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Big Ten, SEC form advisory group as conferences' bond tightens

The move is significant because it reflects a growing relationship between the two largest and wealthiest conferences and their respective commissioners as the balance of power continues to tilt in their favor in the evolving collegiate landscape.

Sources have told ESPN that Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey have been working closely together -- more than their predecessors had -- at a time when conference expansion has further separated their leagues from the other FBS conferences.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39444847/big-ten-sec-form-advisory-group-conferences-bond-tightens

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College football keeps changing and changing. Not sure if it is for the best. Conference realignment, NIL, transfer portal going to make things tougher for college coaches. When a HC from a power five conference takes a DC position in the NFL that tells you a lot.

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On 2/2/2024 at 10:45 PM, Hunter Green said:

I'm curious how this affects to ACC and the Big 12. Are they on the outside looking in as well?

Half of the ACC wants out of that conference to try and join the Big10 or SEC.  If Florida State ever finds the key to escape then the ACC won't be what they are today. 

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On 2/2/2024 at 10:45 PM, Hunter Green said:

I'm curious how this affects to ACC and the Big 12. Are they on the outside looking in as well?

Geez, imagine if you did something crazy, like forego revenue for almost a decade, just to get into one of those leagues. 
 

Man, you’d feel pretty stupid and look pretty desperate.   But who would do something that crazy? 

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2 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

Geez, imagine if you did something crazy, like forego revenue for almost a decade, just to get into one of those leagues. 
 

Man, you’d feel pretty stupid and look pretty desperate.   But who would do something that crazy? 

I guess you’re referring to Stanford and Cal….and SMU lol. 

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2 hours ago, Cougar King said:

Stanford and Cal are getting revenue.

30%, forgoing 70%. Quite a lot for schools who were already at the table. Per the ACC release Stanford, Cal AND SMU will still receive revenue from the College Football Playoff, bowl games and NCAA Basketball Tournament. Also, I believe all three, SMU included, will get their full share of the ACC Network money. 

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11 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

Geez, imagine if you did something crazy, like forego revenue for almost a decade, just to get into one of those leagues. 
 

Man, you’d feel pretty stupid and look pretty desperate.   But who would do something that crazy? 

LOL.  SMU becomes a full revenue share member if any legacy ACC school leaves the league (including the close to $1b it will cost a school to leave the conference as well as the rights to their home games through 2036).

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2 hours ago, ScottC said:

30%, forgoing 70%. Quite a lot for schools who were already at the table. Per the ACC release Stanford, Cal AND SMU will still receive revenue from the College Football Playoff, bowl games and NCAA Basketball Tournament. Also, I believe all three, SMU included, will get their full share of the ACC Network money. 

This is correct.  SMU will receive around $12m in total revenue (roughly).  Obviously could change depending on number of NCAA basketball credits.

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First up the union is going to happen. College will establish a collective labor agreement like the pros. The next step is private corporations or individuals are going to buy the teams with the schools getting a %. The college football revenue agreements are going to explode! The future!

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21 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

We're making more as ACC members while foregoing that revenue than we were making in the AAC.  

Anyone in the AAC SHOULD be desperate enough to take that deal, so yes, we were desperate.  But it's not a financially bad move.

How freaking pathetic are you that you constantly come here to post. Go away. Stay away.

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58 minutes ago, DentonStang said:

We're making more as ACC members while foregoing that revenue than we were making in the AAC.  

Anyone in the AAC SHOULD be desperate enough to take that deal, so yes, we were desperate.  But it's not a financially bad move.

Sending Volleyball, etc to California and up and down the East coast won't be easy on students or fans.  Oh wait, no fans....just hard on the students.

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18 hours ago, DentonStang said:

No

Hey Stank, explain how you are making more, foregoing revenue in the ACC, than you are in the AAC?

On second thought, I don't care.

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On 2/6/2024 at 4:26 PM, UNTLifer said:

Hey Stank, explain how you are making more, foregoing revenue in the ACC, than you are in the AAC?

On second thought, I don't care.

There are multiple income streams.  Media contract is one (the biggest) but there is also bowl revenue, playoff, NCAA tournament, and others that flow through conferences.

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4 hours ago, DentonStang said:

There are multiple income streams.  Media contract is one (the biggest) but there is also bowl revenue, playoff, NCAA tournament, and others that flow through conferences.

Don’t all those streams run through the ACC office?

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9 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Don’t all those streams run through the ACC office?

Yes (for the most part).  Regardless the revenue will be greater despite getting nothing from the media deal than what SMU was slated to receive in the American.

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On 2/2/2024 at 10:45 PM, Hunter Green said:

I'm curious how this affects to ACC and the Big 12. Are they on the outside looking in as well?

The logical answer is eventually, yes. The delusional answer is no....a.....West Virginia or Boston College or..........wait for it......SMU 😂 will be on the same level as Ohio State and Texas. Not gonna happen.

Just split up already. I'm going to say that the SMUs and North Texas's of the world will be right back in the same level of college football in less than five years. The question will be what will happen to Texas Tech, TCU, etc.....

They will not be in the group with Alabama, Michigan, OU, USC, etc.

Big time college football is about to be 40 teams

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19 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

The logical answer is eventually, yes. The delusional answer is no....a.....West Virginia or Boston College or..........wait for it......SMU 😂 will be on the same level as Ohio State and Texas. Not gonna happen.

Just split up already. I'm going to say that the SMUs and North Texas's of the world will be right back in the same level of college football in less than five years. The question will be what will happen to Texas Tech, TCU, etc.....

They will not be in the group with Alabama, Michigan, OU, USC, etc.

Big time college football is about to be 40 teams

It isn't about being on the same level as Ohio State and Texas.  For programs like WVU, SMU, and BC its about making the cut.  The next step is a break away from the G5.  The expanded playoff will likely be 8 teams from Big 10/SEC and four from the Big 12/ACC.

The Big 12 and ACC will be a step below the Big 10/SEC but won't be left for dead like the G5 will inevitably be here in the next decade.

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