Breaking News Horton Commits To U N T !

[GreenAlums]

Actually we've got SEVEN 3-star recruits. Troy Franklin is a Scout 3-star and a 5.4 rated Rivals 2-star. 5.5 is 3-star with Rivals & they nick Franklin by .1. With all the good stuff that's been said about his ability, seems that he should have his 3rd star with Rivals also.

Don't get me wrong, I love to count the stars. But when they step on the field the stars go away and we see how all the players do. I really like some of the lower "star" profiles. In that group you are likely to find a kid that has a lot more drive, because they have been working hard, less is given to them. We are in good shape. Great AD, great coaches, great kids, great fans!!

Edited January 25, 2008 by GreenExes

[Green Crazy]

I'd also like to give a shout out to Coach Shelton Gandy for getting this commitment...this was his first commitment that they have him listed for, but it was a good one! All the coaches have done well from the looks of it.

[GMoney]

Simple philosophy about star ratings. In the grand scheme, they don't mean anything until you do it on the field. However, you would rather have recruits with them than without them. As the late great Ron Shanklin used to say, "Potential means you haven't done s#%t yet!" At least those with a solid star rating are being evaluated by multiple people who all see the "potential".

[NTPhiKap99]

Actually we've got SEVEN 3-star recruits. Troy Franklin is a Scout 3-star and a 5.4 rated Rivals 2-star. 5.5 is 3-star with Rivals & they nick Franklin by .1. With all the good stuff that's been said about his ability, seems that he should have his 3rd star with Rivals also.

And as of the past hour or so rivals has upgraded Franklin to 3-star 5.5 so we offically have 7.

I also just noticed although 2 star on rivals scout lists Adryan Adams as 4-star.

[stebo]

Hey '61 - do you have an inside source at Rivals... I just checked their site and they have upped Franklin to a 3 star player... we now have 7 "3 star" players... That is so weird that you posted that last nght and it was fixed today. So weird, lol

http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp...&School=163

SIGNED LETTER OF INTENT Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown

Adryan Adams DB 6-1 185 - 5.2 Miami, OK

Kylee Hill DB 5-10 190 4.5 5.5 Miami, OK

COMMITTED/NOT YET SIGNED Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown

Brandon Akpunku LB 6-0 200 - 5.2 Cedar Hill, TX

Kenny Barrett WR 6-4 190 - 5.3 Mart, TX

Desmond Brigham WR 6-0 169 4.55 5.4 Caddo Mills, TX

Tevinn Cantly DT 6-4 292 - 4.9 Arlington, TX

DaWaylon Cook ATH 6-2 187 4.5 5.5 Dallas, TX

Riley Dodge ATH 6-0 183 4.67 5.7 Southlake, TX

Lance Dunbar RB 5-9 185 - 5.4 Haltom City, TX

Justin Edwards DB 6-1 185 4.5 5.6 Thatcher, AZ

Coleman Feeley OL 6-4 287 5.27 5.4 Austin, TX

Troy Franklin OL 6-5 270 5 5.5 Celina, TX <-------------------------------Now a 5.5 rating which has moved him to 3 star level...

James Hamilton ATH 5-10 180 4.5 5.5 Cedar Hill, TX

Joe Hawthorne DT 6-4 250 4.9 5.1 Arlington, TX

Royce Hill DB 5-11 170 4.52 5.3 Houston, TX

Alonzo Horton DE 6-4 260 4.65 5.6 Senatobia, MS

Jeremy Knott K 6-4 180 - 5.2 Miami, OK

Nick Leppo OL 6-2 245 5.04 5.1 Southlake, TX

Jeremi Mathis RB 6-1 205 - 5.2 Arlington, TX

Jeremy Phillips QB 6-3 184 4.6 5.3 Waller, TX

Forrest Rucker WR 6-5 198 4.56 5.3 Hearne, TX

John Shorter DB 5-11 177 4.5 5.3 Richardson, TX

Willie Taylor ATH 5-10 157 4.5 5.2 Dallas, TX

Darien Williams DB 5-11 180 4.5 5.2 Vernon, TX

Edited January 25, 2008 by stebo

[Eagle1855]

You talk about making the secondary better...get two DE's that can rush the passer...instant upgrade without even having a new DB step on the field

exactly. It all starts up front. great pick up.

[Guest 97and03]

Hey '61 - do you have an inside source at Rivals... I just checked their site and they have upped Franklin to a 3 star player... we now have 7 "3 star" players... That is so weird that you posted that last nght and it was fixed today. So weird, lol

http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp...&School=163

SIGNED LETTER OF INTENT Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown

Adryan Adams DB 6-1 185 - 5.2 Miami, OK

Kylee Hill DB 5-10 190 4.5 5.5 Miami, OK

COMMITTED/NOT YET SIGNED Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR Video Hometown

Brandon Akpunku LB 6-0 200 - 5.2 Cedar Hill, TX

Kenny Barrett WR 6-4 190 - 5.3 Mart, TX

Desmond Brigham WR 6-0 169 4.55 5.4 Caddo Mills, TX

Tevinn Cantly DT 6-4 292 - 4.9 Arlington, TX

DaWaylon Cook ATH 6-2 187 4.5 5.5 Dallas, TX

Riley Dodge ATH 6-0 183 4.67 5.7 Southlake, TX

Lance Dunbar RB 5-9 185 - 5.4 Haltom City, TX

Justin Edwards DB 6-1 185 4.5 5.6 Thatcher, AZ

Coleman Feeley OL 6-4 287 5.27 5.4 Austin, TX

Troy Franklin OL 6-5 270 5 5.5 Celina, TX <-------------------------------Now a 5.5 rating which has moved him to 3 star level...

