Anonymous has every right to respond to Derrick, and seems to be very articulate. But it strikes me how much misinformation is still out there. Several things I hope you current students take to heart when discussing the vote in casual conversation/debate: Don't claim this will guarantee a better football team. That is not the point. It is part of the bigger picture: a committment to athletics and alumni interaction. A point where Anonymous is misinformed: There is proof - yes, studies have been done - that link athletic funding and commitment to educational value. Most people will understand that athletics, specifically football, are the biggest window to a university. It's also important to reiterate that this is not diverting academic funding, but increasing potential alumni interaction. Want to know why we are so freakin' huge? Why we are so successful and respected in liberal arts? It is because we offer competitive degrees at an affordable price. Why didn't UNT Music Major XX go to Julliard? Tuition! And UNT can afford better rates because we depend so heavily on state funds and public *cough*fans*cough* donations. It's not hard. If I had the opportunity to get a music degree at the level of Eastman, via UNT prices that included a 300 fee for athletics to help fund, I would say it is a steal. I find it ironic that the same people who agree that UNT Liberal Arts is such a great deal cannot understand why UNT needs to keep in touch with its alumni so badly. And how about our endowment? We trail nearly every school I can think of in that area, which can be linked directly to athletics/alumni interaction. How the hell can we be at such a sad number when we have 3,935,206,167 (I counted) students pumped into the economy!?! It's because we have given our students nothing to take ownership in when they are here that hey take with them and hold onto when they have finished. I do question - and worry - when people play the "pride" card. Bill Naysayer is going to get defensive, because you're damn right he is proud of himself and his degree. The important thing is that these people see the big picture. That UNT needs athletics and needs its students to embrace it as an enhancement to their public perception, alumni interaction, and longevity. This isn't about competing with UT on the football field. This is about competing with Texas States, Houstons, and Texas Techs for more students and long-term academic support. I am pleading every current student who has an opportunity, and those who don't to create opportunity, to get the right information out there. It is not the people that are fervently against this I am worried about: it is the misinformed. Derrick, thanks for your efforts. (Hope this post was okay and doesn't get deleted?)