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The Hospitality deck at old Fouts Field is no longer around. The club level seats took it's place in the new stadium, at least for this year. Once all the club level seats sell out, you may see some version of the hospitality deck return, you may not. While many have complained about this, it is simply the price of trying to raise the stadium experience to a college level experience. Fouts was a great value, but that's because it was a dilapidated, middle school stadium. You still have the new Alumni Pavillion just outside the gates of Fouts if you want to purchase a beer. We all should remember, while the benefits you receive from the MGC are great, the main reason for giving is to help the school pay for the scholarships of the athletes that we enjoy watching play the game.

Math is a left-wing, socialist conspiracy.

I'm shocked that UTSA isn't ranked.

I love sports as much as anybody, but it's better for the money to go to academics anyway.

I guess I'm not against the idea... down the road. I think first we need to gain market share of those who graduated UNT before we worry about marketing to those who have no connection to the university. Success in the former would be a good indicator of success in the latter.

That's what she said.

Speaking of being a cheerleader for the Mean Green, Jah Dunham was wearing a Mean Green shirt when the Musers were on Sports Sunday with Doocy from training camp on Sunday.

When this came out a couple of nights ago, UNT was trending worldwide on Twitter. I was waiting for the day we'd trend worldwide. I know RV wished "North Texas" was trending instead.

I understand where you're coming from. Regionally, we are in conservative waters politically. That much I understand. But, I also understand - which is why I couched this thing in future terms - that we Gringos are not repopulating Texas or anywhere else as quickly as our Hispanic friends. Because of my marital situation, I've been exposed to the immigrant culture here. And, let me tell you, for every immigrant here illegally committing crimes and whatnot, there are 100 more who are dedicated family people, just working, and who have disposable income readily available to spend - i.e., not tied up in accounts. They've got cold, hard cash on hand to spend. My view is this - cut out nobody you can legitimately market to. Budweiser markets to people of all stripe. Turn on the television on Saturday morning - every damn car dealer in the Metroplex is hawking their wares with one male Mexican and one leggy, female Mexican talking at the Mexicans. Grocery stores have ads all over those Spanish stations. Western Union is neck deep in marketing to them for wiring the money back home and making millions, if not billions, as a result. I understand you're going to have some serious rednecks who might see "VERDE MALO" one time and go apesh*t. But, I think those people are less a part of the population than we're commonly led to believe. And, the upside is worth the risk. I know there's a risk. But, in the end, that's business. Rick Villareal has taken some calculated risks. He's making this a business - the way other schools started doing 25 years ago. We love UNT because we are graduates. But, in the end, in the 21st Century, it's a business. The academics are marketed. The athletics are marketed. Not all things in business are guarantees. You roll the dice sometimes. This may look like a dice roll in the context of 24/7 overblown FOXNEWS versus MSNBC/CBS politics. But, I just don't think, football-wise, people really give it a second thought. If we're winning, and the stadium is full, I just don't think people will care whether the people cheering on UNT alongside them are Mexican, Korean, Vietnamese, Yankee, Canadian, or otherwise. Hell, Mr. Bean fell from the sky, and I'd love to have him as a UNT fan. This isn't 1970s Darrell Royal finally recruiting blacks because he's tired of being run out of the Cotton Bowl by Switzer's Sooners full of guys Houston area guys and Texas like Joe Washington, Greg Pruitt, and Thomas Lott and strapping country boys like Kenny King, David Overstreet, and Billy Sims. We live in an area of the country increasing hispanic. They have dollars to spend. They have families they take out to events as a family. We have events, and need of money. If it weren't profitable to market to these folks, businesses all over the United States would be doing it. We happen to be sitting closest to the fire of it, so we need stick our iron in there.

How bout trying to get more games on english tv first. And I mean txa21, not nttv or whatever in Denton. Most sports fans have directv.

I'm interested to how Mac feels the weight issue (undersized players) is progressing. Also, how he feels the secondary is progressing; in particular, the corner backs. Seemed our cornerbacks needed help last year. Finally, does he have a ubiquitous plan to be more aggressive in all things football: play calling, mentoring, problem solving, recruiting. Tinfoil Dodge really f'd this program up with his fancy footin' around.

