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Folks; I just received notice of a historic event for UNT. The invitation was titled "History Will Be Made" and it refers to the announcement on August 15th of the single largest private commitment to UNT that it has ever received. I am extremely excited about this and cannot wait to find out the details of this historic gift for the university. Folks, GREAT THINGS are truly happening at UNT these days, and it is a great time to be a member of the Mean Green Nation. People are definitely noticing the greatness that is YOUR UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS!!!! Be proud...be Green! GO MEAN GREEN & WHY NOT NORTH TEXAS INDEED!!!!! Click here to view the article

I love Blakeley's legacy as much as anyone can that did not personally witness it. But, I'm not on board with naming the court after anyone at this time. I'm not sure anyone has earned that honor. Especially since we've never had a coach win an NCAA tournament game.

Because maybe they're brand new to the whole North Texas thing and are coming by to check it out, you know, potentially thereby increasing the fan base. Please, for the love of all things, refrain from posting photos of people in the stadium wearing the wrong color. It doesn't make people want to return. Unless there are 30,000 people on GMG.com that can fill the new stadium every game whilst wearing the perfect shade of green as measured by some secret laboratory, let people wear what they want to wear. They'll get the green shirts soon enough once they become repeat customers.

In college basketball, if you win every game starting from your conference tournament opening round, you will be the national champion. No such scenario exists in college football. The greatest competition in college athletics determines its champion based on opinion polls.

Uh, we are not even close to set at QB. We have an unproven redshirt Soph starting, who I think will do great, but we don't know that. We have a JC transfer as a backup and probably a true freshman as our #3 after Fall workouts (Cooper Jones), with a senior walk -on (Baine) who just got on scholarship this year and a true freshman (McNaulty) that will probably enventually be switched to defense. Not exactly set. If this kid is looking to transfer and start right away, then he will be going the FCS rout, as nothing like that will be promised from a FBS school. If he is confident in his talent, then we are probably one of the best spots for him.

I totally agree....Riley is not a quitter. I went to all 12 games last season. He played to the best of his ability while dealing with a number of injuries. Considering the circumstances, transferring from North Texas was in his best interest.

Let's just go ahead and forget about him again.

Four pages of debate over something that is pretty clearly a bit. So envious of GreenP1 right now...

Maybe that's why the lettering on the outside of the stadium that says Univeristy of North Texas is so small. They left room for the Sponsor or Name of the stadium. They could have know that this was coming and planned ahead.

Tense.

Just spitballin', but was it Hayden Fry to Kenny Lyons? No one's ever around to set me straight on my history.

I hope it's baseball

Thank you. Too many people around here want to act like Forrest Rucker never existed.

Its not a thread about our traditions, so really it is kinda of new. You know, kind of different from everyday posts about how everything at our alma mater is just perfect, terrific, or going to be the best real soon...

Seems to be doing well for himself.

I assumed most of this quitter crap is done in jest, no one who ever watched Riley at all could question his courage. He was a Parade All American who chose to forgo a ship at UT to play for his father at NT, that should give you a pretty good feel of his relationship with his father. Once here he did nothing but give his all to the team. I wish he would have stayed at NT but I can certainly understand why he didn't. Some of you seem to forget his effort and his playing hurt for NT after his dad was fired. I hope he is very successful at McNeese and sets all kinds of records but now my focus is all the players and coaching staff that are at NT now.

Listen, I'm not calling him a quitter at all. I understand unforeseen circumstances. My point was just that if you're calling RD a quitter you must do the same for Mitchell. And if he doesn't exhaust his eligibility here what would everyone be saying then about him? I'll bet we'll say he's doing what's best for him and his family... And thank him for his time here and what he did for our program.

Yeah, well... he got what he wanted, didn't he? An invite to an AQ BCS conference, so what does he have to worry about now?

Jeez, where have journalistic standards gone?

Meh, pants I do not understand. Looks like they should be for Cincinnati.

http://collegehoopsnet.com/jon-teitels-forgotten-legends-series-north-texas-kenneth-lyons-169281 JT: Do you think that anyone will ever break your scoring and rebounding records? KL: I do not think that anyone will ever break my records. If a player is good enough now as I was back then, there is no way they would go to North Texas.

UTA has always given NT great games. I do wonder if UTA doesn't lose a big advantage they enjoyed playing at the very unusual Stage. I guess UTA felt that moving away from the Southland would help them grow their athletic program. I wonder if the WAC with it increased expenses even with 3 close teams is going to be worth it for UTA. The WAC was a great move for TSSM and UTSA as a conference affiliation is the only way a school can move up to the FB Division. The benefits to UTA are a lot less apparent although NMSU and Utah State are very good basketball programs. I have been to more games at the Stage then any other venue other than at NT, I will actually miss the place. UTA's attendance with the exception of the Gales vs Legrand series ages ago has always been pathetic. It will be interesting to see if the new arena will improve interest. As is the case of the new NT football stadium any attendance boost will be short lived if the programs don't improve.

