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I enjoyed your thoughtful post here. I deleted the backstory for brevity, but I suspect many had similar experiences, and like yours, they are all valid. Regarding the thread title--the title is provocative on purpose. It is intended to provoke discussion and a response to the topic. Similar to the NYT Is A Joke topic. When we get into which groups and activities are allowed "freedom" by the state, and which aren't--we are entering DANGEROUS territory and times. If the marches and protests are allowed (and they are, and SHOULD be) then the person that wants to bury their mother and invite whoever they want to the funeral should be able to--period. That is not what is happening. We can't allow the state to divide the public and enforce laws based on a shifting interpretation of what is "right and wrong" which is influenced by a specific group.

Sometimes we all need to at least find something that we can all be thankful for. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/u-s-jobless-rate-unexpectedly-fell-in-may-as-hiring-rebounded/ar-BB154ATi?ocid=msedgdhp

If everyone is wearing a mask then the people wearing a mask are protected.

The Times published it, and then was cowed into disavowing it. Either they didn't read it, proof it, or edit it before they published (very unlikely, but if so, inexcusable), or they were browbeaten into disavowing it. How about they let the reader make a decision on whether they can understand the difference between news and opinion? They shouldn't trot out the "You're a child. With a child's mind" excuse for specific opinion pieces and not others. If they're so concerned about the public's collective mental capacity and the safety of their employees, maybe they should either stop doing it altogether, or publish their op-ed articles in the pages of Highlights or Nickelodeon.

I was about a month into my freshman year of college, sitting on the floor of the Language Building, when I watched planes fly into the World Trade Center. I remember feeling a strong call to action...I helped man a Red Cross hotline, donated blood(despite a paralyzing fear of needles)...and despite my already underlying (if un-catagorized) "liberal" tendencies, I remember nearly verbatim saying to a friend "I'm glad we have a Texan in the White House." I wanted blood. a few months later, I was (for so many reasons) on the banner for an anti-war protest. I share this b/c I'm sure that those who have read my posts for the last decade-plus are un-surprised that I protested the war while in school...yet I fear we're all so deep in our partisan, dual-reality-only beliefs that many feel it's impossible for some hippie anti-war liberal like me to have had an immediate vengeful visceral reaction to 9/11. I'm wrestling with similar feelings as I type this. My current community is very much a liberal echo chamber. My friends have immediately taken up the banner. And while I support them, for numerous reasons I've yet to brush up against a barricade... one of the most significant is how do I (and we) square the call to collectively demonstrate with the belief that the safest thing for society is to socially distance. I've yet to actively protest in large part b/c of this intellectual inconsistency. its too easy to say that the death of black man to police brutality is more significant than opening a nail parlor, but that doesn't align with an overall prioritization of safety-over-economy. that said...I think the article you've posted and certainly the title of this thread are biased and unfair. it's purely binary thinking and attempts to diminish both Covid caution and BLM in one fell swoop.

When they published their next day headline a few days ago it was not critical of President Trump and they got so much push from the Democrats that they changed it before the print edition

No problem for SMUT!

https://reason.com/2020/06/04/new-york-times-journalists-scared-to-have-an-op-ed-page/

Let's see .. Ford Stadium - SMU. The stadium has a seating capacity of 32,000 So 50% puts them at 16K, yet they will still report 23K

Jimmy Gales was the head coach of the Mean Green basketball team from 1986-87 to 1992-93, in addition to serving as an assistant under former coach Bill Blakeley from 1975 to 1983.

From that video, I think it was handled professionally by the cop despite the ridiculous amount of juvenile nonsense he had to deal with.

That's interesting...within a minute of posting the topic someone gives it an eye roll. Obviously, has not watched the video, but felt the need to "eye roll"...interesting...maybe a relative of Councilwomen Armintor...Ha! BTW, Councilwoman Armintor is a professor of English at UNT.

I do not think most people WANT to call in the military. While they support the peaceful protest, when things get out of control they hope that the local and state forces will be utilized to protect citizens against looting and destruction. At the same time you are starting to see liberal Democrats talking about defunding and dismantling police departments. What do you foresee happening if this happens?

Johnson used it for the same reasons as Trump as did H.W. Bush and we seem to have survived those times just fine. What is dangerous and mind boggling is that a month ago these same Governors were arresting people for walking on a beach and now they are standing by while their communities are being destroyed. Regarding the area in bold, this couldn't be further from the truth. Nobody is advocating a "military interventionist state," but we are advocating for a stop to the destruction of property, theft, graffiti, murder, assaults, etc... that have nothing to do with the Constitutional right of protesting peacfully.

quite literally, in the course of less than a month the same people have gone from protesting government over-reach to advocating a military interventionist police state. invoking the Insurrection Act in response to demonstrations around institutional brutality is at best dangerous...at worst it is meant to be further divisive and put to the streets the us vs. them mentality we've mostly only seen played out through policy and social media argument. deploying the military is basically asking to personify the Pie Forum.

