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Thank you for the information, I know it is a long shot. He wants to be a college coach and plans to attend grad school too, as a player or grad assistant at UNT if that is possible.

Games are slowly leaking out. Here is what I have so far. Do we know of any others? 11.9 Oklahoma Christian (D2) 11.15 Buffalo 11.18 UT-Arlington 11.25 Kansas (ESPN Events Invitational @Orlando) *ESPN/ESPN2 11.26 ESPN Events Invitational 11.28 ESPN Events Invitational 12.4 Nevada *Stadium 12.11 UMASS (@Ft Worth) *FLO Sports 12.14 Sam Houston State 12.18 @ Wichita State *ESPN+ 12.21 Tulsa (Compete 4 Cause Classic) *ESPN+ 12.28 LSU-Alexandria 1.1 Rice *ESPN+ 1.6 UAB *CBSSN 1.8 Middle Tennessee 1.13 @ Marshall *ESPN+ 1.15 @ Western Kentucky *Stadium 1.20 Charlotte *ESPNU 1.22 Old Dominion *ESPN+ 1.27 @ Southern Miss *ESPN+ 1.29 @ Louisiana Tech *Stadium 2.3 UTEP 2.5 UTSA *ESPN+ 2.12 @ Rice 2.17 @ Florida Atlantic *ESPN+ 2.19 @ UAB *Stadium 2.24 Southern Miss *ESPN+ 2.26 Louisiana Tech *Stadium 3.3 @ UTSA *ESPN+ 3.5 @ UTEP *ESPN+

I don’t think any school is going to allow the players to market cigarettes, booze, and strippers. ok maybe USC.

In college, he absolutely was. Bush racked up a bunch of highlights. VY made a much bigger difference in every game he played. I think their lone head-to-head matchup backs me up! NFL... it’s a shame he didn’t get drafted into today’s game. I think he would look a lot like Josh Allen. He would have done very well. Being stuck in TN with Fisher, who couldn’t figure out how to use him. But yeah, I’d say Bush’s NFL career was a little better, even though VY has more accolades.

If he can contribute, welcome aboard. Hope he pushes for playing time

We have a pretty full QB room, Austin Aune (returning starter), Jace Ruder (transfer with 4 years left from NC), Kason Martin (3rd String but has played sparingly), Armani Gilmore (transfer Kentucky), Bryce Drummond (Pioneer Womans son), and Will Kuhene. All of our QBs are Freshman or Sophomores. I'm not trying to discourage him, but just wanted to give you the information.

This probably won’t be a popular opinion, but Vince Young should have won that Heisman anyway.

.Future Mean Green mom here! My son is transferring to UNT this fall and plans to try for a walk on. He was a scholarship player (recruited from high school) for a national champ D2 program and decided to leave after his sophmore year after a complete coaching change. Junior year was a D3 program that just didn't fit. Long story short, he just wants to play or at least make the scout team. Y'all seem to have a good pulse on this program and was interested in your thoughts and/or any advice/information. He is a QB. Thanks in advance 🙂

"Our Mission. The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity..."--Heisman Trust

He wasn’t a better player than Reggie Bush…in college OR the NFL

Welcome to the Mean Green family!

Did you even read it guy. Don’t conflate the two. SMU was paying players, that is common knowledge, that situation is completely different from the Reggie Bush incident.

I think we are way too bullish on our offensive line outlook for this year. We have really yet to prove we can move the ball on anyone other than cellar dwellers. I think there is more talent on the OL than at any time in the SL era but our best offensive games were against UTEP, MTSU, and HBU. We scored 35 against SMU(two late TD's) 31 against LT & USM but those were ten point losses and 28 against App State. I don't think we will be bad up front but to call this a top 5 CUSA unit or think of it as a strength heading in to 2021 is over the top in my opinion.

There's no basis for this. The demand really isn't there at UNT and programs alike and that's the problem of all of this. The demand is created by the exposure. The exposure was created by major state politics even before the SWC was created. The train sort of always left the station on programs like UNT, but there was always a glimmer of hope that catching up was a possibility. This has killed all realities of that. And in foresight, attendance will plummet as will exposure.

