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In Congress, July 4, 1776 The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands. He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers. He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature. He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states: For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world: For imposing taxes on us without our consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury: For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses: For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies: For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments: For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends. We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor. New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton Massachusetts: John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

Let me make a couple of suggestions: NTXCoog, click here. jml2010, click here. Now have at it.

Hard to field a college football team without High School players! (In Texas) Some people like to read up on their commitments/prospects. Some like to see where they may rank vs. others. Sorry to have offended you this Sunday morning!

The guys relish the opportunity to beat Texas. Don't think for a moment they wouldn't like to win one in Austin. Keep doing what we've been doing. Keep giving them the opportunity to raise the bar. We've earned respect, for sure, but if this means JJ is gonna keep trying to shoot higher, then I'm all for it.

And, anyone who believes your post wasn't a shot and negative, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to talk to them about buying. It is what it is, and it takes no intelligence at all to figure out your motives....usually critical and/or negative...but carry on. Look at the bright side, Silver, your negativeness is nothing unusual...see I said, bright side too. Funny, isn't it? "Funny", now how could that be negative, right?

It was a shot at a bit of humor. Leave it to you to find something to be critical about. It must take a lot of energy.

I think this is a very polite and rationed statement. For a high school student.

instead of making personal attacks on myself and my family you should be looking up this "basic information".....in your area of study.....

It was pointed out to me by the great SUMG that the recent edition of The North Texan lists under upcoming events a watch party for UNT at FIU game on Thursday Sept. 1.... Mean Green vs. Florida International Watch Party: Come to UNT's new Mean Green Stadium Sept. 1 to watch the first football game of the season as the Mean Green plays FIU in Miami. I believe this game will be broadcast on ESPN3 (webcast). Will there be local TV too, anyone know?

Those holidays are for those who served and/ or died.

Evan and I are taking our talents to South Beach for this game. But a watching party at the stadium sounds fun. Can't go wrong either way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ePaETGQZ0

Disappointing? It was horrible. You're right they didn't even show the home side and a couple of the pictures were close ups of workers working on the stadium. Who wants to see that? They were awful.

Fair enough. I'll ignore the troll and I hope you guys do too because as the game gets closer and more UH fans show up here to talk about the game, I guarantee he will post more and more negative UH posts as he does on every board he's ever posted on. I've been on this board for a while now and you guys have seen that I support UH, but that I'm starting to follow UNT more as a second school to enjoy since I lived in Denton for 3 years and have lived in Providence Village for 8. I love college football and it's great to have a team so close to enjoy. This guy riles me like few others. That's what trolls do and obviously I'm falling for his bait. It's just hard when you see someone with no stake in the game to bash your school over and over. I hope I continue to have great football chats with all of you real UNT fans.

Boxscore Tony Mitchell had 5 points , 9 boards & 3 steals in today's 83 - 54 win over Canada

Per the athletic development staff weekday games that are on ESPN3 are only shown on streaming video. SBC network games not announced till mid July but that is the only shot for cable. Why wouldn't you want to see it on the big screen in the new stadium??? Much better venue IMHO. Ditch work by 3 to avoid traffic or take the A Train and bum a ride with someone back to metroplex. Be There!!!!

Channel 8's George Riba was on campus today doing a story on Kenny Lyons. It will air this Sunday night (July 3rd) on The Dale Hansen Sports Special. That show starts at 10:35. This post has been promoted to an article

Great report on Kenny. Man from the look of the replays they showed Kenny looked like a beast out there. I'd love to see a full highlight reel of his best plays. And those apple green uni's looked great too. George Riba has always done a first rate job for us over the years. And congrats to Kenny. We are proud of you. Rick

No Shi+. Weirdest thread ever. Take your argument back to whatever other non-UNT board y'all came from. NTCoog, happy to have you, but this argument isn't meant for this board.

I love that so many fans can claim a part of our history. I just wish they would keep these efforts internal.

Interesting. A far cry from the days when North Texas graduates could come up with a great nickname like Mean Green, (by Sydney Graham), one of it's most recognizable logos (the stylized Eagle by Rick Spears) and it's great battle flag ( by Jim Hobdy). Is our school of art, journalism, and marketing not what they used to be?