I'll say what we're all thinking. If FSU doesn't play this fall....UNT to the ACC?????

It's almost as if some people "vote" based on the person posting, not the content of the post 🤔

It's amazing that people are still seeming to be OK with looters and vandalism but if it's a conservative protest, no matter how peaceful, they think they are evil.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/04/trump_team_whatever_happened_to_social_distancing.html

Isn’t that ultimately an individual decision where you weigh perceived costs vs perceived benefits. I watched an interview of a city councilman in a large city who said that the protests were the direct cause of “the Attorney General of Wisconsin filing charges against the other 3 officers.” Yes he said “Wisconsin”. A black elected official who clearly knows nothing about Keith Ellison. If that was the only objective of the protest, and I am not saying that it was or that the councilman said it was, then it was unnecessary. If you have higher objectives and believe they outweigh risks to you or society then demonstrate.

You're right. There was nothing in your post to reply to, as it was not on topic. I think whenever the media is cowed into what is "fit to print" (ironic), then we have set a very dangerous precedent. The New York Times! The "paper of record"! On the op-ed page! It can't be thought of as a "paper of record" if it has no stones.

The New York Times is a joke.

Even at Florida State? (because that doesn't sound right)

Not NT related but for those familiar with the history of Arky athletics this is surprising. https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2020/jun/05/razorback-coaches-given-ok-schedule-arkansas-state/

Hopefully, the link I posted works. But, the police have released the full 40min. Plus video of the arrest. I watched the full video. I encourage you to do the same. Much has been made of this arrest...what ya think? https://dentonrc.com/news/unt-police-release-footage-in-arrest-of-black-man/article_9f793c6a-5a67-501d-bb3b-6820b965d678.html

😂😂😂. Ya think? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

They can peacefully protest not being able to golf, eat brunch, or whatever strikes them as cause worthy. Far be it for me to think of them as snowflakes.

is this going to get deleted if you're conceptions are challenged? asking for a friend...

Crickets

Good man ..... gone too soon

There’s not much else you can say when so many allow the dishonest news to frame the narratives instead of thinking for themselves.

I knew him well...we worked together and was privileged to be around him. Condolences to the family.

This sucks! He was there during my playing days. I always enjoyed our conversations. RIH!

The best part of being CUSA is every team wants to be somewhere else. Does not say a lot of the future of the conference when every team has a foot out the door. We are all waiting for the better looking girlfriend.

I have not seen one person who has an issue with people peaceably assembling. However, when it turns to looting, attacking people, and vandalizing I am fairly confident those are not protected rights.

The Texas National Guard is under Gov. Abbott's control. When activated by the State Governor they are normally under Title 32 orders. Normally the Feds pay for this and the Governor retains control. If the POTUS wants control they are placed on Title 10 orders and are considered active duty and can be moved at his discretion to any location. The state can also pay out of pocket but this decreases the service members pay ( possibly down to minimum wage) and would kill recruiting. At this point any active duty units deployed (82n A/B Division Ready Brigade if given a mission) are mainly protecting federal property not engaging protesters unless they start trying to force there way on to federal property. POTUS has already provided funds for states to use for Title 32 orders.

Well said and I couldn't agree more. If I were Coach Littrell, I'd offer Mason a year-to-year job as an Asst. QB Coach with an opt-out clause if/when the NFL calls. I'd have him lift weights and workout with the team so he can continue to develop into a NFL body and keep his skills sharp. He would be assigned a dedicated film crew to showcase his arm talent and leadership abilities, on tape. Because of Mason Fine's unique background, he is the ultimate underdog story and his journey should be told in cinematic fashion. Netflix and ESPN+ are yearning for sports documentary content like this and it's a proven way to gain national exposure. (Example: LAST CHANCE U on Netflix https://youtu.be/rFzvBYFrhOc) From a team perspective, the QB room would benefit greatly under his tutelage and leadership from an, "I've been in the trenches with you" and a "you better not let me outwork you" mindset. His corporate knowledge of our offense would only help to further develop our young QBs. At the end of every practice when the defense is gassed, I would unleash Mason on the 1st team DBs to build their 4th quarter readiness. Iron sharpens iron. It would also send a powerful message to future recruits and their parents that we take care for our own and will do everything in our power to help them to chase their dreams. From my perspective it would be a win-win for both Mason and UNT... but I'm just a filmmaker so what do I know.