If on the athletic side, I tend to agree. That, or a substantial chunk toward the football stadium; which, in turn, will also allow us to start up a baseball program posthaste. If on the academic side, I hope it's research funding that will push us to Tier 1 status in that criterion.

This would not be true if the NCAA would get rid of the bowl games in Detroit, Boise, and similar cold weather cities in the dead of winter. Bowl games are great, except the ones in cities that suck. Remove or move those games and you can't make this claim. There's no way in HELL that I'd have a better time watching a game on TV, than travelling to a well done bowl game. The likelyhood of the smaller schools being included in any playoff that the Big Boys sign off on is slim to none. You're letting the ABC/ESPNs of the world pull your jock on this thing. We've reached the saturation point with non-stop, 24x7x365, sports commentary that most of these idiots just try to invent stuff to discuss. It'll eventually turn the tide of public opinion so strong that the school presidents have no choice BUT to go to a playoff. The thing is, nobody really wants it but the shock jocks. The Big Boys are scared to death of it. The little guys don't trust it. The TV rights would be astronomical and I bet the TV execs are drooling over the prospect of it, but only one broadcast company would end up winning the rights to it. The rest would be shut out of post season college football.

Good luck Riley. I enjoyed watching you play here at NT the past couple of years.

Baseball? Name attached to the field? Financing of helmet stickers?

He also threw a TD pass against Texas. Can anyone recall the last time we threw a TD pass against UTexas before then?

I'm well aware that not too long ago we had 2 teams in the NCAA and WKU was in the sweet 16. All SunBelt Football talent is a long way off from competing at that level. I think there are inherent differences in the games of basketball and football that make a playoff system not impossible, but particularly challenging for football. I think the main thing you want is for non-autobid conferences to have autobids to the BCS party. There are 2 division 1 leagues. FCS and FBS. One has a playoff system, one has a bowl system. Is the Bowl system a sham, corrupt, a cartel, and outdated? Yes. Can we do something about it? Yes, but I don't think the answer is to get rid of bowls. It's to make sure that there is inclusion and that it can crown an evident national champion. A +1 system and making sure the money is distributed to all institutions and not the bowl committees are the 2 most important things to me as a fan. 4 games as a fan of UNT (lets imagine they won a 16 seed in that playoff system) is brutal. I want to make every game I possibly can. Which one do I go to? The first one, which has us playing Florida at the swamp? or do I hold out until we make the national championship or the next round? God knows I couldn't afford to go to all 4 and not many other fans could either. The solution cannot add games to the season. A +1 would add 1 game for all the marbles. The likelihood of any team riding a streak for 4 games where they play out of their minds is beyond improbable. In basketball all it takes is 1 or 2 guys to play out of their minds. And it has the great equalizer; the 3 point shot.

A playoff system would even out the competition level in college football (as long as every conference champion was included), just as it has in college basketball. You think Butler ever gets national recognition (and a huge, huge recruiting boost) that they got after the 2010 run if there was a "bowl system" in college basketball? Butler as programs like them (See: UNT) would be afterthoughts to recruits who would not even look their way (you know, kinda like college football recruiting is now). Does anyone really thing Chris Jones, Jordan Williams, Forrest Robinson, or even Tony Mitchell (transcript problems and all) would be at UNT if there wasn't a chance for them to compete in the tournament against the best of the best? Hell no, they wouldn't. Think about the prospect of being able to sell a 4 star football recruit on being able to play sooner and still have the chance to compete against the big boys of college football in a playoff: "Son, with recruits like you, we know we can win OUR conference. Now, if you go play at UT, you may start your senior year, and your path to the tournament will be a lot more difficult. Come and play for us. We will get to that tournament, and anything can happen once we are there." Think if it is a 16 team tourney like many have proposed. That means 4 wins to the title. You can sell a recruit with that. The reason the basketball tourney keeps getting expanded is because 1) It's a huge money maker for EVERYONE involved, and 2) even with expansion, the competiton has not suffered. Do I think that this would be immediate in football? No. It would take at least 5 years for the playing field to start to equal out. Would I be excited about a 1st round playoff game against OU in Norman? Hell ya!!! Why? Because we will be a conference champion and anything can happen. How fun would that pregame be? This is why the BCS schools don't want a playoff. THey don't want to share the wealth and are terrified of lossing the huge competitive and monetary advantage that they now have over the non-BCS schools. Why do coaches like Coach Mac not want it? 2 reasons: 1) first and foremost, self preservation. They see the possibility of ending the season with a 52-0 loss after winning the conference championship instead of a bowl win in the Who-Gives-A-Crap Toilet Bowl and fear that this will damage their standing at their current job and their prospects for a future job. 2) People don't like change, and they are comfortable in this system and fear the unknown. A 16 team playoff including all conference champions would level the field in college football. Problem is, none of the big boys want that to happen.