I havent seen this posted anywhere today, so I thought I'd add it. Sorry if this isnt the right forum. Im not sure if this has anything to do with the Aug. 15 donation, but my guess would be "no". It doesnt seem to have anything to do directly with athletics, but who knows if some of the money will trickle that way or not. Hoping to get some more info on the aug 15 donation. Somebody has to know more tha what has been posted on the subject thus far. http://web3.unt.edu/news/story.cfm?story=12273

Should we be expecting a #gmg*******?

You guys are getting slow: it took until the third page of the thread for the anti-Spanish/Mexican posts to arrive. *sigh* It's getting harder and harder to draw people offsides. The crack about BYU's redshirt sophomores drew fire earlier than the Spanish stuff. AND, NO LONGHORN DEFENDERS ANYMORE??? Sad. What has become of the old GMG.com? Are we that corporate now that we have a new stadium? Is the mayhem gone? Is it because Tasty and Quoner post so little these days that senseless mayhem isn't even recognized anymore? Will this forum simply breakdown into discussions of nothing more than dry talk of depth charts, strategy, "practice reports" and 40 times? Who are the administrators - Tom Osborn and Grant Teaff Oh, momma! "...and, see, then in the 90s, for a couple of seasons, I got the NCAA to make it a rule where all a-teams' socks had to be the same color, AND that the socks had to be pulled up or it was a penalty...for the safety of the players, of course. We also made it so that Oklahoma and Miami players had to tuck in their shirts, or it was a penalty. I'd have won more games at Baylor, but was always distracted by the mayhem caused by our opponents' players looking so disheveled on the field of play, you see."

I'm not going to try and dissect the quote but there are approximately 310 million people in the USA. 153.4 million make up the workforce as of July 8, 2011. This leaves roughly over 156 million non workers. Government is the largest employer. If you want an example of what happens with an inflated government workforce check out Greece.

Thank you for the info. The Mean Green Club does a great service for the Athletes of UNT and we'll be proud to be a part of that.

Why not put the defense in Green luchador masks ?

Todd Dodge got effed much worse than this on national television against OU and the university gave him 42 more chances. Shouldn't she get at least one more chance?

Can you say pay check. And Craig is proud of his Mean Green roots, but he's paid to cheer for Tu.

Despite the risk of going against popular opionion I give you this argument: I think the broadcasting of the game in spanish is a good idea. I do think there is a very real risk though of alienating a large part of the fanbase if it goes any farther than that with things like spanish jerseys. I think, at least from a marketing perspective, it is important to realize that something like that could upset people, especially with a sport like American football, and at the college level. As I said, I think I am going against popular opinion here, but it just seems like something to be very careful with...Except for the Spanish language TV, which is a great idea. Most of this debate always seems to go back to a much larger social and political issue, but I'm trying to avoid that and just stick to marketing. By the way, Why the dislike for Chivas??? You must be a Club America fan?....I've been a Tigres UANL fan since I got to meet the team (by chance) at the Boston Airport.

I like it. The only risk I see is alienating current fans in Euless. Still, I think it's worth the risk.

Win games in Denton. Take care of internal business. Win more games in Denton. Stop peering over the fences of other conferences. It's completely inconsequential because if they're not the WAC, they are not peering back until there are more wins in Denton.

Just stating my opinion, fella. I think a 10-15 year moratorium on births and people 70-75 years old and up should have to prove their value to society. By about 2025 we could bring the world's population back down to a manageable 5 or so billion people. No more health care debate...no more significant concerns over non-renewable resources...think of it, man! It'd be great!

Plane ticket and hotel room booked! Will be flying to Miami Thursday morning and staying a couple of days for the weekend. Who else is going?

