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If one thing is assured of getting -1's, it's complaining about them.

You know if everyone could respond with a similar response ( agree to disagree) this place could be a lot more pleasant , +1 for you My opinion : Tony has never been a dominant offensive player. I think when people see all his talent & accolades , they assume he's Lebron James like. He's more of a Dennis Rodman type. He is still on the nation's leader board in blocks & rebounds per game The kid plays under a microscope. He's never claimed to be a lottery pick or said " I'm the greatest ". Those comments are all brought on by other people who do not see him on a regular basis. Every interview I've ever seen him do he's always been really humble & has talked highly of UNT. I hope he stays another year to work on his game , he needs it IMO

He seems to have things to say, but I just can't understand what he really means because I don't have a decoder ring.

After the Benford-Brady controversy in Jonesboro, Brady will be looking to really embarrass us Thursday night. He will show just what a classy guy he really is (sarcasm).

The"no opposing opinion allowed" while you constantly slam people for having an opposing opinion is kinda silly, don't ya think?

How long did that thought last? Until tipoff?

That one hurt...never seemed to get anything going for any extended period. Was thinking UNT might pick up the road win...that thought didn't last too long. Ouch!

USA 69 NT 57 Final

Nice. Chris Jones is warming up. Good to have him back.

Man, I would loooooove to recruit against us right about now. "Son, before you go signing with North Texas I want you to consider something. They had an NBA caliber kid there and, when their team tanked with a new coach, the fans blamed THE KID for the bad season. Do you really wanna be a part of that?"

UNT Tennis, ranked #57, topped #30 Arizona for a great win in Denton today by a score of 4-3. Taking the doubles point proved to be big and the match was tied 3-3 awaiting conclusion of the final contest. UNT freshman Agustina Valenzuela, who uses a two-handed forehand and backhand, came back to win the 3rd set (6-4, 5-7, 7-5) to clinch the victory. Lots of pressure for a freshman to lose the second set, but come back to win it with everything riding on her racket. Next up for UNT Tennis: #28 TCU at Denton at 2:00 on Wednesday. It should be another great match--see you there! GO MEAN GREEN!

Seriously.I laugh so hard everytime we play there

I didn't even have a beer. Six bucks for a 12oz can of Miller Lite is indeed too inflated, but the fact that it was an option, in the seats, during the game, was nice. One nice thing they had, for the velvet rope crowd, was a club level for basketball. Obviously, I didn't even try to go in there, but you could see it across the arena, people milling about in there. I looked at their website, and I think it's a $1,000 donation plus seats to get in there. Overall, the child and I found the entirety of the production, from the character of the PA announcer, to the quality of cheerleaders and dancers (dude..just..dude), to the striped overall student cheer section tossing out insults "Hey! You're bad at basketball!" to absolutely pale in comparison to what we've got in Denton. Bottom line, $78 million to get 1,300 people in attendance? Where's the ROI on that? Regarding the teams, I noticed that the players on both sides looked small, tiny in fact, and slow compared to the players for North Texas. Neither of these teams should be playing in the same division. But they are, and they would probably both beat UNT right now. What I saw among these small, slow players what acute awareness of where their teammates were, what the plays where, and obvious evidence of practice to execute.

Kram, I do agree that sometimes people are negative too much on this board. I don't think you realize though that through all the jokes, sarcasm, pictures, etc. there is a lot of truth behind the bitching and griping. I have been following NT since 1995 and a lot of issues we have with the AD today are the exact issues we had back then. Don't you think that always blowing sunshine up peoples arses and only looking at the positives is really detrimental to the program? If the promotions dept sux then the truth to the matter is the promotions dept sux and ignoring it doesn't help a thing. Overall, having a glass half empty approach isn't the answer but having a glass completely full isn't either.

I was surprised at the complaining myself. But then I realized that SOME PEOPLE just like to be negative. These kids are trying and some of us can't help but blame them for every little thing. Sad really. Bitch less....GIVE MORE

I didn't want to believe it at first. Oh Green_dude...