James Hamilton ATH 5-10 180 4.5 5.5 Cedar Hill, TX

Joe Hawthorne DT 6-4 250 4.9 5.1 Arlington, TX

Royce Hill DB 5-11 170 4.52 5.3 Houston, TX

Alonzo Horton DE 6-4 260 4.65 5.6 Senatobia, MS

Jeremy Knott K 6-4 180 - 5.2 Miami, OK

Nick Leppo OL 6-2 245 5.04 5.1 Southlake, TX

Jeremi Mathis RB 6-1 205 - 5.2 Arlington, TX

Jeremy Phillips QB 6-3 184 4.6 5.3 Waller, TX

Forrest Rucker WR 6-5 198 4.56 5.3 Hearne, TX

John Shorter DB 5-11 177 4.5 5.3 Richardson, TX

Willie Taylor ATH 5-10 157 4.5 5.2 Dallas, TX

Darien Williams DB 5-11 180 4.5 5.2 Vernon, TX

Is there any reason why Knott would not be listed as "Signed Letter of Intent" since he is already enrolled at UNT?

I have asked a couple of people and not gotten an answer.

Oh and to be on-topic. Wow this is a great pickup. I thought that K State would wrap him up during that visit. Bring on the pass rush!

Edited January 25, 2008 by 97and03

[NTPhiKap99]

Is there any reason why Knott would not be listed as "Signed Letter of Intent" since he is already enrolled at UNT?

I have asked a couple of people and not gotten an answer.

Oh and to be on-topic. Wow this is a great pickup. I thought that K State would wrap him up during that visit. Bring on the pass rush!

It must not have been reported to rivals that he's enrolled. I wasn't sure he had enrolled already since he signed after Juco signing day just a week before semester started.

[UNT Mean Green]

DE Alonzo Horton

6'4" 260, 4.65

DE Eddrick Gilmore

6'5" 250, 4.7

Looks like we could have a pair of bookends similar to what MUTS has had the privilege of having the past couple of seasons! Awesome, awesome, awesome pickup! This one is HUGE!!!

[mean green d]

Who's to say they haven't put on a bit of weight either?

[MeanGreen61]

It must not have been reported to rivals that he's enrolled. I wasn't sure he had enrolled already since he signed after Juco signing day just a week before semester started.

If he committed after the JUCO signing period, he'll wait until Feb 6th to sign.

[Guest 97and03]

If he committed after the JUCO signing period, he'll wait until Feb 6th to sign.

That would explain it!

[Charlie NT 73]

I would like to know how Rivals.com develops their total

Rivals.com points. Our current North Texas class with the

24 commitments, and 7- 3 star rated players, has North

Texas at # 76, with 95 total Rivals.com points.

The 2007 North Texas class had 85 points.

Troy, has 16 commits, 4- 3 star players, with 116 Rivals.com

points, and is # 72.

I checked Rivals.com history for North Texas. The highest total

Rivals.com points for North Texas was the 2003 class with 790

Rivals.com points. 2004 was 126, and droped off below 100 for

the 2005 and 2006 classes. What was North Texas record over the

past few years, 5-18? Looks like the record reflects directly to

Rivals.com class points.

Now I am happy as a pig in mud with this class, and not complaining

at all. With a successful 2008 season, the North Texas class for

2009 will be even better, and hopefully earn higher Rivals.com

points.

[EagleMBA]

Charlie has identified an interesting project.

One of you young posters that has access to multiple regression software could design a problem using Rivals points and seasonal won-lost records to determine how much of a correlation exists.

I'd do it myself, but I'm 62, too tired and it would interfere with my Shiner consumption.

Edited January 25, 2008 by EagleMBA

[OldTimer]

Noticed Blake Gumm is still not committed, nor Blasey from Navarro. Blasey may be an academic casualty considering he's not showing any schools of interest. Man, if we could now get Gumm to sign on the dotted line, this could be an unbelievable recruiting class.

Gumm is supposedly visiting Western KY...If he didn't have the grades...I wonder why W KY is still bringing him in?

[H-towngreen]

Rivals point system is askew. If a kid is ranked in his states top ???? then he counts as more points towards thats teams overall recruit rankings. Even though in some smaller Northeast states you kid be in the top 10 with a 5.3 ranking.

[EagleMBA]

Those is some slippery folks in KY...they'll probe until they find a way to git 'er done!

[Green to the Bone]

Rivals point system is askew. If a kid is ranked in his states top ???? then he counts as more points towards thats teams overall recruit rankings. Even though in some smaller Northeast states you kid be in the top 10 with a 5.3 ranking.

This is why I ignored their weighting system when I looked at Texas and Belt recruiting in another thread. I just looked at numbers of 4, 3, 2, and 0 star players, under the reasonable assumption that a 3-star from California and a 3-star from Rhode Island are still both 3-stars. If you have to start comparing where they rank in their respective states, the entire rationale of their star system falls apart.

So if you consent to my simplified comparison, we're far better off than Troy or anybody else in the Belt, and behind only UT, AM, TT and Baylor in Texas. We're just barely behind Baylor; if we picked up just one 4-star, we'd be better off than them.

[HoustonEagle]

Are my eyes deceiving me? We have as many 3 star recruits this year as the last five years combined!

Hell yeah!

Go Mean Green

Edited January 27, 2008 by HoustonEagle