Thank you for the new stadium and genuine, authentic football staff. But, now let's move on to talk of the future. With Texas and BYU getting their own television stations and conferences, we need to focus on expanding our fan footprint, carbon or otherwise. My wife, as you know, is from Mexico and grew up in Mexico. She migrated legally to the United State, and we often, in moments alone, look at her green card. Like many other Mexicans in America with green cards, she has taken a liking to fútbol americano. North Texas (or, UNT) plays the college version of it. Although she, and many others in her situation, enjoy fútbol americano, they still hew towards the music of their roots and homeland - and other music with roots and homelands further south in the Central and South Americas and the Carribean. We're talking here about Mana, Shakira, Pitbull, Enrique Iglesias, Vicente Fernandez, Thalia, Juanes, Los Claxons, Estopa, Kany García, Camila, Paulina Rubio, Daddy Yankee, Don Omar, Chetes, Andrés Calamaro, Ely Guerra, El Cuarteto de Nos, Diomedes Díaz, Jorge Oñate, Lucrecia, Tito El Bambino, K-Paz de la Sierra, El Chapo de Sinaloa, Los Tigres del Norte, Intocable, Van Halen, Pepe Aguilar, Aida Cuevas, Tomatito, Chucho Valdés, Andrés Cepeda, Calle 13, Natalia Lafourcade, Jaguares, and Hello Seahorse! just to name a few. So, my question is, are there plans yet to have UNT (or, North Texas) football games broadcast in Spanish - or, to televise them on any of the local Spanish stations? I know from going to cook outs with my wife's family and friends that Mexicans are no different than White people. We all like to drink beer, eat grilled flank steak, karaoke, have sex with our wives, brutalize piñatas shaped like Chivas de Guadalajara's mascot, and watch sports. My thinking is that because fútbol americano is a sport, and there are lots of Mexicans like my wife who are watching Spanish TV stations and listening to Spanish radio stations, wouldn't it be smart to look into jumping ahead of everyone else in America and get The University of North Texas football games broadcast in Spanish? Imagine the call: "¡Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool de campo! ¡Zack Olennnnnnnnnnnnnn! de los Aguilas de Norte Tejas! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol! ¡Gol!" What say you? I'd hate to think we were just going to surrender the Hispanic fútbol americano market to UTEP, UTSA, and Rice. If George Washington hadn't boomed the bold battle cry, Remember the Alamo!, we'd have never wrested control of the Solomon Islands from the Japanese. It's only 21st Century American to have our fútbol americano games broadcast on Spanish radio and television stations in the Metroplex and throughout the United States. Let's jump ahead of the curve on this one before UT starts charging us $24.95 a week to watch our games on their station and BYU sends its redshirt sophomores on their bicycles to try to convert us. ¡Viva Los Verde Malo!

So, taking it the next level, this is just one giant argument for death panels? I never expected Kram to post such an outrageous idea.

You said a mouthful.

Wait...I thought unemployment was just over 9%.

She'll be a better wife and mother after this.

Or maybe Adam James' closet?

That certainly looks like the kind of helmet Nike would design. If that turns out to be the new helmet, I like it. If it has the SOW on the sides, I won't ask for anything this Christmas.

I think that would look sharp with some black SOWS on the side.

I thought I'd share my McCarney story. Last weekend I was at Central Market in Plano and ran into an older gentleman decked out in I-State gear. We were both waiting to be served in the meat dept. I turned to him and said we hired your old coach. He went into how great a coach McCarney was and how he turned I-State football around. He also stated he just moved here, with his family, from Iowa and was planning to attend the opening game. It's great to hear how much respect coach gets from ISU fans. It makes me wonder why the hell did they fire him???

Forget helmet colors, facemasks, and whatever. Just win!

As I have stated before coach was a great frend of Hayden Fry. Just remember the days of the flying worm and remember the color. Once again I say Don't be surprised. Only time will tell. Scrappyman 1

I'm sure our uniforms will be Kelly Green, which I really like, but I also like the color he wore. Just thought I would stir the pot since we are two days away from starting fall practice.

I don't think so. That was too close to the apple green of the flying worm days. Could have been a hand-me-down that Hayden gave him.

This inspires me to do more. Another reason I supported Voertman's and still do.

Who is this we you refer to?

