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TodgeRodge (CheckFacts) brings me back to the days of LOYALFAN on gmg.com. These posters have become the best rolls of all time on gmg.com. You all would do yourself a favor and realize that this poster just happens to post ALWAYS about topics that will get lots of looks and replies. BTW, nice troll on the SMU/UNT/SWC case. I always love reading the "SMU didn't have anything to do with us not getting into the SWC or CUSA argument" because Hayden Fry said so in his book. I mean there is just no way that Hayden Fry would protect any of his friends from SMU by saying this, right? He did coach there for a long time before North Texas called him to Denton. Seriously, just ignore almost every SMU fan who knowingly brings up the fact that they blackballed us twice and will continue to do so in the future. Man, you are a good fisherman--even I got hooked knowing that your bait was just sitting there waiting to be bitten. For everyone else reading this, don't get hooked. IGNORE THIS TROLL!!

UNT getting into either the MWC or CUSA within the next 5 years would be almost miraculous. The MWC could very well be content with 10. If they add, they will have several schools interested that I believe would fit their needs very well, like UTEP, UH, us, SMU, Utah State, and San Jose State. It would just depend on who wanted to go that direction and if those MWC schools want new members to split their TV deal with over the next 5 years. To me, the MWC will do like the Big XII - II and stay at 10 to keep more TV money. CUSA, with the private schools voting together and the fact that the Eastern publics don't seem too interested in getting another Texas school in the mix, UNT just doesnt seem like a logical match under these circumstances. I would bet that MUTS or FAU would fit in well with CUSA expansion needs if ECU or UCF got picked off, although I doubt that will happen in the next five years, since the Big Ten just announced that they are holding strong at the moment with 12 teams, meaning that no Big East teams are being targeted in the near future for a new conference. I know it bums people out here (me too) but I really do believe that UNT will be in the SBC for a long time in the future. I think that the bad news is that one of the eastern SBC teams will leave, but I do believe that the good news is that NMSU and La Tech will join the SBC over the next 5 years.

This post is the winner. Those years were defined by our domination of the Belt and going to the NO Bowl. All of those were great, especially considering how pitiful we were before and after this stretch. But most people looked at that time as this was the best we could do with our facilities and our salary restraints for coaches. We played in a toilet of a stadium and really never showed much in OOC games, with the exception of a few. If we had beaten TCU or Arizona or Air Force, it would have gotten some more attention here. But we lost to South Florida twice and Florida Atlantic OOC during our bowl run, so that always clouded things for most fans and media.

I have been to the last three games and I think the attendance figures have all been low in the box score. First off, I felt like we had more than 7100 at the Tech game. I assumed that we had around 8000 while I was looking around. I think the Rice game was probably closer to 4000 and the UTA game looked a little less crowded than the Rice game, but by about 200 fans or so. Really frustrating to see these numbers being announced. We are like the opposite of SMU Football Attendance counters!!

1.) The MWC will continue to be MUCH BETTER in football and men's hoops than CUSA for a looooonnnnngggg time. 2.) We will never be in a conference with SMU. They wield too much power because of their allinace with the other private schools and they aren't going to give us a hand to move up when it would really hurt them. 3.) If the MWC adds Hawaii (as expected) that gives them 10. They may be content with 10. If they want in the Texas market, which I believe they still would like to be, the question will be which two of these markets do they want to add--Houston, Dallas, and El Paso. 4.) The Big XII - II will never have another Texas team in it as long as Texas or A&M are in it. TCU's AD said as much yesterday on the Ticket during an interview with The Hardline. His exact words were, "We bring a new TV market to the Big East. We are never going to be able to do that with the Big XII. That is why the Pac-10 wanted the Texas market so badly, because it is now all about the TV markets and what they bring to the conference."

Speaking of this, last night as we were leaving the parking lot by Fouts, on the pressbox side, I started driving on the access road toward Bonnie Brae. I looked as I was driving toward the intersection and see this guy walking by himself in what looked like a suit in front of the stadium by the intramural fields. I'll be damned if it wasn't Chico. I thought to myself, that doesn't seem like a smart thing to do at all, walking along side the access road by yourself in that area at that time of the night. Very strange...

Guys, I will guarantee you that Rice would beat almost every SBC team right now. They have some good dribble and drive guards and they can shoot from the outside. Braun is a very good coach and he would coach circles around many of the SBC coaches. This win may not look that great at the end of the year because of Rice's record in their conference, which isn't great either, but is apparently LIGHT YEARS ahead of the SBC this year, but it would continue to help us gain momentum to that big 20 win streak. I will say this, especially now that the team is getting some attention, this will help out big for an NIT bid if we don't win the SBC Tournament. Our record and the attendance will at least get us some recognition there. I want us to go to the NCAAs and think we ahve a great chance, but a win against teams like Tech and Rice will at least help us to hedge our best if we don't get back to the NCAA Tournament. And, at this point, the only way the SBC could even conceive of getting two bids is if UNT and WKU basically only lose 3-4 games each. Even that may not do it because this league is so bad right now. It really amazes me at how fast and far the decline has been for the SBC over the last 2 years.

