Jackson's Reign Has It's Ups, Downs

[FirefightnRick]

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/10/4612552/university-of-north-texas-health.html

....""His hiring [of top UNT officials] has been great; his firings have been lousy -- because it often involved the same people," said Burle Pettit, a retired Lubbock newspaper editor who was on the board of regents when Jackson was named chancellor. "Everyone who reported to him had a way of never pleasing him....."

Rick

[Harry]

great find...I learned more about Jackson in that article than I have read or heard about him since he was hired.

Good Lee Jackson History article.

+1

[wardly]

Rick,thanks for great post.

[adman]

"I once had a leader of a rural university tell me, 'Lee, if we had opportunities you have in Dallas-Fort Worth, I could raise a billion dollars for my university."

Let's find that rural university leader and replace Jackson with him/her.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/10/4612552/university-of-north-texas-health.html#storylink=cpy

[SilverEagle]

"But the UNT System board of regents has backed him, and the system has racked up an impressive list of accomplishments on his watch: system-wide enrollment growth of 28 percent, a doubling of enrollment at a growing UNT Health Science Center campus in Fort Worth,

Shouldn't Ransom be given credit for that?

new buildings including a football stadium in Denton, the opening of a UNT Dallas campus and new law, pharmacy and health profession schools."

Why does he get credit for the Football stadium? Did he sit down with Flyer and the SGA and help them draft the wording for the petition that the students voted on? The only thing he should get credit for on the stadium was not meddling in the process.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/10/4612552/university-of-north-texas-health.html#storylink=cpy

[MeanGreenTexan]

"But the UNT System board of regents has backed him, and the system has racked up an impressive list of accomplishments on his watch: system-wide enrollment growth of 28 percent, a doubling of enrollment at a growing UNT Health Science Center campus in Fort Worth,

Shouldn't Ransom be given credit for that?

new buildings including a football stadium in Denton, the opening of a UNT Dallas campus and new law, pharmacy and health profession schools."

Why does he get credit for the Football stadium? Did he sit down with Flyer and the SGA and help them draft the wording for the petition that the students voted on? The only thing he should get credit for on the stadium was not meddling in the process.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/10/4612552/university-of-north-texas-health.html#storylink=cpy

Basically, if you had ANYTHING to do with the University at the time of the student vote and getting Apogee built, that place is a feather in your cap. It's not hard to see why. The place is awesome.

But you're absolutely correct Silver. I believe Lee's biggest contribution to the building of that stadium is not getting in the way.

I think Lee needs to go before Benford.

[untbowler]

"But the UNT System board of regents has backed him, and the system has racked up an impressive list of accomplishments on his watch: system-wide enrollment growth of 28 percent, a doubling of enrollment at a growing UNT Health Science Center campus in Fort Worth,

Shouldn't Ransom be given credit for that?

new buildings including a football stadium in Denton, the opening of a UNT Dallas campus and new law, pharmacy and health profession schools."

Why does he get credit for the Football stadium? Did he sit down with Flyer and the SGA and help them draft the wording for the petition that the students voted on? The only thing he should get credit for on the stadium was not meddling in the process.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/10/4612552/university-of-north-texas-health.html#storylink=cpy

Not sure why he should get credit for the football stadium when he allowed a lousy bill to ham string UNT on the athletics fee unlike any other university in TX.

[UNT90]

Not sure why he should get credit for the football stadium when he allowed a lousy bill to ham string UNT on the athletics fee unlike any other university in TX.

THIS!!!

The ONLY role he had was protecting that student fee when it hit the legislature, and he FAILED MISERABLY!

I really don't see us being successful in football or basketball again until wholesale changes are made to the BOR and Dallas Lee is given his walking papers.

They don't care enough to make any commitment toward athletics.

[FirefightnRick]

BTW, this report was the front page feature of today's Startlegram.

And I thought one the more interesting parts was about how great LJ got along with John Wiley Price.

Rick

[SilverEagle]

BTW, this report was the front page feature of today's Startlegram.

And I thought one the more interesting parts was about how great LJ got along with John Wiley Price.

Rick

I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. He can get along with JWP, but he can't get along with the very people that he hired?

Three words come to mind.....arrogant and big ego.

[emmitt01]

"But you're absolutely correct Silver. I believe Lee's biggest contribution to the building of that stadium is not getting in the way."

Now who else shares this trait?

[Mean Green Matt]

What are the ups of Jackson's reign?

[GL2Greatness]

What are the ups of Jackson's reign?

for the Denton campus pretty much nothing....one can talk about enrollment growth, but every university in Texas is experiencing enrollment growth and many of the larger ones are growing at a faster rate than north Texas-Denton and those schools do not seem to be suffering the same quality issues related to that growth.....and there was the decline in enrollment from 2010-11 that most if not all other large universities in Texas did not experience and the growth has still not caught back up to the 2010 numbers in 2012......most of that growth loss was in post-baccalaureate students and in masters candidates and masters candidates conduct a large amount of research at most universities and the lack of growth in research is probably partially related to the decline in masters candidates

there is the mention of the dallas campus, but that campus was never needed and is still not needed today and it has been an independent university for 4 years now and "enrollment growth" is actually -9 students in that 4 years enrollment in 2009 was 2109 students, 2010 it was 2084, 2011 it was 2032 (so three straight years of declines in enrollments nothing says "need" like declining enrollment year after year......in 2012 there was "growth" to 2100 students.....so over 4 years there was a negative growth rate of -9 students.......again nothing says "need" like declining enrollments over 4 years

compare that to the other two universities that became freestanding schools after starting as system centers......TAMU-Central Texas and TAMU-SA