Okay, how about we throw in a pre-game Haka for the Euless contingent. Now...what to do for the Korean, Vietnamese, Loatian, and Thai UNT/North Texas fans from Garland and Richardson.... The advantage of living in such a culturally diverse Metroplex is that it gives us a wide array of marketing choices - should we open up our eyes and ears to the equal opportunity they provide. It's like one of my friends was told by his dad years ago when they were about to put in a new tile floor for a gay couple: FRIEND: "But, dad, those guys are gay." FRIEND'S DAD: "Yes, son, but their money's green the same as yours." That's America in the 21st Century. People are going to seek affordable entertained on the weekends. Why surrender them to Don Cheto, Sabado Gigante, and the FMF? Let the Mean Green marketing machine get out and chase down Mean Green that The O'Jays once sang about: Oregon whores itself with Nike. UT and BYU and Notre Dame whore themselves for TV money. Are we to sit here chaste while a high profile, easily targetable, and rapidly expanding group sits in our very city, county, region, and state waiting to be loved and entertained? Think about it - all Oregon, Utah, and Indiana have are mainly White people. UT...still mainly White people...a more uppity version of White people, but White nonetheless. We've got a huge target market here with cash to spend and families to bring along! Huge! ¡Gigante!

I think that's right as well. Although, bands are allowed to play through timeouts and between plays, as is music through PA systems. Perhaps there could be a designated Vuvuzela section in the band or among student groups like Talons.

Not for the tape, but for the damage to university reputation. I mean, hey, you wanna make a tape in your free time, go for it. If you wanna publish it too, then whatever works. Just don't get it associated with the university. Basically, something potentially embarrassing (chuckle) crossing the lines from personal to professional/academic life and affecting it all. Besides, I think that happened in a similar case at Ariz State.

All these clever double entendres' are really making me want a blow job. I'm bad at this...

I'm always late to parties like these. Dammit

I have edited my original post in this thread to be more optimistic, so as not to hijack the original topic. Please see below: ******************************************************************* "I'm good with it. QB is indeed...in good hands... I'll also mention that arguably the team's best receiver is...on the team, the OL...a couple of stout players, and DT does...have Riley's wheels...his knowledge of this offense...the final point... The leading tackler is...on D. Pass rush and run defense...huge...areas...over...3-4 wins per season. I'm...sold on the defensive improvement...I am...optimistic. Special teams should be improved...believe...I see it. At any rate, I'm going out on a limb and saying they'll get...6 this year due to...Dunbar... I see 6-7 wins is if the team can play defense, use their special teams well and play more ball-control. WR's will...step up. It's going to hinge on the QB, WR's, DL and the LB's this year IMO."

I like sex tapes

Excellent. To see and hear the pride of the grads in that video was amazing. For all too long many UNT grads seemed to discount THEIR university as if it were some second class citizen in the realm of universities...both athletically and academically. But, those times are over! The progress that UNT is making in the classroom academically, within the research community, with facilities (have you seen the new business building as well as this new stadium?), and now with some major league sized donations is simply amazing. If any alum, student or any other person believes UNT is not a major player they are simply ignorant of the facts. I hope all members of the Mean green Nation will now wear their green proudly and strongly. No more, no more...the future is NOW! Show your support for the progress UNT is making by joining the Alumni Association, joining the Mean Green Club, buying season tickets, supporting your academic department with scholarship money, etc., etc. Do what you can...only what you can...but, please, do something to help this great university that is UNT! GO MEAN GREEN & WHY NOT NORTH TEXAS INDEED!

Just a positive little side note about people knowing about Coach McCarney and our program... I work in athletics for a high school in East Texas. We were out at practice today and one of our athletes asked me who my college football team is. I told him that I went to North Texas and that I know they haven't won much recently, but that I was still a fan. One of our new coaches heard me say that and quickly turned and said "Yea, but they're about to start winning." He said that he thinks highly of coach McCarney and was very impressed with what he did at Iowa State. Also mentioned how great of a recruiter he is. Not many people out in East Texas know much about the Mean Green, especially in our tiny town. So it was nice to hear someone mention our coach and program, and also believe that we are headed towards success.