All, I spoke with the owner Rob yesterday and he is excited to have us back for the upcoming football watching parties. If you live in the area, stop by and have a beer or two, they even have live bands on the weekend. Address : 352 Town Place Fairview, TX 75069 Hours - Thursday 4pm to 2am, Friday 4pm to 2am and Saturday 4pm to 2am. Closed July 3rd* He will be opening up more days starting in August.

Ultimately what I think will happen with all of this is that top tier athletes will be the only ones who end up with long term deals worth anything significant. I think most businesses are ultimately going to realize they aren't seeing the return the market is suggesting, and they will back off. I also believe most boosters are not going to divert tax-deductible dollars from schools to pay athletes, leaving much of the college athletics model as business as usual.

Why not? SMU is allowing them to market hookers, Hyundai's and meth.

Yet Johnny Manziel still has his trophy....

In case anyone actually wants to discuss football here… Hard to argue with these two choices. Both need to be at all-conference level for this season to go well. If Novil has 13 TFL like in 2019 and is consistent game-to-game, the NFL will notice.

I loved how quiet VY was in 2005. Hated the media hype that surrounded the USC program of that era. VY: Spectacular Longhorn career and the hero of one of the best games ever played. But I think he benefited from being on the right team, at the right time for himself and his skillset. having said that, if we had a CFB fantasy draft that covered players from the last 50 years, Bush is probably one of my top 3 picks. VY would not be one of my top 3 QBs.

Not sure why you're saying this. I follow most of the teams in our league. We've been pretty cutting edge during WB's tenure. I would rank our social media content, stream production quality, game experience, etc. at or near the top of CUSA. I tihnk UNT athletics today outperforms most other CUSA and non power 5 institutions. The fact that not one student-athlete has expressed concern on social media during the "woke generation" we live in tells me there's been communication behind the scenes with coaches and student-athletes. NIL was allowed July 1st. UNT announced a program on July 1st was one of the better known companies who's partnering with many P5s. Not sure what else could be expected . Also some schools have announced a "program" but have no outside company helping (ie UTSA). Not sure that is really a program. Sounds like it's a website and those schools aren't really investing in it.

Thanks! He definitely loves a challenge and welcomes competition. Especially now that he feels he has something to prove.

Not sure how you came up with that. I did not say anywhere that he cheated on the field.

Basically zero. He may throw some stuff to them during warmups or drills, but as far as actual reps during a team activity, scrimmage, or 7 on 7 a walk-on would never really be the one throwing to the starting wideouts.

Sure, he attempted to cheat punishment. He didn’t cheat against the competition. That was pretty clearly your implication to begin with. Didn’t expect you to dig in this deep, or that clarifying that Reggie Bush’ infraction was not cheating would be so contentious.

OK, so now to some of you breaking the rules is not cheating? Guess you can justify what you want and fault those who do not agree with you.

You mean like Only Fans? Hahaha

Well that comment aged well... 😉

So, through this line of thinking, how does that effect ESPN, Fox Sports, any major network covering games, Sport Illustrated, newspapers writing articles about the games that includes pictures from the games, etc....

Squad limits are 105 which only 85 can be scholarship players. Not adjusted for all the coronavirus special rules currently in effect. So there are always so called walk-ons. If you are referring to true walk ons, ones that are not recruited; I doubt there are many anymore. They go through the motions asking the student body if anyone would like to walk on, but don't expect any Rudy type players to make the team. Just about any player who gets a D1 fbs scholarship is rated a 3 star. Although, NT did have a late signee with only 2 stars. probably because 247 didn't bother to raise it to 3.

UTSA has joined the fun and announced their schedule. 2.5 in Denton 3.3 in San Antone

No, I got ya--my wording was probably confusing. You are right--TT has never won an outright football championship! 👍

Not sure what you're getting at? What does Young have to do with Bush getting the Heisman trophy back?

