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“Autonomy Five”

“Autonomy Five” that’s all you need to know

Stanford. Hard to blame him.

2013 for sure.

Literally that is why people dedicate their lives to the study of something - to become experts so that they can lead in their fields. The reason this was originally referred to as the “novel coronovirus” until it was named was because it was new. So that means they did not fully understand it and have been improving their understanding of it along the way, hence guidelines and recommendations. But how were those guidelines developed? Through using what knowledge we already have about disease transmission and viruses. Did you take a high school science class? Because that should have taught you enough to get that when there is an illness you try to isolate the ill from the healthy. You mom taught you as a small child to cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough. That wasn’t simply manners, it was good public health practice. So yes there is plenty of proof these measures are effective. What is not proven is that outdoor temperature has anything to do with slowing the spread. It hit warm countries and those in the Southern Hemisphere like NZ and Australia. New Zealand has zero new cases for six days. They chose to go on strict lockdown and physical distancing as their strategy and it worked. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31097-7/fulltext Also there is no herd immunity yet. The Sweden model that people like to cite didn’t lead to sufficient herd immunity. A recent study showed about 7.3 percent of those in Stockholm had antibodies and models say it could be as high as 20 percent - but herd immunity requires in excess of 60-70 percent. And they ended with a high death rate. Look if you want full peer reviewed scientific proof of everything to know about this virus, you are going to be waiting a long time. Or you could just use common sense and the available information. If you don’t think sitting shoulder to shoulder with someone as you both exhale heavily (cheering, yelling) can transmit a disease then there really is no convincing you.

I saw it was coming but missed it.

You have proven yourself to either be lying or willfully ignorant repeatedly in these threads. Staying away from infected people is basically only way to keep from getting it currently. That and covering your mouth and nose to prevent exhaled droplets from getting into the air. This is basic stuff here and not really up for debate. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period. Spread happens when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, and droplets from their mouth or nose are launched into the air and land in the mouths or noses of people nearby. The droplets can also be inhaled into the lungs. Recent studies indicate that people who are infected but do not have symptoms likely also play a role in the spread of COVID-19. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-social-distancing-uk-cases-how-long-schools-public-transport-close-a9394916.html According to Public Health England, the coronavirus can be spread when people with it have close, sustained contact with others who are not infected. This typically means spending more than 15 minutes within two metres of an infected person, such as talking to someone for instance. https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-transmission-overview Experts believe the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads mainly from person to person. There are several ways this can happen: Droplets. When an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, droplets with the virus fly into the air from their nose or mouth. Anyone who is within 6 feet of that person can breathe those droplets into their lungs. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6493/860 Modeling studies (26) and experience from the Wuhan outbreak (2) indicate that critical care capacities even in high-income countries can be exceeded many times over if distancing measures are not implemented quickly or strongly enough. https://www.uchealth.com/en/media-room/covid-19/the-value-of-social-distancing “It’s all about minimizing the spread of a highly contagious virus,” said Dr. Fichtenbaum. “Social distancing is the concept of keeping away from people, and this typically means limiting contact with any other person. By slowing down the spread of COVID-19, we allow healthcare systems a chance to more readily care for patients.” COVID-19 is a new virus, so healthcare experts continue to learn how it spreads. Currently, it is understood that the virus mainly spreads from person to person through respiratory droplets produced by an infected person who coughs or sneezes. “If you have a pandemic, one strategy is to keep people away from each other so that the infection cannot be passed so easily from one person to another,” said Dr. Fichtenbaum. “Contagious diseases that are passed between persons usually are transmitted more easily when people are in close contact.” https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-social-distancing-and-self-quarantine Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H. , senior director of infection prevention at Johns Hopkins, helps clarify these concepts so you can understand better why they’re being recommended... Social distancing is deliberately increasing the physical space between people to avoid spreading illness. Staying at least six feet away from other people lessens your chances of catching COVID-19. Wear a cloth face covering where social distancing can’t be practiced, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission. The coronavirus pandemic is making everyone aware of handwashing and protecting others from coughs and sneezes. Along with those essential steps, practices such as social and physical distancing, and self-quarantine and isolation when appropriate can slow the rate of infection in a city, town or community. The pandemic can seem overwhelming, but in truth, every person can help slow down the spread of COVID-19.

I agree with both these assumptions.

That is a lie.

Wait I thought you said social distancing was not proven effective to prevent COViD.

I feel uncomfortable

And Liberty is getting millions in govt assistance...

Then USF and already transferring again:

Arrow is my guilty pleasure. Not a great show or acting but it takes my mind of real life for a while and all the female actors are easy on the eyes. Lots of shirtless scenes with the male lead for the ladies (and @Censored by Laurie)

I think we are mostly on the same page here. I think a Supreme Court Justice is one of the most important positions that protect our rights and American democracy. Much more important than a congressman - and we can get rid of a bad one of those. I hate that the appointment process for judges has become such a partisan shit show.

It happens, man! Done that myself, just wanted to make sure it was the tweet you meant.

Great show. My daughter is now addicted after I introduced her to it.

I have thoughts on how it will play out in November but I try not to comment too much on specific purely political happenings. I agree that things are way too divided. Normally crisis brings us together but this time it either widened the divides or at least makes them more evident.

Wilson also had some nice early classes. SL has shit early classes and won anyway. I want us at or near the top every year but Traylor will still have to get some Ws.

Actually when I think about what you said, I would be ok with the staffers not having hard core political leanings and just offering neutral advice and letting the political types choose from the best options.