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I was told Tony was 1 of 20 college players that got invited.

The "star" system was created and now managed by a group of people who never stepped on a college football field and most on a high school field. One of the best QB's I have ever seen was rated 3 star...barely and NO ONE in Texas except UNT offered him. He is now at Michigan and will be the heir to Denard. Star system is for boosters to measure the success of the football team. Wins are the way the coaches measure the success of a football team.

If McCarney and his staff are as good as Corky Nelson was in identifying and developing "under the radar" talent, then we are going to be much better off than we've been in a long time. I really don't give a damn about the star system. It doesn't rate what is really important....which is a player's gut desire to get better every year.

To me, that's sort of a yes and no. We aren't winning many recruiting battles thus far. We had about five or six three-star recruits last year and none so far this year. Yet, I think that this staff can develop the talent that we are getting far in excess of those in the last ten years. And, who knows? Maybe this 'under the radar' talent is actually better than the so-called experts predict. It carried TCU for several years. So, it's important to get better talent than your competitors but it's more important to develop what you do get.

This is good stuff... I think they are taking the best players available and committing to UNT. I am starting to think that along with a good coaching staff at UNT comes molding your plan of attack to what your strengths are... I am gonna bet that with O line obviously a priority, we might actually have a healthy QB for more games...and have a running game that can compete. Against those bigger programs, depth and wearing down is what causes the smaller programs to wilt if you happen to have some sort of a miracle lead... depth in the o-line might help tremendously with the potential for an upset... obviously we need the same sort of depth up front on the d-line... we'll see... I bet with this type of depth, Chico can do some pretty decent things too... what have we bitched about for the past 8 years, we need to recruit size and speed...well, the size is there...maybe not "top end" type of commits, but this is size and hopefully coachable kids with motivation/work ethic. I trust in DMAC until it is proven we shouldn't at this point. last season bought some serious faith equity... Love the size.

http://www.northtexasfanguide.com/?DB_OEM_ID=1800 Is it just me, or does it look nicer then our athletic website? Is it time to remodel the Mean Green Athletics website?

I wonder if maybe they see a player who projects at DT in one of these 4 o line commits all at least 6'5 260+. Given their height, probably not but maybe one of these big bodies can also play DT, that would be great.

The Periodic Table of Elements couldn't have chemistry with Tom.

Harrsion Sorge, OL , Wichita Falls Rider This post has been promoted to an article

He was an even better Sheriff. Did you see his staff? It's a wonder his county didn't burn down daily.

I blame the Hip-Hop.

Texas VS Texas A&M ≠ Auburn VS GA Tech. Texas VS Texas A&M ~ Auburn VS Alabama. Could you imagine Auburn VS Alabama going away? Believe it or not, Texas VS Texas A&M is probably bigger than Texas VS Oklahoma... and there is not a school in the SEC that Aggie fans would rather beat more than Texas. That will never, ever change because you have never seen "traditions" before until you've seen the Aggies.

Give that guy a RS and a weightroom and he could very well turn out to be a real monster for us. Looks to have a good motor on him, and he certainly looks impressive on the field as a Junior. Mac & Co. sure are stacking the OL for the future.

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I am more interested in % of starts from 2011 returning.

At that time was alumni advisor for the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity. As a spirit project the fraternity had volunteered to paint Fouts Field...they painted the walls on the inside plus the steps and the railing.It was the first time it had ever been painted. Anyway, we had the radio on through the stadium speaker system as we painted the stadium (it was the same afternoon as the Tennessee game). We thought Mercer was going to have a heart attack on the radio at the end of the game. When the team got home they thought we had painted the stadium to commemorate the victory vs. the Vols.

Should it be the place of the NCAA to govern over something of this nature? It almost sounds like we're asking the NCAA to police something that really does not have very much to do with college athletics other than a college coach having access to a university's facilities. What if none of the abuses took place on university property and the only link between Sandusky and Penn State was a coach of of the football program during the time the sexual abuse took place -- should the NCAA be involved then? Punish those responsible for the cover up; they didn't follow the law by not reporting the abuses to the authorities. I don't see how or why the NCAA should ever be involved in something like this unless it directly involves a university's student athletes.