Just because I’m bored. Hypothetically speaking….would North Texas given Mason Fine (while he was still playing and if the NIL was in place) a cut from all of the UNT shirts written in Cherokee?

Good idea - I will pass the info to him about special teams. Thank you for the idea and kind wishes!

Winning and winning consistently (people should put this on a shirt by now) that’s always been the biggest hurdle for The North Texas brand

Yeah that would definitely cause some potential problems. Again, that’s the kind of thing that I’ll start worrying about if there’s an indication. Does it start happening and to what degree will be the things to monitor. We have definitely seen it happen where kids with a lot of financial support from there family have chose to walk on at bigger programs. Luke Del Rio, son of NFL coach Jack Del Rio, decommitted from OK State to walk on at Alabama a while back. Around that time we were recruiting a Liberty Christian lineman who chose to walk on at OK State instead. And obvious the NCAA is a joke so relying on them to enforce things is going to be another huge variable.

What changed that offense was having the top 4 running backs, led by Jamaal Charles, run for a combined 2,284 yards with each averaging 4.8 yards or better. Vince Young’s bread and butter was throwing to single covered wideouts or the tight end as a check down. His TD to INT ratio that year was 2.6:1 For comparison, Matt Leinart’s ratio in 2005 was 2.8:0.8 and Tim Tebow, the most apt comparison to VY given their stature and propensity to tuck and run, threw for more yards and TD’s with a higher completion percentage than VY’s 2005 season in the 2007 season where he did win the Heisman trophy. Granted, VY took off a LOT more and ran for more yards (by 200). And when ESPN did their list of top 150 players in college football’s 150 year history, VY ranked #81, 20 spots below Reggie Bush. When The Score ranked the top individual seasons in the last 20 years by a college football player, Reggie Bush’s 2005 season was #5. VY was not in the top 10.

Once Mack Brown let VY play like VY, he was the best player in college football. He did not “benefit” from being on the right team. Brown tried to force Young to be a pocket passer during his first year and it failed miserably. Then Brown changed the system to fit Vince. And when he did, they won a national championship. That is impact.

Is he willing to participate on special teams? If he can deep snap or has good hands he might be able to find a spot on special teams. Wish him and your family the best! GMG

You don't think USC knew what was happening? As I said, some will justify breaking the rules/cheating when it's for something they agree with and then want to see those they dislike punished. PS - I believe SMU got what they deserved. At the time they were the worst of the worst of what was going on. During that time the Athletic parking lot at A&M had more new Tran-AMs than any car dealership had on their lots. A friend of mine who played there received 2 new cars during his time. As he said at the time "everyone does it". Still does not mean it wasn't cheating.

This is like saying SMU did not pay the players

we've had, at a minimum, the NFL footprint to follow. There are established industries and agents completely rabid to get into this money stream. I hope WB and Co have done some courting of those specialist.

This would never happen. Texas is happy right now knowing that, if they can beat OU, they have a pretty nice path to the playoff. They want no part of playing in a, as the article title suggests, “stronger conference.” They don’t want to see Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and aTM in consecutive weeks.

I (admittedly) haven’t done much reading on reactions to this new policy, but I’m in the group that thinks it is simultaneously the right thing to do, and also severely damages the spirit of college sports.

Do we have any alumni or boosters or even a plan in place to help facilitate our guys to make the most of this?

I don’t know Jalie or how happy she is at UNT but if I’m the AD I sit down with her after every season and ask her what she needs to keep moving in the right direction and then do whatever it takes to get it to her. There’s no way I let a distinguished former athlete fail here especially if she wants to be here.

I would. I remember the consecutive conference titles...though I have to say, CUSA wasn't really all that strong back then and who did he really beat? I also remember that the current Super PIt is a completely different building than the old one and that the athletic department's budget is WAY different than it was back when he was here. Remember that time the team bus broke down on the way to UT and they had to take fans who had won a bus ride down off of their bus so that the team could make it there on time? Man, I sure do. TOTALLY comparable to back when DD was here.