The College Sports Landscape is really being knocked around lately

untjim1995 · August 27, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/sports/jeffrey-kessler-envisions-open-market-for-ncaa-college-athletes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

What would this do to collegiate sports? This would blow the whole thing apart, in my opinion....

forevereagle · August 27, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/sports/jeffrey-kessler-envisions-open-market-for-ncaa-college-athletes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

What would this do to collegiate sports? This would blow the whole thing apart, in my opinion....

It would destroy the concept of fair competition that is barely holding on as it is.

Eagle1855 · August 27, 2014

And so it goes, as the empire erodes and fades away.

North Texas Shep · August 27, 2014

I love the empire, but it must adapt or die. Regardless what happens there will be kids that will be willing to go to schools that can not afford a new norm. For these schools who can not pay, they will offer the same ol stuff and kids will still sign, study, train, and play. The kids I reference play for the love of the game and they are the most fun to watch.

untjim1995 · August 28, 2014

I love the empire, but it must adapt or die. Regardless what happens there will be kids that will be willing to go to schools that can not afford a new norm. For these schools who can not pay, they will offer the same ol stuff and kids will still sign, study, train, and play. The kids I reference play for the love of the game and they are the most fun to watch.

I tend to agree with you, but the Ivy League is full of the players you talk about and have all that history and no one even pays a bit of attention to them beyond their fans.

I just cannot imagine a college football world that involves HS kids getting signing bonuses and salaries...at least legally (see SMU)

Cerebus · August 28, 2014

THIS is the case I told you guys would change CFB. The media was fixated on the O'Bannon case, but that was going to change the current model at best. The Jenkins case will blow everything to smithereens.

HoustonEagle · August 28, 2014

http://youtu.be/NoBFhdeR9PE

forevereagle · August 28, 2014

The saddest part of the whole thing is that education is the last thing on everyone's mind here. There will be students who will lose the opportunity at a college education because of all this.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · August 28, 2014

I posted just a couple of weeks ago that what they were fighting for was to legalize what they busted SMU for 30 years ago.

Again, they are tired of policing themselves. They now refuse to police themselves.

Instead of reigning in boosters, they will now take the boosters' money and give it directly to the players - after taking their cut.

You ask what you get for playing nice? For UNT having a clean record with the NCAA all of these years and decades? Nothing. No one cares.

Not just in athletics, whether people admit it or not, we are in the post-ethics era of American industry. I see it every day in my business - insurance and risk management.

It does not matter whether you cut corners to get ahead. It does not matter what happens to your employees. Mergers are no longer fought on antitrust ground. What the government fought against 100 years ago - monopolies - is now sanctioned by the government.

I've said before that America is going the way of Mexico, and people laugh it off. But, look at Mexico. It's government favors certain businesses and business people, and practically grants them near or complete monopolies in most industries. They could care less about the harm it does to competition...and, in turn to its citizenry. For all they care, their citizens can leave and go to America - and, they are encouraged to do so.

But, what will happen now that America's government is now following suit? We've already seen the "Too Big To Fail" stamp of approval given to corporate sloppiness and greed. Our economy is stagnant even to our own citizenry.

NCAA football and sports? Who cares whether the big squash the little? We're already to the point of doing away with certain men's sports anyway. Long past that.

You are deceived into thinking this is open and pure capitalism. But, it not. It is a strain of capitalism mixed in the socialist protection from the judiciary and legislative branches.

We are screwed either way, athletically, because our university decided not to put athletics first. And, beyond that, our athletic directors and coaches have chosen to play by the rules...foolishly believing those not following the rules would be punished and want to compete fairly.

In short, we were naive about the whole thing.

Ethics? Forget about it. We're post-ethics. Ethics is just a word used in seminars to help you get your CE credits as a professional. It really means noting.

Edited August 28, 2014 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

forevereagle · August 28, 2014

I posted just a couple of weeks ago that what they were fighting for was to legalize what they busted SMU for 30 years ago.

Again, they are tired of policing themselves. They now refuse to police themselves.

Instead of reigning in boosters, they will now take the boosters' money and give it directly to the players - after taking their cut.

You ask what you get for playing nice? For UNT having a clean record with the NCAA all of these years and decades? Nothing. No one cares.

Not just in athletics, whether people admit it or not, we are in the post-ethics era of American industry. I see it every day in my business - insurance and risk management.

