Sun Belt On The Move !

MeanGreen61 · September 25, 2005

Latest conference rankings from Sagarin

CONFERENCE

1 BIG TEN (A)

2 ATLANTIC COAST (A)

3 PAC-10 (A)

4 SOUTHEASTERN (A)

5 BIG 12 (A)

6 MOUNTAIN WEST (A)

7 BIG EAST (A)

8 CONFERENCE USA (A)

9 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A)

10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A)

11 MID-AMERICAN (A)

12 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)

13 BIG SKY (AA)

14 SOUTHLAND (AA)

15 GATEWAY (AA)

16 SOUTHERN (AA)

17 GREAT WEST (AA)

18 SUN BELT (A)

KingDL1 · September 25, 2005

Lovely so our conference would be ranked 7th in 1AA. And the Belt is the only 1A conference to be ranked lower than any 1AA.

Well that renews my confidence in us wining the Belt again.

mhow2 · September 25, 2005

Latest conference rankings from Sagarin

CONFERENCE
1 BIG TEN (A)
2 ATLANTIC COAST (A)
3 PAC-10 (A)
4 SOUTHEASTERN (A)
5 BIG 12 (A)
6 MOUNTAIN WEST (A)
7 BIG EAST (A)
8 CONFERENCE USA (A)
9 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A)
10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A)
11 MID-AMERICAN (A)
12 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)
13 BIG SKY (AA)
14 SOUTHLAND (AA)
15 GATEWAY (AA)
16 SOUTHERN (AA)
17 GREAT WEST (AA)
18 SUN BELT (A)
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got to be kidding me. 1aa conf ahead of 1a conf. this should be proof to all of the apologist out there. We must win OOC games.

untbowler · September 25, 2005

got to be kidding me. 1aa conf ahead of 1a conf. this should be proof to all of the apologist out there. We must win OOC games.
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Don't count on it, we could go 0-10 and 0-10 and they will say we are just young still.

KingDL1 · September 25, 2005

Looking at this again I would think UNT was in the Instrcutional Confererence for D1A Football.

I-Conference

Be easy on us we are trying to learn

eulesseagle · September 25, 2005

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc0405.htm

eulesseagle · September 25, 2005

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc05.htm

this is the football poll

sorry the other was the basketball

Arkstfan · September 25, 2005

I gave up on Sagarin once I saw how highly I-AA's can be ranked because their schedules don't interlock much with I-A.

Right now Sagarin sez UL Lafayette ought to be a 7 point favorite at home over NW State. The Cajuns beat them by 21 and botched several scoring chances.

Oklahoma State would be an 18 point favorite at home over Arkansas State.

ASU a 38 point favorite against Tenn-Martin at home, a game ASU won by 49 and could have easily score at least two more TD's if not three by leaving the starters in and could have netted a shut out if not for playing the 2nd and 3rd team defense guys.

Sorry I can't give it much weight.

GMoney · September 25, 2005

I don't give it much weight if they have the Big 10 as the best conference. Ahead of the ACC and Pac-10? No way, not this year.

Buford_Julep · September 25, 2005

I believe many top 1-AA programs are are better than the Sun Belt.

A Division I player can transfer to 1-AA without having to set out a year, and most of the best transfers do choose this route. Many of those transfers were top ranked players out high school who never gave Sun Belt schools any consideration while they were in high school. They sign with a BCS school and things go wrong and they don't get enough playing time so they sign with a 1-AA school where they can play without setting out a year.

I am not going to take the time to research this, but if memory serves correctly the Florida Atlantic team that beat NT last fall had more than a few Seniors that began their careers with Florida, Florida St and Miami.

Remember MTSU's first 1-A Sun Belt team? That first team was far stronger than any they have had since. I remember reading it was loaded with BCS transfers.

Former Denton Ryan stars "Weasel" Battle and Calcius Smith transferred to SFA, not North Texas. According to my memory, SFA has about 12 1-A transfers.

Sam Houston St is always loaded with BCS QB transfers that would not dream of coming to North Texas.

The NCAA needs rules to prevent players from transferring easily from school to school. I agree with that. However, I feel there should be an amendment that allows BCS players to transfer to non-BCS !-A schools without having to set out a year. The non-BCS 1-A teams have to spend big bucks to get to that point. They deserve to be put on an even level with the 1-AA's.

Arkstfan · September 25, 2005

Sure there are I-AA's better than I-A, it's always been that way. There are always Division II schools better than many I-AA, and there have always been Division III schools better than some Division II.

My parent's high school came out of the smallest classification in the state to beat the state's then largest school for the state basketball title.

My complaint is that Sagarin's rankings don't reflect true power because there is not enough overlap to measure schools.

Last season Harvard was rated #37 in the nation after going undefeated. They defeated one team that made the I-AA playoffs (a first round loser) and one team that had played a I-A school (lost to Navy). I just don't believe non-scholarship Harvard could have stayed on the field with 75th ranked Memphis or 102nd ranked UNT last year.