This is all hypothetical. I'm saying IF Mason were to put up similar numbers in a P5 conference. It's not impossible to get drafted/noticed from a G5 school, I'm just saying that it could have helped his chances.

that they're incomparable? totally. I feel I've made my stance on rioting/looting pretty plain...they align with Dr. King's...its possible to be against violence while simultaneously understanding it...with one breathe condemn riots and with the subsequent condemn the societal structures that caused them. silent and peaceful protests have been taking place for years (and are the majority of this week's events)...they were silenced: "stick to sports"; "you're just an actor"; "hip hop is dangerous"...hell, you even ended one man's football career for a silent and peaceful protest. riots are the language of the unheard. save for the clear difference in the scale of what they're protesting...you know why that top group isn't rioting? they're heard. all the douchebaging time. they're the voice. they're not looting and taking because they already have. they're not destroying property because it's theirs. it's their system.

See where the DC mayor wants the guard kicked out the hotels in DC. She is referencing the 3rd Amendment : No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. And these same liberals talk about Trump trying to bend the Constitution.If you want to disrespect Trump that is her/your call, but do not disrespect the Guardsmen who are following orders. Question; in the case of DC which is not a state and does not have a Governor, does the mayor have the authority like the Governor is states? PS - If there is a hotel that wants the troops out I would make sure they are cut off from every future Government "approved vendor" list.

RIP Coach.

Unfortunately, I think he won't be playing on Sundays. He was a really good college QB. However, the NFL is hyper competitive and the overwhelming majority of players never play in the league. That's why getting your degree is so important. Even if you get in the league the average career is like 3 years. Fine is a smart guy, tough, and obviously a hard worker. He will do great even if he isn't throwing a ball.

Genuinely curious. Can someone explain to me why this is a bad take when Kyler went first overall and Mason likely won’t ever play in the NFL? Theoretically, according to the responses to this post, Kyler Murray also goes number 1 overall if he played one season at UNT?

You have proven yourself to either be lying or willfully ignorant repeatedly in these threads. Staying away from infected people is basically only way to keep from getting it currently. That and covering your mouth and nose to prevent exhaled droplets from getting into the air. This is basic stuff here and not really up for debate. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period. Spread happens when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, and droplets from their mouth or nose are launched into the air and land in the mouths or noses of people nearby. The droplets can also be inhaled into the lungs. Recent studies indicate that people who are infected but do not have symptoms likely also play a role in the spread of COVID-19. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-social-distancing-uk-cases-how-long-schools-public-transport-close-a9394916.html According to Public Health England, the coronavirus can be spread when people with it have close, sustained contact with others who are not infected. This typically means spending more than 15 minutes within two metres of an infected person, such as talking to someone for instance. https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-transmission-overview Experts believe the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads mainly from person to person. There are several ways this can happen: Droplets. When an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, droplets with the virus fly into the air from their nose or mouth. Anyone who is within 6 feet of that person can breathe those droplets into their lungs. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6493/860 Modeling studies (26) and experience from the Wuhan outbreak (2) indicate that critical care capacities even in high-income countries can be exceeded many times over if distancing measures are not implemented quickly or strongly enough. https://www.uchealth.com/en/media-room/covid-19/the-value-of-social-distancing “It’s all about minimizing the spread of a highly contagious virus,” said Dr. Fichtenbaum. “Social distancing is the concept of keeping away from people, and this typically means limiting contact with any other person. By slowing down the spread of COVID-19, we allow healthcare systems a chance to more readily care for patients.” COVID-19 is a new virus, so healthcare experts continue to learn how it spreads. Currently, it is understood that the virus mainly spreads from person to person through respiratory droplets produced by an infected person who coughs or sneezes. “If you have a pandemic, one strategy is to keep people away from each other so that the infection cannot be passed so easily from one person to another,” said Dr. Fichtenbaum. “Contagious diseases that are passed between persons usually are transmitted more easily when people are in close contact.” https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-social-distancing-and-self-quarantine Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H. , senior director of infection prevention at Johns Hopkins, helps clarify these concepts so you can understand better why they’re being recommended... Social distancing is deliberately increasing the physical space between people to avoid spreading illness. Staying at least six feet away from other people lessens your chances of catching COVID-19. Wear a cloth face covering where social distancing can’t be practiced, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission. The coronavirus pandemic is making everyone aware of handwashing and protecting others from coughs and sneezes. Along with those essential steps, practices such as social and physical distancing, and self-quarantine and isolation when appropriate can slow the rate of infection in a city, town or community. The pandemic can seem overwhelming, but in truth, every person can help slow down the spread of COVID-19.

Wait I thought you said social distancing was not proven effective to prevent COViD.