If several of these new OL guys are redshirted, our current Sophomores to be will be Seniors by the time these 2013 guys hit the field as RS Freshmen. I like the idea. Kind of reminds me of the old days at Nebraska, when their 5th year Senior hogs in the trenches were tossing their defensive opponents all over the field year after year. Mac's originally from that part of the world and maybe that's how he's thinking here.

He was a favorite of mine also. His comedy record "What It Was Was Football" was a classic as were his TV shows, "Gomer Pyle", "Mayberry, RFD", and "Matlock". RIP, Andy.

You're absolutely right about the desire factor. Nothing measures that whether it's Rivals, Scout, ESPN, 247 or anyone else that evaluates talent. It is not quantifiable. You can have the biggest, strongest and fastest at a position and if he doesn't truly give it his best he'll be a bust (at least by premier standards). But, what if the four-star player also has a lot of heart? Advantage, talent. There will be star players that will fail and there will be underrated players that will succeed because recruiting is not, nor can it ever be, an exact science. However, a much greater percentage of four-star players succeed than two-stars mostly because of their talent and work-ethic. If they didn't have the work-ethic they wouldn't be four-star players. Corky Nelson succeeded mostly when he had talent because he was able to get the most from that talent. What if he'd been able to get some of that top talent to come to North Texas? He probably wouldn't have been here very long because the Southwest Conference would've gobbled him up. Dan McCarney and his staff inspire in a way similar or better than Corky and his staff did. I think that SHOSS nailed it when he said that some of these young men will have their status elevated after their senior season and we may have some 3* players in this group. I'm hoping that's the case because I like the size of the players that have been selected. Furthermore, these players will fine-tuned by Coach Wintrich and inspired by the coaching staff. That, I don't worry about. I suppose that I'm just disappointed that we haven't competed directly against some that I'd like to beat both on the field and in the recruiting arena. Also, I have been closely following recruiting for the last few years and most of my board is committed elsewhere. Thankfully, I didn't pay for insider information this year.

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With Mitchell getting the invites to these high profile camps for the nation's top BB players, I wonder what effect this will have on the number of games UNT will have televised? Bet we get a bunch.

All stalking can be forgiven when accompanied by a scouting report. Just sayin'.

Damon Sayes from ESPN Recruiting tweeted me "#UNT definitely on the rise. Sorge a great get. RT: @J__Perc: "@DamonSayles What do you think of UNT's recruiting class so far#MeanGreen"

If your gonna stalk, you coiuld at least provide a stalking (aka: scouting) report. Jeez...

"I have no idea about this Fall, but Fry's 2'nd year disaster (2 wins) keeps coming up in my mind for some reason and (ultimately) I hope that's all it is--a false premonition. I hope that Coach Mac avoids or overcomes what many NCAA coach's have happen in their 2'nd year". Plum eat lots more fiber- this too will pass!

Reading through the comments, there are a few folks throwing out the argument that punishing the school now only punishes innocent players and coaches. I am so sick of that crap line of argument. As Tasty and TFLF have pointed out already, release all players to transfer with immediate eligibility. I don't know what the right penalty is, or if the NCAA is out of it's jurisdiction here....but I do think that the perception backlash against collegiate athletics will be severe if the NCAA does nothing. It's been a bad couple of years with Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, Ohio St, Miami, Oregon, etc forwarding the perception that you *must* cheat to win at the highest levels of collegiate athletics. This is an example of a university administration knowingly putting the school's reputation above the law. At what point does it all come to a head?? I think you may see the NCAA act now because it will be more afraid of the future implications of doing nothing. Then again, maybe they gamble that this all blows over after these men are brought to justice for the cover up?

This is my thought. Get the biggest, best athetes available, and figure out positions as you go. Shear numbers would indicate at least one of these young men move to the other side of the ball.

Love it.

Personally, I'm glad to see McCarney focus on offensive linemen. Hope he creates a rotation. I've always been critical of Dickey and Dodge not bringing in enough, quality linemen. Sure, they would sign 2-3 good ones each class, but on occasion we would have one drop from the program for whatever reason. Other programs bring in several big linemen each year. I know. I've watched them manhandle our DL on many occasions. And don't forget, none of these recruits have signed on the dotted line. I also think DMac needs to shift focus to DL, QB, and LB.

