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This is an interesting pickup for us. This guy doesn’t conform to the typical transfer profile that we should be focusing on: highly productive player at a low-major/D2 or a formerly productive player at high-major/mid-major who needs a change of scenery. Brock Vice has played ZERO real college basketball. But finding a player who can be productive for us at the center position is going to take some creativity. Need to replace Tylor Perry or Jason Edwards? Not fun, but there are LOTS of fast young men 5’9 or taller who can dribble and shoot that the marketplace has undervalued. Ross Hodge can take his pick. There just aren’t very many 18-24 year-old humans who are 6’9 or taller. And the marketplace places a very high price on those who are that tall AND possess any degree of athleticism or basketball skill. Which brings us back to Brock Vice, who redshirted on a VERY good Creighton team that finished 25-10 last season (second-place in the Big East). The starting center on that team was Ryan Kalkbrenner, a 7’1 monster who averaged 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots a game. His backup also put up good numbers in very limited minutes. So Vice hasn’t been a productive college player yet, but atleast he has a good excuse. With both players in front of him on the depth chart eligible to come back to Creighton next season, Vice needs a change of scenery to get his oversized sneakers on the court. He’s 6-10. Can rebound AND shoot. Was an outstanding high school and AAU basketball player. And has enough meat on his bones and athleticism to have been a standout high school football player. This is exactly the kind of kid that Ross should be landing. We did not have a player like this guy on our team last season and it hurt us all year. Welcome to Denton!

1: One big problem with the NIL (aka pay for play) is that the universities are what draw the fans, not the players. People argue that "they deserve a piece of the pie", etc., but the big money comes from rabid fans and alumni of the schools, not from fans wanting to watch certain players. I wish they would form a minor league football and see how much interest there is...wait, we already have that. It's called the XFL, USFL, UFL and the players don't make much money ($5,500/wk) and there aren't many fans at the games. Put the Rengades in Alabama uniforms and the Stallions in Auburn uniforms and you'd sell out AT&T stadium. Why, because the players don't matter, the universities are what matter (as it pertains to attendance). Another example is the NBA D-League. What kind of money are those guys making? (I'll save you the Google search, they make $25K/yr). I have to assume that's peanuts compared to many of the NIL deals players are getting. If you want to get paid, go pro. Nobody is making you go to college to get a free education that will benefit you for the rest of your life. 2: I hate the argument that "coaches make big money and can leave for another job whenever they want to." See the last two sentences of the previous point. If you want to be able to do that, go pro. Make it your career just like the coaches have done. There are a very limited number of head coaching jobs at the college level and these coaches have put in LONG hours and worked their way up to the positions that they are in. Nobody was giving them millions of dollars when they were a GA busting their tail for nothing.

Ok, everyone.... Sit down. Take a deep breath. Light a nice smelling candle and rub some jasmine oil on your temples. Close your eyes and think of a babbling brook...feel the anxiety washing down that stream and away from you. Now, open your eyes, and let this settle in. HE'S NOT WRONG AND A G5 LEAGUE IS NOT THE SAME AS 1-AA

Layne's grandmother is bravely battling cancer and his decision was based on staying closer to her and the rest of the family as they support her during this difficult time. UNT did the right thing for this young man by letting him out of his signed NLI.

and Yeah same, but there's plenty of people who attended college before plate tectonics were a widely accepted theory and it definitely shows. Coffee and TV 5/2/2024 @ 11:18am Thanks for proving it by calling those with which you disagree "dorks". The Israeli's wouldn't be conducting their military operations if the Hamas led Palestinians hadn't taken action on October 7th. So, in the effort to engage in honest discussion, address the following: 1. Where were the protests when the actions of October 7th occurred? 2. Who is stating there shouldn't be peaceful protests? 3. Why don't the neighbors of Gaza, such as Egypt, accept Palestinian refugees? 4. I would challenge the claim that genocide against the Palestinians is taking place. I would argue that Israel's intent is to eradicate Hamas.

Tony Mitchell under an inspiring coach and quality nucleus.

Give you? This player disrespected Longwood and shows no loyalty or commitment. And you're fine with it... . . . . .

