ODU Not Paying Stipends

[forevereagle]

Nope.  That's just passing the buck ... You know ... "Let someone else do it", rather than those who advocate for these stipends manning up and paying for them.

So you don't want those who are directly and most obviously profiteering on the backs of the athletes to be the ones to pay for it? That would be like the NFL asking communities to pay for stadiums that they use and profit from at little to no cost to themselves while they get to keep all the revenues generated. 

[Censored by Laurie]

So you don't want those who are directly and most obviously profiteering on the backs of the athletes to be the ones to pay for it? That would be like the NFL asking communities to pay for stadiums that they use and profit from at little to no cost to themselves while they get to keep all the revenues generated. 

ridiculous. that'll never happen. 

[Aldo]

For those against, I think too much blame is being put on the athlete.

The P5 is using it as a recruiting advantage, plain and simple. It's a way to further distance themselves from the G5. A more elite establishment. If a G5 ever wants to make it into the P5, they need to keep up and prove that they can spend the money necessary to keep up.

It's a business decision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_bowl_games <-- Look at the amount of "sponsorship" and the tiers (AllState versus Autonation)

So do you want to be "entitled" to make it to the big money payout bowls and make revenue for your institution? Then get a recruiting advantage.

Essence of the game be damned, that was taken advantage of ages ago.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/20/5827802/ncaa-player-jerseys-numbers-mark-emmert-obannon

It's a complex organism that all facets from the NCAA to the player are monetized.

[Arkstfan]

Publicity, exposure, and name recognition are all nice, but they aren't themselves revenue.

They better count for something otherwise the 1000+ four year schools engaging in athletics that aren't in the 10-20 making a profit need to rethink their spending.

I think you have to look at the big picture.

There was a guy in Sherwood, Arkansas who had a pretty good Cajun restaurant. Food was great, sevice sucked, and nothing ruined a nice night out worse than him stopping by the table to whine.

He once went on rant about the various taxes and fees he had to pay to have a business and he could be profitable but for the taxes and fees.

Well he could have been profitable if the owner of the building lowered the rent or let him use the place for free. If his suppliers charged less or gave him his sacks of rice and shrimp for free, he would have made money hand over fist. If people came in and volunteered to cook, bus tables, wash dishes, and take orders for free he would have made big bucks.

This is reality. You don't "lose" money on softball or volleyball.

NCAA rules say that if you want to play FBS football you must sponsor 16 sports and award at least 200 rides. None revenue sports are a cost of FBS football just the same as buying helmets and pads.

The law says if you offer educational opportunities, you must offer them to women as well. Sponsoring enough women's sports to play FBS football is part of the cost of football.

The NCAA recently lost a lawsuit (it is pending appeal) where the judge ruled that the NCAA cannot conspire to pay students anything less than full cost of attendance. If a school chooses to not offer it, that is the business of the school but the NCAA is barred from preventing schools from paying full cost. Does not matter whether you think it is fair for players to have spending money, the bottom line is the NCAA can't prevent it and if schools choose to do so, anyone they compete against for talent is at a disadvantage. If the Texas schools in CUSA opted to not pay that is fine, If UT does it, that's not going to hurt UNT, but if Texas State, Houston, and SMU opt to pay, then you either pay or live with the disadvantage. FCOA is a cost of business like paying the electric bill or the rent.

[FirefightnRick]

 

There was a guy in Sherwood, Arkansas who had a pretty good Cajun restaurant. Food was great, sevice sucked, and nothing ruined a nice night out worse than him stopping by the table to whine.

 

 

You sure that was a Pizza chain instead?

 

Rick