It does not matter whether you cut corners to get ahead. It does not matter what happens to your employees. Mergers are no longer fought on antitrust ground. What the government fought against 100 years ago - monopolies - is now sanctioned by the government.

I've said before that America is going the way of Mexico, and people laugh it off. But, look at Mexico. It's government favors certain businesses and business people, and practically grants them near or complete monopolies in most industries. They could care less about the harm it does to competition...and, in turn to its citizenry. For all they care, their citizens can leave and go to America - and, they are encouraged to do so.

But, what will happen now that America's government is now following suit? We've already seen the "Too Big To Fail" stamp of approval given to corporate sloppiness and greed. Our economy is stagnant even to our own citizenry.

NCAA football and sports? Who cares whether the big squash the little? We're already to the point of doing away with certain men's sports anyway. Long past that.

You are deceived into thinking this is open and pure capitalism. But, it not. It is a strain of capitalism mixed in the socialist protection from the judiciary and legislative branches.

We are screwed either way, athletically, because our university decided not to put athletics first. And, beyond that, our athletic directors and coaches have chosen to play by the rules...foolishly believing those not following the rules would be punished and want to compete fairly.

In short, we were naive about the whole thing.

Ethics? Forget about it. We're post-ethics. Ethics is just a word used in seminars to help you get your CE credits as a professional. It really means noting.

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untjim1995 · August 28, 2014

I posted just a couple of weeks ago that what they were fighting for was to legalize what they busted SMU for 30 years ago.

Again, they are tired of policing themselves. They now refuse to police themselves.

Instead of reigning in boosters, they will now take the boosters' money and give it directly to the players - after taking their cut.

You ask what you get for playing nice? For UNT having a clean record with the NCAA all of these years and decades? Nothing. No one cares.

Not just in athletics, whether people admit it or not, we are in the post-ethics era of American industry. I see it every day in my business - insurance and risk management.

It does not matter whether you cut corners to get ahead. It does not matter what happens to your employees. Mergers are no longer fought on antitrust ground. What the government fought against 100 years ago - monopolies - is now sanctioned by the government.

I've said before that America is going the way of Mexico, and people laugh it off. But, look at Mexico. It's government favors certain businesses and business people, and practically grants them near or complete monopolies in most industries. They could care less about the harm it does to competition...and, in turn to its citizenry. For all they care, their citizens can leave and go to America - and, they are encouraged to do so.

But, what will happen now that America's government is now following suit? We've already seen the "Too Big To Fail" stamp of approval given to corporate sloppiness and greed. Our economy is stagnant even to our own citizenry.

NCAA football and sports? Who cares whether the big squash the little? We're already to the point of doing away with certain men's sports anyway. Long past that.

You are deceived into thinking this is open and pure capitalism. But, it not. It is a strain of capitalism mixed in the socialist protection from the judiciary and legislative branches.

We are screwed either way, athletically, because our university decided not to put athletics first. And, beyond that, our athletic directors and coaches have chosen to play by the rules...foolishly believing those not following the rules would be punished and want to compete fairly.

In short, we were naive about the whole thing.

Ethics? Forget about it. We're post-ethics. Ethics is just a word used in seminars to help you get your CE credits as a professional. It really means noting.

TFLF,

I don't always see eye-to-eye with your views, but I always enjoy reading your posts. And this post is one of your best, on all fronts. From where the NCAA is not at, to the place that big colleges chose to go with football and other revenue sports to get ahead, all the way to the place where we at UNT refused to go with athletics because of various factors, your post just about covers it perfectly.

College athletics, as we have known them, is about to get drawn and quartered. If this guy's plan gets put into law, the whole landscape is gonna get nuked, basically. You would basically have about 20-30 schools that would/could participate in a pay-for-play deal with big enough fanbases to appease the networks and media outlets. And the biggest losers in that scenario are gonna be those P5 schools who have built new stadiums and facilities to try and compete with the big guys. Your Baylors, TCUs, Techs, ISUs, etc...talk about a colossal waste of money and energy. Spend hundreds of millions on this stuff only to become a AA team , while the powerhouses get their AAA status upheld.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · August 29, 2014

TFLF,

I don't always see eye-to-eye with your views,

What's not to like about my anti-gun, pro-life, anti-Big Business, pro-current tax system, anti-death penalty, pro-campaign finance reform, anti-Ivy League politician, pro-term limits, anti-Confederate Flag, pro-oil and gas well drilling, anti-local open ended municipal bonds, pro-food and drug regulation views?