What a wonderful turnout it was. The parking was a slight example of game day. Basically, if you are not a suite holder, you are not parking close in. If you have club level, you are nearby over at Victory Hall parking lot and the adjacent one that was built I was told. As for tailgating, it will be all over the place. The rest of us can park at Fouts and get a little exercise, not to mention a bit extra this first season as the foot bridge will not be completed until next season. No shuttles as of yet, or atleast that they will admit to. The traffic will be nuts so plan to arrive way early or you will be more than irate by the time you park! The roads just simply are not big enough to handle the flow in their current state. I heard a few folks grumble about the suites being closed for the event. An inspection taking place on Monday prevented it as they wanted to keep it in shape without all the extra fingerprints, etc. we were told. Makes total sense as the facility is not 100% complete as most think. Loved the amount of restrooms and concession stands. What will be the nice touch of class is the fact that all of the outside vendors will be in a permanent stand and not look like the fairgrounds! As for the beloved funnel cake guy, sorry but he's out. Someone will be selling them though, in a stand so we were told. As for tailgaters and those who are in need of a drink or dog, there will be the stands on the East side that will be open before the stadium so that you don't starve. I heard someone mention that the black rubber pellets had not "settled" yet. Funny in a sort of way as the turf has to be machine swept every 30-40 some odd hours. They won't settle much as they are "broomed" to keep the turf in shape. Seems like I heard somewhere around 40 tons of that stuff was put on the field. It was over 200 of those large bag/bundles that are on the back side of Fouts. The turf alone was in excess of $400k and is the same as in quite a few NFL stadiums. The foreman that oversaw our install for the turf company is the one who only does the NFL teams for that company. I really wish they had some more stuff rotating on the video board as it is a really nice screen, but they do have to keep some suspense to the place. Heck the smaller board of the two is almost as large as the one in Fouts if I am not mistaken. The speakers are going to be loud as ever. Way more speakers and amplifiers driving this system than what we are used to. If anyone has noticed, there is twice as many lights in the new stadium that will illuminate the field/seats. There will be no comparison in the daylight effect when compared to Fouts. As far as the gift shop goes, there will be mannequins in each window with attire that is for sale. Due to the contract relationship with the bookstore and the company that runs/owns it, they are the one's selling the stuff. All of the Nike gear ships today, so expect it in the store in 5-7 days. Expect to see quite a bit more attire in the shop soon along with jerseys I was told. This was just a teaser! If you don't see what you want, go talk to Rodney the bookstore manager. Maybe he can bring it in. The stadium has obviously been constructed with alot of aforethought. I believe it shows and everyone I came across appeared in awe of the facility that they have longed for. For those of us that know Brian Bethea, we owe him a big thanks as the man has spent countless hours on this project. RV gave him a quick atta boy, but I got to tell you, he is owed alot more than that. If it were not for Brian, RV would not be looking so well on this project. For those not aware, the facility is way more accommodating to the TV crews for games. On the South end of the stadium, they have it set up so the satellite trucks can set up there, plug in their wires to the boxes, go set up their cameras in place, and run very little wiring. Cameras on the field have wiring access points at field level. What does that mean to us you might ask. More televised games as the overhead costs of setting up has been reduced by 75% for those folks. You throw in some wins and we will reach more fans across the nation alot faster. Some may not like to hear this, but I saw it the other night and I have to admit, it bothered me. A brand new stadium with top notch everything and people are too damn lazy to throw their trash away! Really? For crying out loud, don't literally trash the palace. Be a good steward, have more pride and show your love through a simple act of cleaning up after yourself. Yes I know they have clean up crews but would it hurt if we all picked up after ourselves? The less crews it takes, the less money is expended on that and it can be better spent elsewhere. Just a thought for those who care about our "new home". All in all, what a wonderful new stadium. Lot's of smiles I saw as people seemed genuinely pleased with what they saw. We have taken a giant step and I am proud of it. You should be to!

Good...too many people in this world anyway. Now that we've got the back end covered, if we can get ahead of all these pregnancies and new-borns the world will be a much better place.