I understand the need for money, but if we played teams like Tech at home more often, instead of teams from the SWAC and Southland, we'd have better attendance, and might not need to play these money games. The Tech game last year was great. Name opponent, big crowd, lots of energy, and a win; this is what the public wants. A bunch of home games against a bunch of SWAC teams, only produces a bunch of home wins with low attendance, lower RPI, and a money road game that usually ends in a loss. I'd rather play an equal amount of home and road games, against teams that will play in Denton, that the public will show up to see, and result in better RPI numbers. Lets keep scheduling Tech, OK State, LSU, and add some C-USA schools, like SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, UTEP, Southern Miss, and UAB. I know fans like you and me, will go see UNT play, but unfortunately, I feel the general public needs more incentive to show up.

http://ae-engine.com/texasfootballmag.html http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1236134

Interesting concept, but I don't think it's the current MGC members who don't "care enough" to cover the scholarships. They ARE donating and they ARE doing what they can to help cover the costs of scholarships. What is needed is for a lot of the folks who are not MGC members and who do not donate to step up and help as best they can. It's not on the backs of the current members who are helping. It's on those who are not!

I think both sides have valid arguments and stances on things. I'm not one to pick one side and no matter what stick to that ideology even if I don't necessarily agree with it. I think there is usually middle ground and compromise...the world evolves on a daily basis and just being one side without ever regarding the other or others is just something I don't think is good practice. As far as the American's perception of the media....I don't think there is a right answer. For me personally, I don't lean one way if I just watch Fox vs NBC, CNN, ABC etc...I get the information presented to me and try to look at both sides of the argument and try to form my own thoughts. I just wonder if people make too much of what the media has to say whether its conservative or liberal.

The media has its share of conservative douches and liberal douches. Not sure what the fuss is about. If more people were just in the middle moderate I think it would be great. Just my thought.

Man, my bride and I go to England for a wedding and some fun, and a thread about the "Stars and Bars" and slavery and all that starts up! That will teach me not to leave you guys on your own for any length of time. You simply must have adult supervision! I am not touching this one with a ten foot pole! Ha! But....... GO MEAN GREEN!

Counting on a true freshman to not only start, but produce the numbers Carey did last year is a recipe for disaster. Maybe the answer is on the roster, maybe it isn't. But this isn't the answer. Losing Carey will hurt this team, no if, ands, or buts about it. As for everything you said about the coaching staff, I hope (and think) you are right. Coaching can overcome a lot in this conference, which is why I am still hanging onto hope for a 5 win season.

Meh. I miss TulsaFanInTexas...that guy did opposition posting the way sweet, clean Jesus intended.

always personal attacks....you should use some of your energy to humble yourself to look up the information. the difference between you and posters like Silver Eagle, Screaming Eagle and EulessIsMore is that they engage in intellectual conversation and no personal attacks on members and their families. You, CBL, have a history of attacking the person instead of the post.....we call it "Intellectual Bankruptcy." I would much rather sit down and have burgers and beer with Silver, Screamin', and Euless knowing that the conversation would be civil than someone like you who would degerate into personal attacks when they discover that they are wrong. Perhaps one day you will learn that lesson.

meaning no disrespect but your lack of information on the subject does not mean it did not happen......you have a computer....type in some key words and look it up.

Meh. IMO, all these fish-eye photos make the stadium look much smaller than it feels in person.

