Not Nt Football Related: Coach Fran Possibly In Trouble

UNTLifer · September 28, 2007

www.DallasNews.com "Sold Insider Info To Boosters"

GoMeanGreen1999 · September 28, 2007

www.DallasNews.com "Sold Insider Info To Boosters"

Once again, Fran is just giving more reasons for the University to fire him.

Mean Green 93-98 · September 28, 2007

Coach Fran always did strike me as a little too opportunistic.

Stan R · September 28, 2007

How dumb do you have be to agree to do this. He could potentially jeopardize a 2 million a year job for 1200 freaking dollars a year!?!? INSANE!!

Eagle-96 · September 28, 2007

My wife is an Aggie grad so A&M is my 2nd team(yes people are allowed to have secondary teams). While I am glad that Coach Fran may be leaving, I shudder to think what sanctions, if any, the NCAA could hand down for this.

Baby Arm! · September 28, 2007

Now the Aggie BOR can get on their high horse and be all moralistic and fire him for doing something so un-aggie like. When the truth of the matter is they want to fire him because he's not winning at the same level or rate as Mack Brown.

OA5II · September 28, 2007

Don't be so quick to point fingers about this. I know for a fact that Dennis Parker use to meet with donors on Thursdays for home games and give access to information and would have something printed up for out of town games.

DD did something very similar to Parker and if I was a betting man Dodge does to. This is something that happens at every D1 school and there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about it.

Now with that said, there are plenty of other things to get Franchione canned, but this isn't one of them. If that was the case, there would be many schools without a coach.

Mean Green 93-98 · September 28, 2007

Don't be so quick to point fingers about this. I know for a fact that Dennis Parker use to meet with donors on Thursdays for home games and give access to information and would have something printed up for out of town games.
DD did something very similar to Parker and if I was a betting man Dodge does to. This is something that happens at every D1 school and there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about it.
Now with that said, there are plenty of other things to get Franchione canned, but this isn't one of them. If that was the case, there would be many schools without a coach.

Telling friends or those affilliated with the school things you don't tell the press or public at large is not the problem. The problem comes when you sell that information for $1200 a pop. Was Dennis Parker trying to profiteer off the information he had like Franchione is? I hardly think so.

OA5II · September 28, 2007

Telling friends or those affilliated with the school things you don't tell the press or public at large is not the problem. The problem comes when you sell that information for $1200 a pop. Was Dennis Parker trying to profiteer off the information he had like Franchione is? I hardly think so.

Yes, each coach does it. Do you think Parker invited everyone to that meeting. You had to be a big money contributor. Just like Beamer, Meyers, Brown, Stoops and such. They don't give info, they sell info. It makes the big money contributors feel special.

Stan R · September 28, 2007

Yes, each coach does it. Do you think Parker invited everyone to that meeting. You had to be a big money contributor. Just like Beamer, Meyers, Brown, Stoops and such. They don't give info, they sell info. It makes the big money contributors feel special.

Well, yes maybe he had a private meeting for the donors but the question is did he take cash INTO HIS OWN POCKET? I think that might be the difference. And for the record if Parker did that he would also have been foolish. But Fran is being stupid with zeros on the end.

Edited September 28, 2007 by Stan R

Mean Green 93-98 · September 28, 2007

Yes, each coach does it. Do you think Parker invited everyone to that meeting. You had to be a big money contributor. Just like Beamer, Meyers, Brown, Stoops and such. They don't give info, they sell info. It makes the big money contributors feel special.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Or at least to oranges with light artificial apple flavoring. Yes, every athletic department has "perks" for its big donors. But this is not the same as a coach accepting $1200 for himself personally in exchange for inside information.

Eagle-96 · September 28, 2007

Don't be so quick to point fingers about this. I know for a fact that Dennis Parker use to meet with donors on Thursdays for home games and give access to information and would have something printed up for out of town games.
DD did something very similar to Parker and if I was a betting man Dodge does to. This is something that happens at every D1 school and there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about it.
Now with that said, there are plenty of other things to get Franchione canned, but this isn't one of them. If that was the case, there would be many schools without a coach.

To quote the article, "It offered Franchione's candid assessments of players and specific injury information, details Franchione routinely declined to discuss publicly because, he would say, it is not "our policy" to disclose injuries.

Edited September 28, 2007 by Eagle-96

OA5II · September 28, 2007

To quote the article, "It offered Franchione's candid assessments of players and specific injury information, details Franchione routinely declined to discuss publicly because, he would say, it is not "our policy" to disclose injuries.

He wasn't discussing it publicly, you had to buy it.

NT80 · September 28, 2007

I don't have a problem with him having an exclusive newsletter for big boosters, as long as the money went into the program. Most programs have big givers that get perks like sideline passes or team trips for donating something. Heck, I'd like to get a private email from TD on what's going on inside the program. Some of us have suggested that MGC donors get special access to (closed) spring practices as a perk. Nothing wrong with a perk for those that can afford to pay, again if the program benefits.

UNT_playmaker · September 28, 2007

I dont see why this thread was moved.....

UNTflyer · September 29, 2007

Don't be so quick to point fingers about this. I know for a fact that Dennis Parker use to meet with donors on Thursdays for home games and give access to information and would have something printed up for out of town games.
DD did something very similar to Parker and if I was a betting man Dodge does to. This is something that happens at every D1 school and there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about it.

But did they receive money in exchange for that information??

Smitty · September 29, 2007

DD did something very similar to Parker and if I was a betting man Dodge does to. This is something that happens at every D1 school and there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about it.

There could be legal issues.

The NCAA might frown on a coach revealing inside information that could very well be used for gambling purposes (what gambler wouldn't pay for inside informaton from a major-college coach?).

I also wonder if Coach Fran disclosed this income to the IRS. Twelve boosters at $1200 each is $14,400, and that's a lot of money to "underwrite" a website. Expensive web hosting is $30 a month. The most outrageous hosting fee I've ever heard of is $6,000. And if his staff was doing the site, then there's not cost for an outside designer or writer.

There could also be privacy considerations if he's revealing confidential medical information about his players. I suppose it could violate federal HIPAA regulations.