John, I am glad I've had the chance to meet you and hear your opinions in person. It's a little bit more to say than what most people here can claim. So I'd like to say to the others in your defense, because IMO this is getting overblown: People, Tasty is not a Dodge hater. I think what he's trying to do here is provide some level perspective in relation to Dickey ball. As much as ya'll hated Dickey and think Dodge is football Jesus, Tasty here wants all of you all to treat them the same. Stop denying that Dodge pulled the reigns on this game, because he clearly did. Calling Dodge out does not mean you hate him, it just means you can see the big picture. I digress... For some reason, we had TTech's number for years. Not just once, but several times. We beat Baylor, we won a few conference titles and then everyone put up with Dickey's mouth. Then a critical class of kids graduated and everything went downhill. Baylor got the best of us, Tulsa put a whipping like no other, etc... It just seemed like the wind got knocked out a what was already a very thin situation. Vito has a new blog up, defending Dodge's decision. I can sympathize with all sides here: the "we played better with less" people, vs. the "this is a building process" I'm not sure how the situations compare, but Jim Harbaugh was hired at the same time and got 4 wins last year at Stanford (SJSU, USC, Arizona, Cal) and is now 1-0 after week 1's victory over Oregon State. And in case you didn't notice, UCLA first year coach Rick Neuheisal - along with you.might.know.him. Norm Chow - just took down the Vols for a 1-0 Bruins coaching record. Just my opinion, but it is getting harder and harder to stand on the "they need at least 3 years" leg. There's definitely value in having your recruits grow into the two deep and knowing the system, but it's becoming deflated in today's college football market. All I can say is Todge needs to start getting the Ws, and hope they keep coming as long as he is here (thanks MeanMag). EDIT: by the beard of Zeus, I have cracked 3K. Somebody get me a couple dogs and an alligator egg. Surely I'm not that boring.