What Is......21?

[FirefightnRick]

......The total yards from scrimmage TCU held Kansas to last Saturday night, mainly due to holding them to minus 32 yards rushing.

That's what a top 3 run defense will do for ya and why the Frogs are ranked 4th overall.  There was a time (early 2000's) when the Mean Green were right there with em in run defense.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article180261601.html

 

Rick

Edited October 24, 2017 by FirefightnRick

[MGNation92]

And who is the OC for Kansas?

Once rumored HC candidate for the University of North Texas, Doug Meacham.

[MeanGreenTexan]

If you thought the effort by the Mean Green was atrocious on 10/21, you would hate rooting for Kansas football, who are perpetually stuck in that kind of mindset.    Awful place to go... hence Nathan Tune's little brother decommitting over the weekend.

[untjim1995]

10 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

......The total yards from scrimmage TCU held Kansas last Saturday night, mainly due to holding them to minus 32 yards rushing.

That's what a top 3 run defense will do for ya and why the Frogs are ranked 4th overall.  There was a time (early 2000's) when the Mean Green were right there with em in run defense.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article180261601.html

 

Rick

Its really been an interesting dichotomy here. Under Dickey and McCarney, our best teams we've had as a FBS program again (since 1995) had hard-hitting defenses and solid special teams, but our offenses were as vanilla as it gets, to the point that if you didn't have an awesome defense, we would win between 1 and 3 games a year. Then, under Dodge and Littrell, our offenses can put up some serious numbers but the defense cannot stop anyone with a pulse at QB.

Patterson's teams can do both. But nobody else in this state has shown they can do both, year in and year out. Everyone talks about Saban, Dabo, and Urban Meyer as the best coaches in the country, but Gary Patterson is right there with them, in my mind, along with Chris Petersen. 

[Matt from A700]

I wish our defense was MEAN again.

[greeneagle1]

3 hours ago, MGNation92 said:

And who is the OC for Kansas?

Once rumored HC candidate for the University of North Texas, Doug Meacham.

He had it made at TCU. Probably left for more money, but he could have rode out that Co-OC job until a big school HC job opened or even just built his legacy there. 

[BTG_Fan1]

3 hours ago, MGNation92 said:

And who is the OC for Kansas?

Once rumored HC candidate for the University of North Texas, Doug Meacham.

You mean the Doug Meacham who is trying to hide out sitting on the stairs? 

 

Edited October 24, 2017 by BTG_Fan1

[untjim1995]

24 minutes ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

You mean the Doug Meacham who is trying to hide out sitting on the stairs? 

 

I'm sure coming back to FW and seeing them ranked in the top 4, while his offense set a record for worst offensive performance ever by a FBS team, probably made him question his life choices pretty good in that stairwell.

[ipd054]

Lucky Lou's is 21...  opened in 1996.

[Boca_Nasty_96]

8 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

I'm sure coming back to FW and seeing them ranked in the top 4, while his offense set a record for worst offensive performance ever by a FBS team, probably made him question his life choices pretty good in that stairwell.

My brother works for TCU he said he saw Meacham crying 

[MeanGreenTexan]

7 hours ago, Boca_Nasty_96 said:

My brother works for TCU he said he saw Meacham crying 

I just hope that guy's career isn't dead after his KU stint, because I think he's a good coach.

[BTG_Fan1]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I just hope that guy's career isn't dead after his KU stint, because I think he's a good coach.

If GH leaves and Meacham is canned... Would be a nice bounce back in Denton potentially... 

[MeanGreenTexan]

13 minutes ago, BTG_Fan1 said:

If GH leaves and Meacham is canned... Would be a nice bounce back in Denton potentially... 

Lol.   To go from a finalist for the HC job, to replacing the OC...  That would be a rough tumble for him over 2 years.

[untjim1995]

2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I just hope that guy's career isn't dead after his KU stint, because I think he's a good coach.

This sounds crazy, but I really bet Meacham thought KU was going to be on the rise with David Beaty and Clint Bowen and their Texas HS ties. I read that when Beaty coached his first game at KU, he had less than 50 scholarship players on the roster. I think what people are seeing now is that Beaty just isn't made to be a head coach, since this is his 4th year there. Unfortunately for KU, they just extended him for like 5 more years, hoping he was going to be the guy to turn it around. That is looking like a RV-esque error in judgment.

But basketball season is right around the corner, so all will be well in Lawrence in a few weeks...

[FirefightnRick]

19 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

I'm sure coming back to FW and seeing them ranked in the top 4, while his offense set a record for worst offensive performance ever by a FBS team, probably made him question his life choices pretty good in that stairwell.

I respect him for not choosing the easy road and hanging around, and instead setting out to establish himself on his own merit.

 

Rick

[untjim1995]

17 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

I respect him for not choosing the easy road and hanging around, and instead setting out to establish himself on his own merit.

 

Rick

I can't imagine being a co-coordinator is easy no matter where you coach, so it probably made sense for him to go out on his own. IN his defense, even if things fall apart at KU, it probably isn't hurting his reputation too much just because its Kansas. Similar to what I feel Littrell and Harrell get here, if they do anything positive, people in the CFB media and circles all think they must be great coaches because its North Texas, I believe Meacham probably knew that ANY improvement would land him a head coaching job or high profile OC job because of any success at KU.

[BTG_Fan1]

3 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Lol.   To go from a finalist for the HC job, to replacing the OC...  That would be a rough tumble for him over 2 years.

I would agree, but I think most people are beyond that now... If GH did leave, Meacham has experience with this offense,  has recruited here (and likely helped recruit Tune to KU, before he decommited), and has some likely track-records that would be appealing to recruits as well...