Actually, I think a lot of players tend to remain stagnant or even regress as sophomores because they think they have it all down from playing one year of college hoops. Usually, the sophomore to junior jump is the biggest because of a lot of factors: maturity, understanding roles better, continuing to refine your game, and having to fight for PT if the incoming freshman have something. Holmen, though, is a huge disappointment. He has size and athleticism, but his thought process during offensive sets is clearly lacking. My guess is that he will either get it in the off-season and the lights will coem on or he will get buried on the depth chart next year and beyond. There is no doubt, though, that if he continues to play like this that it will hurt this team, just because of the depth issues.

McCarney would be just fine here. He has built a program up from nothing, got fired at Iowa State for having a losing year after all those bowl games, and he will be a huge benefit for our lines, both in coaching and recruiting. He would be a great hire.

Yes, and it was MUCH WORSE. Back in the late 70s and early 80s, Kansas State actually gave up their home games in Manhattan to play Oklhoma in Norman. I believe that KSU played OU like 6 or 8 straight years in Norman. That isn't just shameful, its pathetic.

Spelling Smack is the best you can do to bring negativity over to the one sport at UNT that has done anything positive in the last 5 years? I have asked you before, but I will ask again--why do you love the Mean Green? I have never seen a post from LoveMG that is positive ever. Not sayin', just sayin'.

Wow this thread has a lot of topics to comment on. 1.) If Steve Kragthorpe was chosen as our HFC, it would be a GREAT HIRE. If any of you are still having hurt feelings about some comments made by Steve Kragthorpe in 1998 regarding his lack of interest in becoming HFC at UNT, please understand a few things. First off, Craig Helwig was the AD and had just fired the guy who orignally brought Kragthorpe to UNT. Secondly, the Chancellor of the university was Al Hurley. SK had seen for two years how this university viewed athletics from the administrative level and how the AD was run from a guy who just whored us out to anyone who would pay us a huge payout in non-conference, both in football and in hoops. Third, we played at Fouts Field. There was no thought of building a new stadium at any point then, either. Fourth, he made more money at Texas A&M and got more name recognition for being an OC there than he would get as HFC at UNT. Today, all fo the reasons that Kragthorpe showed zero interest in UNT are GONE!!! Yes, the Louisville thing went bad, but the Tulsa thing went beyond good. What he did a Tulsa is twice as impressive as anything June Jones has done at SMU. As a matter of fact, it is on par with the job Franchione did at TCU. This job, now, is way more on par with Tulsa than Louisville. HE has proven he can build up a winner from a place that was historically a loser. 2.)I don't doubt for a second that Leach would cause a huge stir here or anywhere he gets hired. His ego isn't going to allow him to go a non-AQ league right now, though. Maybe in a few years, especially if he can't another HFC job, but not now. Although he built them up to unparalled successs, Tech has so many more built-in advantages over UNT, that it really is just apples to oranges. First off, we love it here when we get a known Texas team to play us, especially here in Denton. Imagine, just for a second, how awesome it would be to get annual visits from ALL of the known Texas/Oklahoma schools EVERY YEAR. That is what the SWC and Big XII gifted Tech with--and it was all because the Aggies and Longhorns have taken very good care of them. They have an entire region to themselves, while we share our area with about 900 different competing interests. What I am saying is that Leach did great out there, but he knew what advantages were there to work with when he went there. He cares about himself first and that will never change. There are only a few jobs out there that can feed an ego and a wallet that Leach has.

This has no chance of happening. SMU folks want nothing to do with us, plus the MWC will look at multiple markets--say Dallas and Houston or El Paso. Our chances to move to CUSA hinge deeply on SMU leaving. If that happens, we will get an invite very quickly. Some folks may not want ot join CUSA if it doesn't have SMU, UH, or UTEP, but it would be a step-up on the conference front still in a big way.

This is what I think about Troy going forward. They have followed our path in SBC play. First dominating, then it starts to decline when the other programs get rolling. Watch out for FIU. That team is going to be your next Belt heavyweight going forward. Cristobal is a great young coach and he has credibility with Miami recruiting. But, I do believe that Troy will drop significantly over the next few years. It won't be as far as we dropped, but it will be a drop. And, I still think MUTS will be a big player at the top of the SBC, too. I think that Stockstill is a good coach and this year just had too many hurdles for them. I can't see them regressing from this year. It just illustrates how important it will be to get a great coach here in the next few weeks.

