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Is Clayton being thrown into the firing squad just because of no previous college coaching experience? Look at what he has done since coming to NT. He has recruited: Lance Dunbar, John Shorter (who committed to TCU and came here because of Coach George), William Cole, Draylen Cook, AK, James Hamilton and new signee Javia Hall. He has others already committed for next year. In addition, he has coached his position players quite well. Fitzgerald to his record breaking year, Darrius Carey (maybe SBC Freshman of the Year) and Jamal Jackson has had a solid first year. He also teaches them how to run great routes and read defenses, contrary to what some might believe. And most of all, the players respect him. He might be one of our best on the staff. Just some thoughts.

Sorry, idiot!!

Emmitt your an idot!!

I would hope UNT fans don't need the university to humor them. Considering UNT only could scrape together $265K to pay Dodge, and you'd have to pay him and his staff so much in severence, what kind of coaching budget are you going to have for the new guy? $200K? Tops? Who exactly is that going to bring in? an FCS coach? A no-name sunbelt assistant? (Don't delude yourselves into thinking you can contribute money and that will make up a coaching salary. 1# UNT alums apparently can't even contribute to fund a stadium they have reportedly wanted for 30 years. 2# If this administration gets money, it is going to the stadium. As it should.) You won't get a name. No one UNT can afford will recruit here better than Dodge, meaning the talent level will only decrease if you fire Dodge. In other words, UNT would essentially keep their program at the level it is indefinitely in an effort to get petulant alumni to fork over their stadium contributions. That seems to be what isn't being said here. The University seems to acknowledge that the program is building up the talent it needs to win long term under Dodge but is perhaps floating the idea that they might be willing to trade that in an effort to get recalcitrant alumni contributing to the stadium. #Frankly I think the people who do care about UNT are going to give their money anyway. Pissed off as they may be over losing, they love their university too much not to. Those who make excuses will continue to make excuses why not to give. IMO, there is no reason to appease those people --- they aren't going to help you get the stadium built anyway.) So even though this team may very well finish with a better record over the next 3 years than it did over the last 3 with a new coach due to the team now having at least 45 legit FBS players #unlike the 8 or so Dodge inherited), the fans are going to want to fire the new coach in 3 years too when his record is say an astounding 12-24 and we have about 15 legit FBS players left. Talent builds programs. We were god awful last season ---possibly the worst team in FBS --- and Dodge and Co. still added a ton of really good talent this season. That is the sign of a good recruiting staff. I don't need UNT to fire dodge to get my stadium donation. Especially if the guy who replaces him is just there to get stadium donations and has no shot of winning here at all because he can't recruit. I don't need to sit through watching someone's assistant flirt with 500 and get schooled in recruiting for 3 years only so we can start another "5 year rebuilding program" once he exhausts the talent level again. Building a successful program is all about building the talent level. UNT has won 2 games and has been in another 6 games in the fourth quarter with a freshman, sophomore, and junior laden team. Now I am the first to admit the coaching staff has a lot of things they need to improve upon this off-season to make those six losses into wins and get us competing with the top of the Sun Belt, but as just a general guidline smart people don't pull the plug on the program when it is just becoming competitive. For a really bad school, which UNT was, you get your butt kicked by everyone for 1 or even 2 years while you emass and start young talent, then you compete as they start to develop, and finally in year 4 or so you start winning. We were all thinking maybe Todd Dodge was some magic man who could change that constant after the Ball State game, but we were mislead by that MAC school. The Ball State team we beat was the lousy one of this year, not the great one from last year. All year we have been hammering this staff because they aren't a title contender based off that first game. We need to really get some perspective. Brett picked this team to win 3 games. It has won 2 and has a decent chance of possibly winning a 3rd against an injured ASU team that is playing freshmen and has mentally checked out. Regardless of our optimistic opinions, this team is about what Brett thought they'd be. Now by all means if you don't mind possibly losing roommates Riley Dodge and Lance Dunbar, sure, go ahead and blow up the program. Riley I think most emotional folks might be ready to write off, despite the fact that as a redshirt freshman he is the 6th ranked passer in the Sun Belt and the higher rated freshman. 2 of the guys ahead of him will be gone after this season. He's decent already and he will only get better next year. I think the guy has a chance to be a mobile Ty Detemer by time he is a senior. If you fire Dodge, Riley's gone, as is the incoming star QB prospect Hall. Dunbar might stay and he might go. If he stays he will have to earn his PT in a new (probably pro set) offense under a new coach. He'll be running against 8 man fronts (meaning those 60 yard runs we've become accustomed to will often be 8 yard runs) and will probably lose PT to more physical backs like Mosley and Mathis who are better suited to that set. --- would he stay or would he transfer to a higher profile school? Would you stay at UNT in his shoes or go somewhere like Tulsa with a similar scheme/concept but on a bigger stage or a BCS school? Not only would firing Dodge be beyond stupid, it would effectively ground zero the program. The next coach is not going to be as good of a recruiter, so next year will be a lost recruiting year without the stadium, so like Dodge, the new coach will get marginal help his first year. I personally cannot imagine following UNT through another 4 year rebuilding program. The last 3 years have been hard enough. I don't want to go through 4 more (and probably 7 more) years like that. I don't follow San Diego State for this reason. They give their coaches 3 years on what is clearly a 5 year job. UNT is a 5 year job. It has been for years, and will be until 2015 or so when the larger athletic budget becomes useable. It would be an immensely low class move by UNT to use Dodge to get their stadium and then never give him a chance to recruit to it. Especially after he took the job when the program had about 8 FBS players and gave UNT a family discount. I guess it all depends on what crowd you are in. The win at all cost crowd who have their head in the sand thinking UNT is going to win with a coach who can't recruit or the I favor UNT being honorable to Dodge and not treating me like a child to get my stadium donation crowd.

