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That's not creepy at all.

Also, as to uninvolved student athletes - why should OU have been given television and bowl probation back then? After all, only one players shot another. Three were involved in rape. One was selling cocaine. So, for the sins of five, the whole squad was punished. Fair? Fair isn't the point. The point is punishing wrong doing and sending a message to the other instiutions. And, again, Penn State covered up this abuse for years - willingly covered it up. Four of the five OU players committed impulsive crimes - shooting and rape. Not much the school could do to prevent that. And, unless they were buying cocaine for the fifth, they really had no reason to know that was happening. Penn State is different and worse. Penn State forced the guy to retire after catching wind of his molestation in the late 1990s. But, then, they still allowed him space on campus and access to the program and all its goodies. And, he used these thing to lure more boys into abuse - WITH PENN STATE'S FULL KNOWLEDGE. Then, he's caught in the act of raping a boy and at least five adults - an assistant coach, the head coach, the athletic director, a school vice-president, and the president himself - cannot bring themselves to either stop him or kick him off campus. They bury the story. It's horrible. There is no excuse for what happened at Penn State. They covered up a serial child abuser, and did so because of what might happen to the reputation of their university. It's wholly shameful. Like OU in 1989, the NCAA should bring the hammer down of Penn State for Lack of Institutional Control. In fact, that's not even accurate enough. They should create a whole new set of penalties for Refusal to Acknowledge Institutional Control.

But the thing I want to point out is that none of the abuses involved a student athlete of the Penn State Athletics program. Yes, school athletic facilities were at Sandusky's disposal and administrators at various levels turned a blind eye including Athletic administrators, but still no student athletes were involved. In the case dealing with the Baylor basketball murder it involved a student athlete, so I feel the NCAA was right to step in and levy penalties. Since some of you are out for blood, what kind of penalty should be levied against Penn State? Should it be just the football program or should the women's volleyball team also be punished?

Yes, Arkansas is well known for being where all folks are just folks...

Woo hoo for unbridled Capitalism!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/ncaafootball/index.html As this page shows, the NCAA has far more important issues, like sanctions against Boise St., to consider. I can't find the link, but I beliieve the NCAA has already made it clear that they will not get involved in the Penn St. "situation." We all know it, but the NCAA enforcement wing is an absolute joke.

Penn State needs to be punished severely. SMU was punished when it knew of player payments and tried to hide them inthe 80s. Oklahoma was punished when one of Switzer's players and a coach were dealing cocaine in the 80s. Penn State officials knew Sandusky was abusing young men, and they allowed him to continue to do so on their campus, using their office space and the lure of tickets and things from their athletic departments. Penn State should absolutely be on the hook for what occurred under their watch. You talk about SMU and OU being hit with "Lack of Institutional Control" penalties. How much more Lack of Institutional Control can you have than the president, athletic director, head coach, and assistant coaches allowed a former assistance to abuse boys on their campus for decades?

Texas A&M and Missouri will never be heard from again. They lose.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/penn-state-emails/index.html?iref=allsearch Yep, And Joe pa is proving to be right in the middle of the cover up. The email from Spanier is particularly disgusting, worrying only about Penn St.'s legal liability if Sandusky doesn't change his behavior (because pedophiles are capable of that, right?) and it comes out later. Absolutely disgusting. I really hope that university loses ALL of it's endowment.

Mac ran some boys off too. I don't think they deserved to be playing, but they would be 4th & 5th year seniors now.

At that time was alumni advisor for the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity. As a spirit project the fraternity had volunteered to paint Fouts Field...they painted the walls on the inside plus the steps and the railing.It was the first time it had ever been painted. Anyway, we had the radio on through the stadium speaker system as we painted the stadium (it was the same afternoon as the Tennessee game). We thought Mercer was going to have a heart attack on the radio at the end of the game. When the team got home they thought we had painted the stadium to commemorate the victory vs. the Vols.