Basketball has a large enough sample size to do the playoff seeding. I don't know if colleges play enough games against outside competition to accurately seed a playoff system of only 16 teams. We'd have about 50 disappointed "bubble teams". Put me down as a fan of the +1 game. It could mean money and a return to prominence for the cotton bowl and a true national champion.

Technically Tony Mitchell didn't quit on anything...

Told you. All trolls go native at some point.

My point, and reason for feeling the way I do, is that I refuse to label someone with such a negative word for choosing family over self. Would it have been easier for him to stay at a school he's comfortable with, in the offense he already knows, with a coach who knows him, and a team already supporting him? I guess that's the point of argument but I believe so. Did he leave our team and join another? Yes. So those of you claiming his label as quitter is simply a factual statement will point to that and smile as if you've won the argument. But, the tone with which you call him a quitter proves that you're not just stating fact but also implying weakness in his character or person. So, please, next time you get excited about Tony Mitchell or Tyler Stradford remember that according to your own rules, they are quitters to. And we don't like quitters at North Texas.

Weren't we set at QB last season?

While getting beat by 30 in my rec game tonight I witnessed the greatest basketball player I've ever seen in person (not in the NBA)... Tony Mitchell. While playing in front of a crowd of about 100, at about 30% effort, he showed just how much better he was than anyone on that court. You can just tell that he is legit NBA prospect. My favorite was his between the legs power dunk on a fast break. I heart him. The end.

I read a post on the internet regarding Baylor's new uni's and the overriding comment was "when you have no history or tradition, you can have 11 different uniforms".

I was pushing for xenophile.

It's tradition bro.

Adios, Mark Stroman.

Effective July 25th the North Texas AthleticTicket Office will be relocated to the northwest corner of Mean Green Stadium.

UT & TAMU are joined at the hip. Who's going to perform the surgery down in Austin where our politicians gather? It would be intriguing to see both go independent, though, because we should already know what one does the other soon will duplicate? For those 2 schools to go Indy' would IMHO open bigger doors (better conference/better known opponents all season long) for UNT quicker that otherwise most of us 'boomers will be long gone to see happen in Mean Green Country. The stadium is nice but for what has been going on in the NCAA last few years to the present we're still behind where we should have been. NOTE: Who is going to invite Gene Stallings to our new stadium debut game? Former UNT Board of Regent Winn Brown (now deceased) told me at a North Texas function that we should have made our dramatic move upward post our Abner Haynes/Sun Bowl era. I always wondered why it didn't happened post Joe Greene era teams when North Texas should have vaulted upward to never look backwards again; and that was while Hayden Fry was still at SMU. The UNT Mean Green had as good a college football team in NCAA D1 in 1968 that there was when our level of talent had all but defeated the "almost" NCAA National Championship Arkansas Razorbacks that same Fall. Wouldn't we all (who were around) have loved to have also seen seen North Texas play the Houston Cougars back in that same 1968 season? From Good Will Hunting the word...Ironical was that....neither UT or Arkansas had 1 black player on their 1968 teams while UNT and UH had already integrated. UH with Warren McVae in 1965 and UNT with Abner Haynes 10 years earlier. Darrell K. Royal's 1969 Texas Longhorn NCAA National Football Championship team would the the last year UT had an all white team, too. Nevertheless, there are just some things about our program's athletic history I know many of us will never quite fathom; that is, why our leaders always seemed to want to retreat after we had reached some fairly impressive plateaus. That modus operendi on our leaders part became enough to have made many, many, many of our alums through those decades just say....screw it; so they fell in line with many other Texans to support the 2 Permanent University Funded state university darlins'. Just sayin'..

Maybe they don't need A&M per se, but it is a fact that they are drooling at the prospect. A&M has an open door anytime they want. Clemson is already good to go as the 14th team whenever the Aggies are ready to jump ship.

Well, “Bro”, thanks for taking the time to provide such an enlightening response. I don’t agree with your, and others, belief that Riley was a quitter……. But I do believe this……….. Those of you that feel this way, who keep badmouthing the kid – that you in a similar circumstance, with all that was swirling about him – would do EXACTLY what Riley Dodge chose to do! I do believe that, Bro………

And I guess it is officially "Mean Green Stadium"

1. Robertson is a stadium that even an MLS team is embarrassed to play in. It is a glorified high school stadium built in 1942. Even Stevie Wonder thinks it looks like a piece of crap. 2. Who cares what houston fans think about our new palace. We've waited far too long for this to become a reality to worry about what a team that plays in a stadium that makes Fouts look like the Taj Mahal thinks. If you switched from driving an exploding Pinto to a Corvette but your neighbor, who rides a burro around town, says he prefers Porches to Corvettes would you give a f£#% about his opinion? I know I don't.

times 4...

Derek Thompson is going to have a great season this year.

Wha..... ??

In class 15 hours, study for 45 hours, sleep for 8 hours a night still leaves around 50 hours a week to eat, meet an attractive reason to stay in Denton for a few years, and work on basketball. Two rec games a week isn't goint to take away from study time.

Let him know I will offer free tutoring.