We're not happy with a top 3rd national FT%... but we'll brag about being in the top 3 of Scumbelt attendance? .....

Folks complaining about free throw shooting need to understand that this is not the NBA. A 72% free throw shooting team in the NCAA is a very good free throw shooting team. A 72% free throw shooting team in the NBA is a poor free throw shooting team. UNT's free throw shooting is ahead of the likes of UCLA, Gonzaga & MI St, to name a few. Free throw shooting is not the problem. Carry on.

Really feels familiar at times...

Well, that counts for something. I like beer. Let's have beer at Apogee and the Super Pit! Beer drinkers will pay inflated prices for beer at sporting events. So, more concession dollars for UNT. Bring it on! And...btw...no velvet ropes for a beer or two before UNT BB games...just join the Mean Green Club at a very reasonable level and BINGO! Or, just get flyonthewall to bring you in as a guest. No velvet ropes required.

Point proven once again. Who made you Emmitt's keeper? Seems he does a pretty good job for himself. Again, you are a very sad human being. I feel sorry for you and anyone who has to put up with your childishness on a regular basis. You need professional help. My "attacks" as you so inanely call them, came only in response to Emmitt's personal attacks. Fact Jack! Find one were I used any inappropriate language...find it. I can find plenty where both you and Emmitt have. Please go find someone else upon which to spew your constant venom. And get some help.

I don't understand what you mean by what was just posted. So much beating around a bush.

Nope..the experts know who they are. You don't know? Oh, sure you do. They like to tell us about their BB greatness pretty much on a daily basis. And, no differing opinion dare be allowed...with all that greatness why would anyone dare to share a different opinion? If one dares do so, they seem to have no other option than to "go personal". Seems to me that college grads would have a more extensive vocabulary, and have appropriate options with which to express themselves. Odd.

It's actually top 3rd in the country.

Well, we shot like 90% from the line the other game. I guess since we're about 72% for the year we were due to hit 50%.

Oh, sure...this gets the -1. Thanks. Filthy and childish language is OK with you, huh? Personal attacks, just fine as well...but respond in perfect able language and you hide behind keyboard and give me a -1. Priceless...care to PM me with your name? Probably not...

Thank you NTO3. It's sports and how boring it would be if we agree here on everything.

Agree , but it's something to build on. Right ? Just think about it , we could hang our hat on winning a post season game for the next 20 years

Just keep the negatives on an even number and they turn to positives...

In all likelihood, I'll be bringing my children . . . ages 10, 10, and 6 . . . and I expect that our family outing will be every bit as good as those who go neighborhood trick-or-treating.

What happened to the ladies? 6 weeks ago I thought we were beaming about them?

If any game ever screamed for a post-game concert, this is it. Make it happen.

How many leads have the girls blown this year? Seems like every single one

I think by your standard that, yes, you have an accurate assessment of who his "fans" are. It turns my stomach to even acknowledge anyone as a fan of this nobody though. My beef is with UNT90's attempt to mix gun control rhetoric (and the ridiculous thought that Dorner is indicative of the dangers of armed law enforcement at large) along with allusions to the "far left" lunatics. It was a blatant attempt to paint the entire left into a corner with the actions (words?) of a select few.

You might try Google, or reading the news every once in a while. There have been groups on Facebook devoted to cheering for Dorner; and yes, they are lefties. Marc Lamont Hill of the Huffington Post referred to Dorner as a "real life superhero to many people." Chris Matthew opposed denouncing the actions of Dorner because, according to him, "It's not that simple. This man may have a real complaint."

Uh . . . where have you been? Yes, numerous people (though probably a very small percentage) on the far left have made a hero out of this guy.

The athletic department billed this squad as "the most talented North Texas team in history". The AD brought in this coach. I was sold tickets to watch said "best in NT history" squad. Benford has been a complete and utter disaster. Breach of contract? False advertising? Can I recoup for mental anguish?

