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McCarney? No Dodge, wait Dickey? I give up

I try not to rip on Coordinators too much because when you lose or the gambles don't pay off you take more heat than you should. However, totally agree the gambles on our own end (including whoever thought it a good idea to do a reverse on the kickoff early when we were leading) were not the best judgement.

O'fer is what they deserve.

Pretty much right there with you, but I don't think our recruiting is going well enough for Littrell to maybe survive. Reasoning, whenever you take over a historically downtrodden program. You better start off on fire recruiting (See Western Michigan for recent example). That gets peoples attention that something is different and it snowballs. Otherwise, after two to three years, people think, same old same old, time to try again with a new coach.

Solid post.

Maybe it was just my take on the game but I felt like we didn't get home on blitzes nearly as well as SMU. As for talent, do you think we have guys that would be beating out their starters? I don't think the talent gap is huge like OU better or anything, I just think they are slightly better at almost every position. Except for Sutton, he is OU level talent. But I don't think he beat us by himself (great thanks for making me sound crazy because he had 4 TD's). Edit: TO further my point about the LB's, SMU had no problem converting 3rd downs. That comes down to not getting home by the front 5-6.

Read through a lot of the posts on here and my thinking is more in the middle (maybe?) The concerns everyone had at the beginning of the year O-Line and LB play are a clear problem. The Oline was getting ripped all day. Fine was getting clobbered and we couldn't run at all. On the flip side when we came after Hicks our LB's did not get to him. He was too comfortable. When he had to move Hicks struggled. Surprising me I thought the D-Line was ok. Fine has clearly improved from last year. His limitations are clear and teams are still able to take advantage of them by swarming him. But he has at least gotten better. If he had a great oline he could be real good, but that is a long way from where we are. Special teams are real bad. We did what typical guy trying to hard to win does and made a lot of silly mistakes that got the game out of hand. SMU has a clear talent advantage across the board. Easiest way to think about it, who on our team would start for their team. Can't think of too many that I would say that about. After two games we look better than last year, but it will take time to cover up the weak spots. However, those weak spots keep this team from being much more than a middle of the pack CUSA team. Too many people on here make excuses for everything. But I guess that is balanced out by some who say everything is awful. We are pretty much what we've always been. Slightly below something good and frustrating to cheer for.

I'm not sure that is right. You might be surprised to find how many people, just on this board were around during those years and give to the program. Because we did win during a lot of those years.

Don't think they are really supposed to say, but I think Vito let it slip in his post over the weekend saying " UNT is adjusting with nose tackle Bryce English out for the first half of the season with a broken foot. "

Those look great and look like a college. Maybe no one knows who it is, but that is the school's fault.

It's not just the "Barnes & Noble" employee. Too many people on this site make excuses for things that could be better. I went up to the Mean Green mania thing (for Mean Green Club members) at the beginning of August to picket up my season tickets. While I was in the team store I decided to ask a specific ticket office employee, and one who I worked with last year because they were supposedly a manager of some type (when they messed something up last year), because I wanted to get more info than from the random "Barnes & Noble employee". I asked this person about basketball season tickets. I was told they were not on sale yet because they were still doing renewals. I asked when they would be on sale or when the renewal period ended. I was told they did not know yet. I don't remember exactly now but either in that season ticket packet, or maybe later that week when I received printed info in the mail, it gave these exact dates. So the decision had been made at least a few weeks prior for it to be printed and mailed, and that information had not been passed on. Things can be better.

My hope is back after the bye week for UTSA. That's 9 1/2 weeks.

It's pretty hard to have a rival when you're bad for so long. Once you start playing for something that matters and thing denying that from the other, rivalries start to happen.

I mostly agree with @UNT90 at this point although the delivery is harsh. And those who freak out against him aren't hearing what he is saying to begin with. He'll say nothing is happening and so you point out some of the things that have happened and write him off as a crazy. Well saying nothing has happened isn't accurate because something is always happening. But the context of his nothing is happening is related to other things that many have complained about. The previous AD and staff treated most of us like we were the problem. Yes it's possible that as @GMG24 said with better leadership those same people are no longer the same but it's not likely. Look if you treat people a certain way, that's because that's in you to do that. You might act differently when a boss is looking but, too late we already know how you really feel. I don't know how many times I heard at a AD run event that we needed to step up and get people to come to games so this can get where we are going. I can't think of (maybe someone else can) of another business where you have an event to thank customers and then lecture them about doing more to make the business grow. It was annoying. It might be changing, but it will take time to know. So far it looks like, they are just spending more money which while great is only part of the overall experience. I get just as tired of all of the excuses many on here make for a poorly run office. So far, while stuff may be happening, it really hasn't affected me. Most of it seems the same as before except we are spending some money. I'll give one example, the event for Season tickets. It's on a Wednesday, and goes from 8am-8pm? What the heck is that. So everytime someone shows up that day to pick up a ticket, they are going to cheer. I guess they are trying but it just seems wierd and something the old AD would do. Plus it's a Wednesday. I can't get up to Denton very easily before 7-7-30 without taking time off and not really sure why I'd want to. Some of you in the wait and see are right about the they should do things right with the IPF and soccer/track stuff. Maybe they should have gotten this Season ticket event thing right before they tried it too.

Completely disagree with that. We've basically had that where the AD markets one type of branding (North Texas) and the school another (UNT). I think it was even mentioned in the consultant report. The school needs to get its act together and all push in the same direction.

No offense taken. Those huge teams you mentioned OU Texas LSU might not be coming to Denton, (although the rumors are LSU thought about it) but that wasn't really what I meant we needed on season tickets. We don't need Ohio State here so people are worried about a sellout so they have to buy season ticket. I just meant someone exciting/interesting that would help sell season tickets. It's just my opinion but I think Houston does very little to help sell season tickets. Almost all of your other examples (not Indiana) like Tech though would help sell season tickets just because they have increased in value. Not so much because of the worry of a sell out, just they are more attractive. I appreciate the ADs efforts though, since we didn't see that before, and I'm sure scheduling ain't easy, but that's why he gets the big bucks.

I still find this move a little underwhelming. Putting Houston on the schedule isn't going to sell season tickets, and selling tickets is our biggest problem. On the other hand, if Houston is still as good as they've been in two years, and we continue upward trajectory, this game will be fun. If the army series hadn't been canceled for Liberty, I'd like the overall changes more.

Actually... win, win, win, push but I like those odds :)

One of the saddest posts I've read on here.

Yes you can.

I like the fact that we were late, which caused someone to report it, which got UNT mentioned again and that we were buying out a contract. Free Publicity.

This is the reason I think yes. Everyone that knows of the school call it UNT.

YES a hundred times YES.