Don’t kid yourself, Cougar King. There is no “P4”. There is the SEC. The Big 10. And then everyone else. The ACC and Big 12 are just as irrelevant as the rest of G5 in football now and will only become more so…

Don't know if yall saw but this dude will be joining the Mean Green. Stats speaks for themselves. Guy is a BALLER. HODGE AND CO are putting in that WORK.

Good luck to Rubin @ Michigan. Thanks for the memories. Just curious why he just didn't walk on at Michigan from Yates HS if he loved the history and family feel so much. Had a very good career at Yates but Michigan wasn't around when only UTEP, UNT and Nichols State came calling.

SCRAP 'EM!!! I'll excuse myself, I had some free time at work....

Ok but UNT athletics should be out there handing out magnetic 2024 football schedules to students and promoting the softball team who is really good - I mean targeted engagement here right? #bringingitbacktosports

Good pick up for Hodge and co. Dude balled out at SFA. Just take a look at his highlights.

I fixed it for you and added SMU when the ACC folds!

Let's all take a quick break and listen to a little beautiful music loved by all Americans. Students proving that you don't have to be from Pangea to be a good person.

Guess we will see if it is treated in the same manner as the thread I started. I have no problem with their choice to demonstrate, but don't set up shanty town on campus, no violence, no vandalism, no removal of the American flag and replaced with the Palestinian flag, no breaking into campus buildings and UNT telling them what they can do with their "demands". Also, I would like these demonstrators to explain their support of a terrorist led group that raped women, beheaded innocent people, placed babies in ovens and buried them alive and uses women, children and hospitals as shields against attacks. Last, any protestors that prove to be agitators or commit any of the acts above, and are students, to be expelled from UNT. Those that are not students and commit any of these acts should be arrested for trespassing.

It's not been reported over there yet....but we lost another b-ball player to the portal y'day (Terrence Dixon). He played very little. But, as of this point......that will mean, if no one else leaves......9 new players in basketball next year. And, I'm guessing it's gonna be close to 50 new players in football this season. To me, that's not sustainable. You have to have some kind of relationship with the players. They can't all be "rentals."

Did Morris lie to the kid about us having a baseball program?

Sounds like he was a pretty good prospect coming out of high school. "Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay. The 6-foot-10 power forward Brock Vice (Germantown, Tenn. / Houston HS) has signed a National Letter of Intent to attend Creighton and play for the Bluejays. He's ranked as the nation's No. 33 best center prospect by 247Sports and the No. 3 overall player in the state of Tennessee" Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay (247sports.com)

Very defeatist attitude. Maybe you feel that way in private but saying it publicly doesn’t exactly endear you to fans.

I’m 100% okay with the Big Ten/SEC (and change) breaking off and with regional rivalries taking over. I don’t know how sustainable it is financially, but I’d watch Tulane/Tulsa over Vanderbilt/VaTech any day of the week.

You are just looking for reasons to be pissy. He redshirted his freshman year and then played for us for 4 years after that starting 35 games in that span. He used his free covid year (after he had already served his 5 years to play 4 here) to go to one of the top 20 academic universities in the nation where was on the SEC academic honor roll. Great young man and I am proud to call him a North Texas alumnus.

Add to that, green card cancelation and deportation for non citizens. Peaceful protest all day long will get respectful notice. Violence should not be tolerated. At all.

Second pick-up of the day, fourth overall from the transfer portal. I like the assists number. Hopefully Hodge and Forte get our offense moving more with guys like Floyd. Edit: This guy also has junior college experience AND winning. He won a NJCAA national championship with Northwest Florida State College. He's also from Tampa, so we could have a lot of supporters when we visit USF next season.

Shows to be 6’3”. I like that this isn’t another sub 6’ guy because I think teams neutralized Edwards at times last season when he couldn’t get a shot off.