You guys want Dodge gone, how much are you going to give to the program to get a better coach??? June Jones is being paid mostly with private donations. I bet most of you bitching on this board gives less than $1K a year to the program. Also, who will be our QB??

Send your information to the coaching staff. I know that they will give him a look.

NT03 what game where you watching???? # 70 whipped #94 all day long. # 70 acted like he was blocking a sled in practice. 94 is nowhere close to being a NFl player.

The ones worn in the early to mid 60's are the best. I like the shoulder strips. I wish our uni's were closer to old school than the new stuff. I know it is hard to do with the 100's of logo and color changes, but I like the teams that have strips instead of the new markings (like LSU).

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According to DirectTV, ESPNU is not broadcast in HD? Can anyone varify this. You would think all ESPN channels would have a HD feed.

Just wanted to let everyone know that Johnny is doing very well in camp. He has made it through the first round of cuts. He has done well enough that they have him included in a team poll. Go to www.riderville.com and vote for Johnny. They are asking which rookie will make the most impact this season. Go to the site and show our support.

Maybe he decided that he may not be good enough to play college football? According to reports we have upgraded the talent on defense. I know this is speculation, but so is everything being discussed on this thread. The schools he mentioned are known more for their academics than the football programs at this point.

Wonder how many had drug issues?

UNT2012, do we really care if Vizza is pissed?

Does anyone have the old scrappy with the big barrell chest that the athletic department used in the late 70's thur the mid 80's?

OK Fake, who did he recruit? Give me some names.

Do any of you actually know who he was recruiting in Mississippi? What if it is JUCO OL and DL?

What is the purpose of this post????

WHO CARES??? Does it really matter who signals in the plays. This board always has someone that wants to get SH_ _ started. This is a non factor.

Next years schedule is a favorable one for NT. We play Army, Ball State and Ohio. None of the big boys. I believe we play KState in Denton in '10. Our schedules should be better in the coming years. I know that we will play some big boys down the road, but for big money and only one game per year. If we give this thing some time I believe we can get to where we want to be.

I believe that we are getting that figure to play Florida and Georgia in the coming years.

I spoke with an LSU season ticket holder Friday night. He had heard that the game may be moved to the Superdome because of the lack of eletricity in the Baton Rouge area. This was before the talk of IKE. This could be interesting if it moves to Texas Stadium.

I hated see him playing as well, but the kid can play receiver. He was suited up last week as a receiver, warmed up with them and was in all of the receiver sideline meetings. I thought he might play last week. It would have been great for him to get a redshirt. We are not at the level that we can redshirt everyone. That is why we are playing so many freshmen. If we were playing at a higher level, we would have the luxury of redshirting a kid, unless he was a stud. If TD had his preference he would redshirt all freshmen, but at this point in our journey we have to play our best players. You know he would not like to have 2 freshmen starting in the secondary, but they are the best that we have. I believe 52 of our 80 are sophs or freshmen. In a couple of years we might have the luxury to redshirt some of our best recruits. Not at this point. Until we are a top 50 program, expect to play our top recruits. Also, he can still redshirt next year. I do not believe he will, but you have 5 years to play 4. It is bad now, but wait a couple of years. We will be very competitive. We are getting more speed and we now have to start recruiting some big boys.

KState had the perfect stadium for NT. It was very nice to the eye and the site lines were great. I hope that our new stadium is close to that design. It was a great atmoshpere. Also, we will have baseball in the next 5 years.

The FG showed no class. What did it prove? Not many coaches would have kicked a FG with 15 sec. left? He might get his when them come to Denton.