I didnt get a chance to see if any of the DFW TV Stations had anything on the game last night against KU. I assume that since they were ranked that it might have registered on someone's radar, but then again, it involved UNT, so maybe not.

I will tell you that nothing compares to watching a game at Allen Fieldhouse. It literally is a walk back in time. And that old barn is so loud that it can just be deafening on an opponent that isnt used to playing there. Two things do stand out to me. One is that UNT usually makes its threes. Assuming that they even make just three 3s, that probably helps to keep the game closer for sure. The other thing is that KU will beat many other teams by this margin at AFH, too, especially when Josh Selby gets into their rotation. They have a chance to be what they usually are--one of the best teams in the country. All that will come from this game for UNT is experience at a hostile environment that will help in SBC play--and a nice paycheck, too!!

You got any ideas on how to make that happen? Especially when there isnt one other Texas school that wants to be in a conference with us. How do you do it, DD?

What will be really funny is when we tell SMU and TCU that we already have our Metroplex rivalry with UTA scheduled every year and this is between two teams that actually are vying for an NCAA Tournament berth. I doubt any SMU fan of the last 20 years even knows about that little postseason tournament. And, TCU really should be better than they are as a program with the league they play in and their location, so I don't really see any agvantage for us to help them out!! How is that for turning the tables on these two?!!

With the Belo Corp owning both the DMN and the DRC, they let all UNT coverage come from the local source, which makes sense. What doesn't make sense at all is that the DMN doesn't have any coverage of UNT other than a bit piece from Vito every once in a while. In reality, most of alumni live in the Metroplex somewhere. The DMN at least can use the DRC as an excuse--what does the Star-Telegram have as an excuse? Or how about all of the Tv stations and their sports departments? The issue here is that the DFW Media all think this way--if you weren't from the SWC, you just don't matter. Even then, the only teams that really get attention are the Big XII South schools.

I hate this line of thinking. College basketball barely registered on the sports map back in the 70s until Magic and Bird played each other. Even then, it wasn't a stop down for most sports fans. But then the NCAA Tournament and the Final Four really hit their groove in the early 80s and has grown exponentially since then. Unlike college football, which has been popular for decades, but has really hurt itself in public perception with the BCS BS, the NCAA Basketball Tournament affords schools like ours to not only particpate, but to truly have the chance to make a big run all the way to a championship. If we were smart with our athletic resources, we would focus on both of these sports at a high level. And for the sake of taking up for basketball, we actually can have a competitive advantage over other schools because we are in Texas and we could put a premium on hoops, which would really separate us from every other school in the state. We may be in Texas, but Houston and UTEP are MUCH more recognized for their basketball successes than football, and neither of those occurred in the last two decades. I guarantee that if we go back to the NCAAs and win a game or two, it would amazing how much attention we would get in Texas for doing something only the Big XII Texas schools have done in the last 15 years. And that attention wouldn't hurt the football program, but it would probably do wonders for recruiting and added support.

Wardly, I want to say two things. First off, thank you for being a great fan of UNT and for your support. I have both agreed and disagreed (probably too strongly) with you on several of your thoughts over time here at GMG.com, but this post is your best ever. I feel like Leavitt will be a fine coach and I wouldn't mind seeing him hired here. But to think he is just purely innocent in all of this just seems naive. Not saying he is purely guilty either, so don't get mad FFR!! But to have some guy come over and shamelessly promote Leavitt as the best hire for our opening and then demean other posters is what bothers most of us. And, I will say this, to add to your point wardly, if the university decides not to stir up this mess with Leavitt because of his lawsuit, I am just fine with that.

Too late...

I actually agree on this. If we beat ULM and K-State, he will have gone 4-1 in his time, with the one loss being a close game to Troy, who, talent-wise, is the best of the SBC and has been for a long time. If we were to beat Kansas State, who will be playing in a bowl game and will most likely be 7-4 coming into our game and ranked, would be as big as any we have had at this school in 30 years. Coaching this group up, after all of the injuries, and closing out the glorious day of playing our last game in a toilet by beating a ranked Big XII team would almost automatically put him in as HFC next year. That said, I still believe that we will lose to K-State and that even with a win over ULM, he will not be the choice for our next head coach. I still see the strong possibility that Leavitt will be get the HFC position and that Chico will be his Assistant Head Coach with a BIG RAISE. Maybe I am wrong, but I think that its a very strong possibility.

You would be an awesome Tech fan--probably alum of the year. I could even see you yelling out GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RRRAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEERRRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!

The other thing that stood out to me that we were able to survive was the two posessions under a minute to go where Johnson tried to score to give us the lead and failed miserably. We were very fortunate that Singletary missed that last free throw to give Josh the ball in his hands to drive and score the tying bucket before OT. Either Josh or Tristan needs to be shooting the ball in those situations, IMO.