TAMU-Central Texas was 2188, 2137, 2096, 2253 from 2009-12

TAMU-SA was 2343, 3120, 3554, 4116......so at least TAMU-Central Texas has had mostly positive growth and positive growth over a 4 year period and TAMU-SA is doing way better than the dallas crap......oh yea and one key difference.......both of those TAMU schools are upper division schools VS the dallas campus that is a full 4 year school......so even with a much larger pool of potential candidates it still lags badly compared especially to SA......just pathetic the amount of time and state and "system" (Denton campus students) resources that have been wasted in dallas

so really the dallas campus is pretty much a failure and has been since it started and will continue to be

the law school is not a success because it STILL has NOT been funded to open and there is ZERO guarantee it will be funded to open this budget session.....it is such a "success" that north Texas has had to twice delay when they would "accept students" because twice it has not been funded to open by the legislature

and the fact is te law school is NOT needed, it was NEVER needed, it will NOT be needed long into the future and it is another giant waste of resources already and IF it is funded to actually open this year or two years from now or ever it will be a joke and a failure and another large waste of education resources.....hardly a "success" opening yet another thing that is not needed and is just a waste.....not to mention that lee the idiot failed to get in writing the dallas promise to help renovate the old muny building and dallas has now welched on that promise (even though lee is this well connected dallas guy) so the "system" is wasting money to renovate the UCD upper floors and then still wants to eventually move to the muny building if dallas ever comes up with money to help renovate it.....which would leave the renovated upper UCD floors useless and vacant

and the UCD has declined greatly under lee the idiot because north Texas bought the building against the advice of the THECB and then even though they promised the THECB they would be friendly t alll the other UCD participating universities they pretty much ran off MidWestern, TWU, UTD, and they have jacked up the rent on TAMU-Commerce, the Denton campus and UTA is basically only running one program out of there now and will probably eventually pull out

ans TAMU-Commerce is already shopping for another building because lee the idiot has been so hard to work with and as the emails that were brought to light from the FOI request Dr. B was actually going to pull the Denton campus out of the UCD for the same reasons and that is part of why she was fired

the Denton campus basically footed the bill to buy the UCD, they footed the bill to renovate it, and now the reward for that is increased rents paid to the "system".....some bargain that was haha

the only true success under lee the idiot is the pharmacy degree program and of course that will NOT go to Denton it will either go to Fort Worth and then eventually dallas (the new flagship) or it will stay in Fort Worth, but either way they are already selling the program as something to transfer into after getting your first two years of schooling at community college and not a single hint of starting in Denton and then transferring in

two of the three components are without presidents and the Denton campus has a retired guy riding the pine going through the motions and coming up with tag lines, cold hotdogs and swag bags as accomplishments

so the only single real "up" is the pharmacy program that is distancing as far as it can from Denton and the rest of the successes are massive failures and waste of large amounts of money on crap that is not needed, never was needed, and will not be needed long into the future and "system building" at the expense of the Denton campus and at a financial and quality cost to the Denton students

and the single most important he was said to be hired for "fund raising connections" still continues to be a giant joke topped off recently by the bill lively fiasco and just growing worse by the day, week, month, and year

[UNTLifer]

I knew GL2G would come along soon enough and write one of his mini-novels, is that called a novella?, anyway, that nobody will take the time to read. How about trying bullet points or something to shorten your posts?

[MeanGreenTexan]

beginning to wonder if GL2G is someone who was employed here while Dr. B was president, then canned when Dr. B left. That seems to be about the time CheckFacts came along...

[forevereagle]

for the Denton campus pretty much nothing....one can talk about enrollment growth, but every university in Texas is experiencing enrollment growth and many of the larger ones are growing at a faster rate than north Texas-Denton and those schools do not seem to be suffering the same quality issues related to that growth.....and there was the decline in enrollment from 2010-11 that most if not all other large universities in Texas did not experience and the growth has still not caught back up to the 2010 numbers in 2012......most of that growth loss was in post-baccalaureate students and in masters candidates and masters candidates conduct a large amount of research at most universities and the lack of growth in research is probably partially related to the decline in masters candidates

[EagleGreen]

LJ has more to do with all this "stuff" than you would think. None of it gets done without legislative approval. Bottom line. Nobody is better at prioritizing needs and getting top priorities funded than Lee Jackson. Done Deal. Knowing how to get things approved in the legislature and knowing how to move the needle on a legislative "no" , is key to being a chancellor, and he's done well.

[MeanGreenTexan]

LJ has more to do with all this "stuff" than you would think. None of it gets done without legislative approval. Bottom line. Nobody is better at prioritizing needs and getting top priorities funded than Lee Jackson. Done Deal. Knowing how to get things approved in the legislature and knowing how to move the needle on a legislative "no" , is key to being a chancellor, and he's done well.

[wardly]

Jackson's job is to do whats best for the system.not the Denton campus. Our law school is no longer needed since we got out maneuvered by A&M. No shame in that. The South Dallas campus was a Royce West deal to begin with[.We actually beat our Texas Tech and I think A&M for the honor of owning this money pit.] Bad business decision.To me,his capstone is the school of pharmacy,which is actually needed. If he is able to convert our Ft. Worth Health Science from a D.O. program to M.D.,another major accomplishment.Everyone works for someone,and Jackson works for the B.O.R.,which has backed his every decision.I can only assume that his job performance is satisfactory otherwise he would be history.Any other conclusion appears to be mere speculation. Just an old mans opinion.