I was at the Houston and Cal Poly games that year. What many people keep forgetting (or didn't realize) was that (as far as the state of Texas was concerned) the Houston win (28-0) was as big, if not bigger than the Tennessee game. Houston had been (as an Independent) tearing it up and had been admitted to the SWC. They won the SWC title the next year (76) in their first outing as a full member. The Houston game was where we lost Kenny Washington. He was hurt when Houston took a cheap shot at him. In fact, I believe it was their All-American DT Wilson Whitley who piled his fat butt on top of Washington after the whistle had blown. Between that and other injuries (I think in the Miss St. game the next week) we were playing with a 3rd string QB against Tennessee. Considering that no one had ever heard of Cal Poly Pomona, much less knew anything about their football team, it wasn't hard to understand us having a slow start in that game. One thing I remembered about that game was that Cal Poly had the largest OL in the NCAA that year. I think they averaged over 250#. I remember that they had at least one 300# tackle on their team. I remember thinking "geezz this is going to be a freak show".

Everyone that moved advanced or they wouldn't have paid the fee. In a sense there were only two losers...New Mexico State and Idaho. Even if the conference was weakened I don't see anyone taking much of a cut in TV revenue. If you didn't advance; there's an old adage that says you can't lose what you didn't have. The airlines even win as each conference becomes more widespread. Is this a great country, or what?

Still, that's only 4 home games with the only one worth a flip being Houston. I'd take this year's schedule a million times over '75s, even if it means no win @ Neyland.

It's nice to see a recruit that is respectful. Boone seems to be a high character guy, and we all know he has the talent. I think he will be a great Eagle, not only on the field, but in the classroom.

Freaking awesome. I'm so happy for Tony! He deserves it. North Texas deserves to have this young man repping for the mean green nation....

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where can i get the ticket? is there a particular place (Hotel) for the mean green to stay in?

That's alright, we've got Nelson, Siddons, Walker and Sorge. Welcome to all these young men. Now let's work on the DL Coach Mac.

awesome!

Here he is going up against Mario Edwards the nations number 1 recruit last year. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/90478/#highlights/2710540

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As an old Wichita Falls boy, it really makes me feel good to see coach Mac and his assistants working that area. There is some great football tradition at the Old High School as well, but Rider High is obviously a place to find some big time talent.

Ok, who has a copy of the radio broadcast of this? Any video?

It's a chicken vs egg argument. We haven't seen any "coverage sacks" lately either.

Did any of the musicians play the banjo theme song to the movie "Deliverance" while our guys were in the Smokey Mountains of Tennessee that afternoon kickin' butt, Phil? GMG!

http://www.northtexasfanguide.com Margatitas??? Congrats coaches.. any chance I could possibly attend. Besides that "honest" mistake i'm sure.. I really like this.. thank you to whomever has put all the effort into this and the Interactive map.

Daughter and I are already signed up. Last year was a blast, Coach Mac is a hoot! Been to every women's clinic since DD started 'em up in the old days as football 101. I think this is the eighth year. GMG!

Here's some food for thought. Just something for discussion.

I'd give them a one year death penalty, reinstating only after all personnel invloved in the coverup were gone - that includes the assistant McQueary. After that, I'd have a two year television ban, and a three year bowl ban. Joe Paterno and the program benefitted from not telling the truth for many years. We now know they all covered for the sake of the program and school. So, it makes no difference to me that the program would be damaged competitively by a death penalty, and lack of television and bowls. The program thought so little of vulnerable human beings, why should it matter to anyone that the program suffers? I'd allow every Penn State player on scholarship to be able to transfer anywhere they wished in that four year window. To me, it's a big deal that kids were abused with the full knowledge of several adults. The punishment should go beyond just the school paying the victims cash.

But the thing I want to point out is that none of the abuses involved a student athlete of the Penn State Athletics program. Yes, school athletic facilities were at Sandusky's disposal and administrators at various levels turned a blind eye including Athletic administrators, but still no student athletes were involved. In the case dealing with the Baylor basketball murder it involved a student athlete, so I feel the NCAA was right to step in and levy penalties. Since some of you are out for blood, what kind of penalty should be levied against Penn State? Should it be just the football program or should the women's volleyball team also be punished?