I was a junior at "Nit-Su" in 1975. We played Cal Poly Pomona 2 weeks after we beat the Tennessee Volunteers in Knoxville. Can you believe we had a freakin' Open Date the week after we beat the Vols? Excitement on campus after the Tennessee win was at a fever pitch. Many saw our game results on ABC TV that Game Day Saturday when Keith Jackson made a comment about "that Hayden Fry bunch from North Texas was playing Tennessee close" I had been at the Willis Library that afternoon and then went over to a dorm living area when a fellow student told me we were playing the Vols a close game in the 4'th quarter. The dorm living room area with the TV was filled to the brim with students so I knew something pretty special was going on with our game. Radios were turned on very loud in that dorm's living room area as we were all listening to a most excited Bill Mercer calling our game and our fans listening with amazement that Keith Jackson on a nationally televised game mentioned North Texas and Hayden Fry. Then the Mean Green's diminutive RB Sears Wood ran a kick-off return for a North Texas touchdown--bedlam and high fives took over in Kendall Hall. North Texas would win the game before a shocked Volunteer's home crowd of about 75,000 that day in Neyland Stadium. If this was how Big Time college foodtball felt, man o' man, we had to have some more of this at North Texas! (The Dallas Times Herald next morning in its Sunday edition had a front page photo of our team being met at Love Field before a huge crowd of North Texas fans). North Texas versus Cal Poly-Pomona: We had right at 20,000 at Fouts Field (its capacity) for the Cal Poly-Pomona game and that was the most we'd had at Fouts I believe since it had opened. Wayne Ray in the NT Ticket Office said had that game been played the week "after" our Tennessee win that they would have had to park in Lewisville and Gainsville to get a spot for their cars. Amazingly and as I recall, we had a hard time getting our mind on Cal Poly but finally put them away. Everyone was still buzzing about the Vols win by the Mean Green. (The Vols would win 6 games that Fall and would have been a bowl team had the game took place in this era). Yet beating one of the Big Boys was a feeling that most of us who were around during that era wanted to see keep happening. There was just something about it that felt real damn good. GMG!

He'll be on the Hardline at 5:10 today if you wanna hear about his condition from the horse's mouth.

So you girls like to party!?

Aggie fans may not be thrilled now about not playing the Longhorns every year but I can tell you that they will get over it but it will take time. I grew up and Auburn fan and I know it was hard when Auburn first stopped playing GaTech each year when the SEC expanded there conference scheadule and GaTech joined the ACC. Then when the SEC went to two divisions to not play Tennessee every year. And on top of that to stop playing Florida .every year. But new traditions have been started with LSU and Ole Miss who Auburn very seldom played in the past, and with Arkansas when they joined the SEC. Aggie Fans will get over Texas very quickly when right at 11,000 Bama, Auburn, LSU & Arkansas fans visit College Station when they play the Aggies. Each SEC school has to provide the visiting SEC school at least 10,800 seats for all conference games and each of the above schools from the SEC West will sell and bring there full allotment.

A&M does not need Texas now that they are a member of the SEC. Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and Arkansas every year plus who ever they have to play from the SEC east. Yes I know Texas-Texas A&M is a tradition but who needs this game more now A&M or Texas. i say Texas is the one who needs this game more now not A&M.

And look at the two "real" home games at fouts; Cal Poly Pomona and West Texas State. Now those are two games that must have gotten the students and locals excited.

OU's 1988/1989 Winter of players shooting each other, raping coeds, and dealing cocaine come to anyone else's mind? None of that happened on the field. So, why was OU responsible? Let's be realistic folks. Penn State is responsible for what happened. At OU back then, at least you could say the president and administration had no knowledge of the goings on. At Penn State, the adminstration was deep in the child molesting problem, covering it up. If OU could be sanctioned for the criminal offense that occured in the winter of 1988/89, Penn State can surely be sanctioned for harboring - and,I'd say, aiding and abetting - a child moelster for year, possibly a couple of decades or more. Yes. NCAA, act.

Nice touch.

Will former Mean Green Great Cynthia Izaguiiiiiiiidldldldlldldlldlldlldldlldllde be presenting him with the award?

It's baloney. A few guys brought OU down in the late 80s, SMU in the mid-80s. There have been others. Those are just the most porminent ones I remember. I guess recently, USC got probation for just a few guys getting perks in the mid-00s. This is far worse. Cover up of child abuse is worse. If the NCAA can't see this, with all of their legal teams, I don't really know how they can be taken seriously as an organization.

I agree. Has the NCAA ever publicly addressed the situation?

Mizzou is the biggest winner because they were marginalized in the Big 12. SEC gives them equal fuding and many great television opportunities that were not available in the Big 12. TCU also get very lucky. They won't mind playing second fiddle to Texas and OU, and being pounded by them annually. They're the kid that is just happy to be allowed in the crowd.

As much as we love to talk about QB recruits and obsess about skill positions, the quickest path to improvement for this team will be in the upgrading of the OL and DL...when those guys are doing their jobs, everyone else's job is easier and they look better. Great to see some excellent line prospects showing interest in the Mean Green.

I guess because his last name is Green? Question, no info.

"SMU and Houston get out of CUSA and get to rebuild sink with the BE. They join forces with get a yearly beat down from a power called Boise State and they will actually breathe some new life into tread water in that much weakened league. They get out lose the interest of Texas and get to expose their program to the will be largely ignored by the populated part of the nation." Fixed

I read that story thinking we were signing some great running back. That thread needs a disclaimer.