And where do you see UH fans bragging about attendance? You may see 1 or 2 posts, but you'll see dozens saying we've improved (which we are proud of and will talk about) but we need to continue to improve. And if you think coog57 is an idiot, I'd hate to see what that makes you. He's one of the top 100 trial lawyers in the US. You and your literalness. Maybe he should have said UH needs a stadium 1.5 to 1.67 times larger. Would that make you happy? But no, you have to explode things out of proportion because he wasn't precise to 2 decimal places. Hey UNT fans, did ANY of your fans doubt that UNT would ever build a new stadium? OMG, some pessimist posters on a message board (that probably know nothing) think UH won't get a new stadium so we're doomed to fail. Have you never been on a message board? There are varying opinions on them. Some know what's going on. Some are clueless. And some are trolls like you who just like to stir things up. I remember you read a UH message board troll saying that UH had secured naming rights and we were getting our Big East invitation the next week. So you had to go trumpet it on the Big East board to show how "delusional" our fans were. Never mind that MOST of the posters on that thread said it wasn't happening at that time. Some fans think the end zone is odd. Is that laughing at the stadium? Also on that thread... "unt's football facility dusts us." "UNT's stadium looks fine, and I am happy for them." "Stadium is coming along nicely. It actually looks better "live" than in the renderings." "I think it's nice--distinct. Congratulations Mean Green fans." "Exciting for you guys! I hope you enjoy your new home!" Whoa! What horrible insults! BTW one of the posters "laughing" at the stadium was a UNT fan: "And if you think the end zone is strange, wait until you see the windmills that will be installed to help power the facility! Should make the environmentalist happy. Personally, I think they will be an eyesore." Quit trying to stir up trouble here. You're not a UNT fan. You're a UH hater for some reason (I know. You don't like that UH fans think we "deserve" to be in the BCS when we haven't "earned" it. Do you hate UNT because some of their fans think they "deserve" to be in CUSA or the MWC when they haven't "earned" it? Whatever that means.) Wish I knew what school you went to so we could see if your school "earned" it. There are tons of AQ schools that earned nothing other than they were in a conference 100 years ago. And congrats, of your 5 posts, you actually made 1 that was about UNT. Unfortunately it was to say that UNT is not worthy of your support, just a school to use to try to advance yourself. You should be so proud. But in that 1 post, you still managed an attempt to put down UH. That makes 5 for 5 posts on this site negative about UH. Why the hatred for UH? Why do you go so far as to come on a UNT board (where you go to school) JUST to post about UH that you have NO affiliation with? Why do you go on a Big East board to do the same thing? I've never seen one go so far out of their way to just to put down another school that they have no affiliation with. You've never posted on the UNT board about UNT, but a game with UH is coming up so you need to be on here to post negatively about it. And what school do you support that you went to for your undergrad? I'm sure these people want to know since you're saying UNT is not worthy of your support, but your other school is. And what name do you go by Coogfans? Does anyone on this board trust someone who goes by multiple screen names, won't say all of their screen names, and won't reveal what school they went to?

I thought that an effective AD did that, silly me.

This is a copy of TCU's OOC basketball schedule from last season. They had Bradley, SMU, Houston and USC all play in Fort Worth, and they had away games against Tech, Nebraska, Tulsa and Rice. I would expect TCU will be going on the road for return games against SMU, Houston, and USC, if they want them to. I'm sure Tech, Tulsa, and Rice will all give them a return game. I don't expect UNT to bring USC to the Super Pit, but we have a better basketball program then TCU. We should be able to schedule similar teams at home and on the road. They play some SWAC teams but not too many, and the Nebraska game might be a money game, but Nebraska is not Texas. They would not be a easy game, but they are more beatable then Texas. 2010-2011 SCHEDULE Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result 11/02/10 vs. Rogers State (Exhibition) Fort Worth, Texas W, 70-53 11/12/10 vs. Jackson State Fort Worth, Texas W, 86-62 11/16/10 vs. SMU TV Fort Worth, Texas W, 84-64 Basketball Hall of Fame Tip-Off Tournament 11/20/10 vs. Rider Springfield, Mass. L, 76-61 11/21/10 vs. Bradley Springfield, Mass. W, 74-68 11/22/10 vs. Massachusetts Springfield, Mass. L, 67-48 11/27/10 vs. Houston Fort Worth, Texas W, 79-63 11/29/10 vs. USC TV Fort Worth, Texas W, 81-69 12/01/10 vs. Prairie View A&M Fort Worth, Texas W, 78-61 12/04/10 vs. Northern Iowa TV Fort Worth, Texas L, 64-60 12/08/10 at Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W, 81-77 12/11/10 at Nebraska TV Lincoln, Neb. L, 70-56 12/21/10 vs. Northwestern State Fort Worth, Texas W, 96-79 12/28/10 vs. Chicago State Fort Worth, Texas W, 99-72 12/30/10 at Tulsa Tulsa, Okla. L, 69-66 01/02/11 at Rice Houston, Texas L, 70-61