It wasn't me that said it might not be on 10/31...go ask the guy who posted it...quote his post and maybe he can fill you in. Or, do us another long list of what you think is wrong with everything that is UNT these days. That's always good for a laugh.

Go look at the posts about this game. Tell me that the majority are pretty much true to form. Glass half full vs half empty folks....those that try to see the possibilities for positives vs those that always seem to find the negative in everything first. Runs about the same with a few exceptions in pretty much every discussion of anything. I guess we all pretty much respond as we see life in general...human nature being what it is and all that. Here's the facts...game is going to be played on Oct. 31st. Come...don't come...your choice. If you don't...why not try to get your tickets into the hands of someone who can come? Make it your goal to "replace yourself". My guess...this was the league's doing since it is a national TV game. For me, I am grateful for the national exposure for UNT.

ESPN says t.j Taylor is playing?

Nothing short of a sweet 16 appearance would save this season and NT has less chance to do that than I have winning power ball.

Ok, let me sum up your entire post. "Son, do you really want to go to a school whose fans react like every other fan base in America when their teams underperform? They have the audacity to complain on a fan message board. Better just quit basketball to avoid ever seeing that."

NT gave him a second chance? Don't you realize that about every school in the country would have signed Tony if able. Lets get to all those excuses you cite. Do you think Benford's coaching debate has been anything other than a disaster? I like everyone hopes he turns it around, but if there has been a worst coaching performance than he has this year, I've not seen it. If Mitchell was not here, the team should still be a lot better than it has been. Out of position, sure he is. That is a factor, but not a big excuse. I agree he should be performing better, but I give the Belt a lot more credit than you do. Any team can stop one player the majority of the time. Missing classes, if this is the case; then he is definitely responsible. However, it is hardly a big offense for college athletes and if his punishment is only missing a few minutes of the game, the administration does not think it is a big deal ether. If you don't think Tony's is a big factor in Franklin's stats than there is no use in going any further on that topic. Franklin's hustle and skill are to be applauded. Motor doesn't run hard? It didn't run any harder last year, and he was the best player in the Belt. Mitchell's demeanor leads to lots of criticism, but I see more frustration than I do lack of effort. I hate to have added to all those excuses for Mitchell. I am not into hammering any NT athlete. The truth is everyone is very disappointed in the team, coaches, and Tony this year. If you remove all the hype about Mitchell and just look at this year, he is a 13 pt 8 rb guy who terrorises the opponents inside. On that basis, he is very solid player and no matter what happens this year, he has probably provided more publicity to NT than any athlete in history other than Joe Greene.

Lets just sing and sit around the camp fire and tell stories about how great other programs are. Because this program is completely irrelevant to everyone, except all 1000 of us

Don't you know that valid criticism on an open forum about people who perform a very public job is not accepted at UNT! You need to only talk to the AD if you have a problem, sir! We don't need anyone else noticing that we have a terrible record with the "most talented team in UNT history." Just be really quiet and no one, not media or recruits, will notice the suck that this program is transforming into. Just get on your phone and call people who don't care what you have to say. That's the way we handle things at UNT. All 1000 of us. Expect more -------------->. Give accordingly

I feel the best thing for UNT basketball is for Tony Mitchell to move on. He's a good kid and a good player...but I'd happily take a player like Odufua, Franklin, Calvin Watson, etc. They work their tails off, give it 100% and aren't lazy and I don't remember seeing them whine. I wish nothing but the best for Tony in his future career...basketball or not.

How many minutes do you think George Odufuwa and Alonzo Edwards will play?

So now I'm responsible for what their family thinks of them? Homosexual "family" violence is far more prevelant than homosexuals being assualted because of their sexuality. But keep on pointing out the exceptions and ignoring the rules.

You know who won't be invited to any Halloween parties?