How can they know that Tony will still be undrafted at #18?

And this is posted on here because..?

question, no info

Dave Campbell Texas football has us finishing 6 - 6 and third place in SBC...then going to Beef O Brady bowl agains S. Miss.

Very jealous of their OOC schedule.

It seems like there were a lot of winners in this round, for a change. Take the Aggies. I get the Aggies email blast and they are settling into their new home getting ready for the unexpected. They will forge new rivalries, play in the best league in the land and finally get some Texas type exposure based on their BCS type matchup every single week. TCU has come home to roost. I think roast but roost is the positive spin on it. I think TCU will be thrilled to be home after a great journey. I think they will middle of the pack it for a long time but they will be home and that is a great thing for their fans. SMU and Houston get out of CUSA and get to rebuild the BE. They join forces with a power called Boise State and they will actually breathe some new life into that weak league. They get out of Texas and get to expose their program to the populated part of the nation. The ugly bird on the riverwalk didn't even have to wait or go through the perils all programs do. Well they will when they get beat down early and often in the dome and on the road. But they win by bringing major college football to SAT. We win after staying with our patient model of Southland - Big West - Sun Belt - CUSA. We have had ups and downs but invested and experienced success at a good time. We will now get those named programs into Denton and the local media. It will be a fun ride to go regional after being flung all over the place for the past 20 years. La Tech also demonstrated great patience and will finally reap some local regional rivalry benefits. Texas has their network. Enough said. They have been surprisingly quiet to the national folks but they are Texas and they will still get the majority of coverage in the Lone Star State. It will be interesting to see how long they stay excited to play Baylor, Texas Tech, West Virginia and TCU. I still think the Pac whatever opportunity may be too good to resist in due time. Having Texas Oregon, Texas USC and Texas OU matchups every year might be too juicy to not do down the road. Throw in the renewed rivalry with Texas Texas A&M and now you have a real schedule that rivals what the Aggies have now in Texas A&M Bama Texas A&M Auburn Texas A&M LSU Texas A&M Arkansas Texas A&M Florida Texas A&M South Carolina... I just see a lot of winners with what has unfolded and now it will be interesting to see who executes. GMG

The conference had us traveling to Murfreesboro towards the end of December. I hope this means we were able to score a marquee home game around that time & had to move things around

IF this team lives up to billing, and IF our fanbase (especially the "football only" crowd) shows up, you may see a lot of things change and/or improve. Hard to justify upgrades for the paltry number that bother to show up.

Given. I'm shocked he finally moved on from calling us North Texas State. He needs some poon.

Zac played his freshman thru junior seasons primarily on defense at Sherman as Wayman James (now at TCU) was the feature RB for the Bearcats. Zac took over at RB when James graduated.

And your explanation for Konockus Sashington being moved from DB to RB is?

He was off at one point and put back on recently.

I think they're wrong.

That explains the lack of recruiting presence in Farmer's Branch...

Love to see us land the big guys in the trenches. Now, if we could just land 3 big guys in the other trench, I'd be estatic.

Another 6'5" OL commit. Have to love it!

Intellectual dishonesty? Is that a roundabout way of calling me a liar? Are you on the jury of EITHER one of these cases? No. Then you are getting your information regarding both of the cases via the same means as EVERYONE ELSE. The Media. Your views in the Sandusky case have been iron-clad since the very beginning. You were presented the case by the media because you're not on the jury. You've never called out the media for enciting a lynch mob in this case, which they have. The evidence presented by the media is certainly there to convict this dude. However, a judge just threw out 3 of the counts due to a key witness' testimony being faulty. Maybe we should wait to see all the facts? OPPOSITELY, Your views in the Zimmerman case have been open (let's wait and see the facts come out... blah, blah) since the very beginning. This is probably the best road to take. You were presented the case by the media because you're not on the jury. You constantly barrage the media for creating this firestorm for ratings sake. The evidence is certainly there to convict this man of murder. However, key witness' testimonies appear muddled. I wouldn't expect you to say Zimmerman murdered this kid, or Zimmerman was acting in self defense, rather, I would expect you to say: "Let's wait and see what the facts spell out in the Sandusky trial". But you're not doing that.

I haven't found an Aggie yet who is thrilled about not playing Texas each year and 100+ year old tradition going away.

Biggest winner is TCU. Say no more. 2nd biggest winner is UNT. We are finally in a good confence with local rivals that will lead to better sports coverage, attendance, and recruiting. Recruiting Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma just became much easier. Biggest flop is smu. Will the move help their attendance? Are they going to recruit in the eastern US? How well can they recruit against Big East teams for DFW players. Their only local conference rival is now Houston.