So why don't you go ahead and call UNT fans delusional? How long has it been since UNT has averaged 20k in attendance? So why do they need a 30k seat stadium? The reason: You plan for where you're hoping to go, not where you've been. I'm hoping UNT makes it to where they not only need the 30k seats, but that it also has to expand past that. Based on their history it's going to be tough for them. But I'm not going to call them delusional for building a 30k seat stadium because they're building for the future. Does UH need a 60k stadium this year? No. Will we need it in the next 5 years? Doubtful. But we didn't really need a 30k seat stadium 5 years ago. This season UH probably needs about a 40k seat stadium based on last year's attendance and a linear regression of attendance over the last decade. Instead we'll just sell out all of our games this year which increases season ticket demand in the future which increases overall attendance. So we hope to build 40k soon based on recent goals and projected growth. But you prepare to need 50+k if the growth continues Not that you care about the answer, you're only trying to point out UH negatives, but I'll answer your question for real UNT fans in case they're curious: Regarding UH's stadium funding situation, we're at $51 million of the $120mm without naming rights and without going to the general UH population, still sticking to just the big dollar donors. We need approximately $29mm more to start building. Initial estimates in the independent feasibility study had naming rights estimated at $30mm. That may be high, but I guess it depends on the length of the contract. UCF got $15mm for 15 years in 2006 from Bright House Networks. Supposedly there are 3 bidders currently for UH naming rights. We'll see how that goes. Regarding your question about Coogfans laughing at UNT's stadium? No one has done that. We wish we had a new stadium too. Luckily, UH's needs right now and for the future are larger than what UNT currently needs. We already have a stadium that holds more than 30k (although UNT's is newer and nicer) so we don't need a 30k stadium. We need a larger stadium at a higher cost. If we wanted to build a $78mm stadium, we have enough funding in place to start construction. But we're building a $120mm stadium. It's going to take us some more time. But we will get there, just like UNT got the stadium they needed. I'm sure there are plenty of UNT fans who weren't sure that the day would come when they'd get a new stadium. Congrats to them. I for one am going to enjoy that stadium the 1st game of the season and hopefully more. I may even make the Mean Green Stadium movie night. It sounds like a fun event. And like many UNT fans, I'd love for UH and UNT to start scheduling a home and home series. I think it would be a win-win for both schools. Close enough that fans can travel. Don't have to take 2 for 1 and 3 for 1 series with AQ schools. Screw them. If they won't do a home and home (or even 2 for 1s when you beat them), let them have FCS schools. This post has been promoted to an article

Because he's not a UNT fan even though he attends the school. He won't even watch UNT on TV. The only reason he's going is hoping that UH loses.

My pet peeve is forum police.

Dude - I just could never bring myself to watch Chris Noth f' a horse.

I've voted mainly conservative in my lifetime, and she's a threat to what I think and believe.

Actually they stopped locking the threads.

Yeah - but a guy like that would never even talk to a little school like ol' North Texas....

--- Just my opinion , but if the South had won... I think that Texas would have split off eventually.... Not a lot similarities with the other southern states and not a huge slave population. I doubt that they would have agreed with Richmond or others trying to tell us what to do. There were a lot of people in Texas that did not support it--- recent immigrants, and even Sam Houston. The Denton, Sherman, north Texas area had a lot Southern deserters and dissidents.... so many that Southern army personal would not try to catch them.... outnumbered. There was even a battle near ?Kerrville? between Rebel forces and German settlers who would not join the Confederate army. --- I am very Southern (especially Texan).... and I think the Southern army was better but just had less resources..... but I am glad we didn't win because America would not be what it is today. I agree with what my father always said... it was "a rich man's (slave-owners) war but the poor man's fight". Most in the South did not own slaves (85-90%) but they fought because it was their home were not very fond of those arrogant funny talking people from the north [much more regional accents than today with mass communications] . Some up there still think they are better, smarter, etc. than "those southern hicks". ---Those who claim it was about state rights are trying to gloss over the real reason...slavery... no doubt there were other issues but slavery and the economic system it supported was #1. The war started after Lincoln was elected but had not been inaugurated.... it was no secret he opposed slavery.... and they feared what would happen.

Absolutely...I think I said the "root cause" or some-such wording...but that was in response to the people who try to create a whole laundry list of causes to supersede slavery, or, as ee has done so satirically (hilarious stuff, BTW) to attempt to lessen or downplay the significance of the slavery issue. I, and a large number of respected Civil War historians, believe that the slavery issue was the elephant in the room that fired on Ft. Sumter. All other issues (state's rights, economics, demographics, cultural differences, etc) are either secondary or have the common thread of slavery woven throughout.

Where did he really attack your family? You brought your family into the discussion, and then he said if your son believes the crazy nebulously cited "internet history", then he would also be wrong. I don't consider it attack on someone to say they are wrong, maybe some with a "revisionist" view of the word attack may think otherwise.

Getting yourself kicked off a team is the same as quitting. Adios Darius. We don't need quitters.

I think you'll find most Coog fans to be friendly and reasonable, especially if you're friendly and reasonable. If you're a jerk, especially on an opponent's site, you can expect the same to be returned. There will be exceptions as there are with every fan base, but if you show respect with Coog fans, you'll get it from most in return.

The inital study in this thread really isn't about whether the media is liberal or conservative, but about American's perception of whether the media is liberal or conservative. As far as being in the middle, pick a damn side, already!!!