It’s a no brainer. In the old days I knew Dickey’s Sun Belt champion teams weren’t realistically going to get a shot at a national title, but we were at least playing in the same league…a home run recruiting class and a friendly schedule and we had a chance to have a Boise State type string of seasons. With this new system, there is ZERO chance of building a competitive squad…the second we show potential with all-conference type players, they’re gone. A Brandon Kennedy would be a one year player in today’s landscape. So, why wouldn’t the G5 schools try to form their own system? And, I would jack the price for a visit to a P4 stadium up to a $3M minimum that ALL G5 schools hold firm on. If Texas wants to go 12-0 they either have to play the other “big boys” or pay the piper💰

Let's focus on those coming in. Men's Basketball Signs Transfer Center - University of North Texas Athletics (meangreensports.com)

What being a UNT fan is like right now:

If this group stays healthy, I will come out and say it right now, we could be a LOT better. We have more size and more guards that can handle the ball in my estimation. Fantastic job by Hodge. Wish I could say the same for football.

Yeah I'm getting real tired of us just being bitches and giving up. I get it...Bama has a million more resources than we do. But Guayana is a country just as much as the USA is. Why would you quit trying to climb the ladder unless you're just soft and don't care? I'll tell you this, I care. And I'll keep throwing money at this dumpster fire because I'm proud to be an Eagle. Then....there's logic. I understand the reality. But to be public about it just seems so lame.

There is such a thing as being right, and absolutely stupid for expressing that view.

I hate the portal and NIL too. But North Texas didn’t invent those things and the answer isn’t to quit on your alma mater. We just have to ride this out until whatever is next comes along. Looks like we will have an exciting team next season too.

And there's this -- https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/orange-county-news/gofundme-raises-300000-for-unc-students-who-protected-american-flag-during-protests/

Back-to back National Polo Champs! Beat Smut in Virginia 17-8. The Phonies didn't have the horses to keep up with us...

If you read that second story....it seems there would be 8 team divisions. And I love this: The new divisions would be realigned geographically, in part to benefit Olympic sports. These spread out leagues....benefit nobody. We could be here 100 years from now....and no one is gonna care about a game against Charlotte.

I think you are vastly underappreciating what A-Scott brought to the table

“Rubin has always been apart of winning programs so this was a no brainer for us!” 8-24 is a winning program?

There are approximately zero reasons to recruit high school players. Let's use China Spring QB for example. He will come in and probably not play year 1. But all year he will eat our food, lift our weights, live in our dorm, attend our school. Then year 2 he might be the starter. Throw for perhaps 3k yards, 25ish TD 10ish INT. And those numbers might not even get us into a bowl game or conference contention. So, we basically just did everything for him with absolutely no ROI, ZERO. Nevertheless, that's enough for him to be relegated to the pros at Utah, or AZ, or Arkansas as a surefire backup making 150-200k a year over the next 3 years. What would keep him here? Do we have 150-200K to keep a P5 backup as our starter? Every year. Year after year after year? Do we even WANT to do that?

At Longwood last season... 34 games played......16 starts 25 minutes per game 11.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 62 assists.......56 turnovers .374 FG%.......346 from three point land

https://twitter.com/tobias_bass/status/1787155842111766962/photo/1

Did someone say Cornell?

I think the “school” part of this isn’t terribly important to him and he will regret it in the long run. Edit: Here's the other issue with Buggs. He's a one trick pony. He doesn't have the handle to bring he ball up, he doesn't have the quickness to drive by someone or the ups to attack the rim. He's a three point shooter, period. Don't get me wrong, I liked Buggs, but he was feast or famine on offense, and although he hustled, he was a liability on defense.

Yes. But not that that means anything any more.

Looks good on video and paper. Just can't get excited these day when guys are here today and gone tomorrow.

This is great news. I wanted us to get this kid last year. He originally signed with St. Louis....when Phil Forte was on their staff. But, like Layne Taylor with us, Brock got out of his letter of intent (with SLU)....and was back out being recruited. I hoped with the connection with Forte....that we'd get him last year.....but he went to Creighton.

This sounds like a marriage counseling session that went off the rails. Nobody needs to be reminded when the season starts that they declared their intention to quit supporting the school during the offseason. Everybody knows supporting UNT is like herpes. You think it's finally gone and it flares up again.

If it wasn't out of the bag before, it is now since you decided to post it on a public forum.

1st scenario is more probable than not. 2nd scenario is not likely.