Yes, another epistle: I believe most of us would admit an admiration for TCU with their own multi-conference journey to the Big 12, but I believe their long journey to the Big 12 actually began during the Jim Wacker Era at TCU. Also sometimes attrition can help in such a journey and I think that part came about when their very well respected TCU President/Chancellor Tucker and AD (former TCU baseball coach) Frank Windegger (for lack of better words) simply got out of the way of progress and (in deed) both retired. IMO......after the aforementioned 2 retired TCU started spending some serious money to promote their athletic product with new and expanded facilties becoming a huge part of that spending. Sometimes it just takes a few high level staff types getting out of the way of progress (retiring or just moving on) for a stagnant athletic pogram to be able to get from Point A to Point B. Some of you have mentioned a concern and question of do we have all the hosses in place to take North Texas to the next level; that is, to get us to a true level of CUSA competitiveness after so many recent years of non-success in SBC football, specificially. Well, our old friend Father Time will once again tell the tale on that and God only knows we've wasted much precious time in past decades on some whose presence on our payrolls would merely keep things from advancing. What is the saying about "doing the same old failed things over and over again and expecting different results?" Back To TCU: There was really a time when Fort Worth could have cared less for TCU Horned Frog football, basketball, etc, etc, etc. Most of their best crowds from the 1960's on up were when the SWC Big Boys and all their traveling fans came to Fort Worth and without them TCU would have had some very embarrassing turnstile numbers, a la SMU. Fort Worth showed it would support a winner, but during our Mean Joe Greene and Fry Era's TCU (and many others) would never be found on our football schedules because during much of that era the Horned Frogs were sucking hind teat as far as a college football program was concerned. Enter Jim Wacker: It was an exciting time for TCU until the late, great Jim Wacker got wind of some very powerful and influential TCU alums who were paying off TCU football players. Didn't most all of us still admire the late TCU coach for turning his own program in when you know good and well that he knew every other SWC school was doing the same darn thing? Yet during the Kenneth Davis era TCU Horned Frog football experienced a true revival with the "unbelieeeeeeeeeevalbe" Jim Wacker in charge. Their "Your Home Team" multi-year promotion began to also make headway as they hammered that theme to the locals not for just one year but on an annual basis. Sometimes sticking with what works really is a good idea, but sticking with things and personnel that don't work is probably not so wise but quite expensive. Enough about TCU already but.................it is very easy for us to get all wrapped up in all re-alignment talk and maybe even have a few anxiety attacks as to how some of it would eventually affect our own school. Most would admit that North Texas caught an unexpected break when SMU left for the Big East because had they not we would be in the Sun Belt Conference for a very long time (which would not have been the end of the world), With UNT's CUSA membership (and Apogee Stadium) we have really advanced ourselves across the board at every level. Still........our leaders need to keep in mind (as Silver Eagle would say it) our "culture" to realize that not all in Denton, Denton County and Beyond share the same excitement that most all of us on GMG.com do and IMO a reason our UNT athletic leaders and ancillary staffs must almost immediately step it up triple time with all that they'be been doing at a much, much slower Sun Belt Conference pace. Like they say .................. "it's a whole new ball game." The City of Denton and its citizens will not be shamed into coming to our football games so we can float the "look what San Antone' did for UTSA in one year" theme till the cows come home and the Denton most of us know and understand so well because many of us at one time lived there will not flinch and thus..........the reason North Texas athletics must promote Mean Green football (and basketball) as if there were a 1,000 other things our area alums could do on Game Day. Honestly, does UNT have any other choice but to change its entire recent philosophy on Game Week promotions but maybe should look seriously at adding other "get them out to Apogee" promos alongside all the other annual Game Week promotions already set in place? Many of you have said it and I will repeat it but it's still a matter of..............North Texas just needs to take care of North Texas, but now the stakes of our doing that on the eve of our CUSA membership has a dramatic new meaning; that is, UNT taking care of UNT is now a neccessity rather than some pie in the sky by and by thing that we do way out there in the future. GMG!

Maybe the law can be re-worded so that anyone who lies about military service for the purpose of financial gain, can be charged with fraud. I can't think of anything much more despicable than lying about military service and claiming that you earned medals in the process. But then, I don't know what is worse. Lying about being in the military, or being a chicken hawk politician(s) who thinks that unnecessarily sending volunteer servicemen/women into harms way to suit their own political gains/needs is a good idea.

ObamaMath?

This post is so funny yet so sad. 2 years later and experts still can't interpret this monstrosity