique, Josh White, Brandon, Calvin Watson or many other players from the past could make for us. It is sad to watch, but I am sad for different reasons than some of you guys. The average rpi of teams that we have lost to this year is 107, With the highest being Creighton at 15, The average RPI of teams that we have beaten is 218. We were just not that good last year to this point, and we are not that good this year. I argue that we would be in this exact same place with Johnny Jones, and calling for his head. Fortunately for Johnny he is in Baton Rouge with LSU playing an EASIER non conference schedule and make 600,000 a year more than he made here. Loved Johnny, friends with Johnny, but is it possible the rug was pulled out from under this place on the way out the door?

To be fair, Aplin has been all world that last 2 seasons which saw Ark St have abnormally high win totals. 2010 and prior saw attendance averages in the 17k range and win totals of 6 or less in most years.

I particularly enjoyed our idiot coach trying to sub Jordan out and back in before any time had elapsed. He Benford'd himself!